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[doublemesh96]

Some of the things being said in here

It's in bad taste even for trolling. Lock this up

 

[dutchroyalt]

Now what happened to those people? You've listed names and left out their story. Most of them had everything taken away, became poor or sick, then Had to come back to God to gain it back Or walk away from their past life to follow God.

Matthew 6:24 ESV / 91 helpful votes

“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

James 5:1-6 ESV / 69 helpful votes

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. ...

Luke 18:25 ESV / 62 helpful votes

For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

Luke 12:33 ESV / 41 helpful votes

Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

Mark 12:41-44 ESV / 39 helpful votes

And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

1 Timothy 6:17 ESV / 37 helpful votes

As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy.

1 Timothy 6:10 ESV / 35 helpful votes

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Hebrews 13:5 ESV / 28 helpful votes

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Revelation 3:17 ESV / 26 helpful votes

For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.

1 Timothy 6:9 ESV / 24 helpful votes

But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.

James 1:11 ESV / 19 helpful votes

For the sun rises with its scorching heat and withers the grass; its flower falls, and its beauty perishes. So also will the rich man fade away in the midst of his pursuits.

Acts 20:35 ESV / 19 helpful votes

In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

Matthew 6:19-21 ESV / 19 helpful votes

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 6:24 ESV / 17 helpful votes

“But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.

2 Corinthians 9:7 ESV / 16 helpful votes

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

James 5:1 ESV / 15 helpful votes

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you.

1 Timothy 6:18 ESV / 15 helpful votes

They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,

Luke 6:20 ESV / 15 helpful votes

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 6:6-10 ESV / 14 helpful votes

Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

James 2:5 ESV / 13 helpful votes

Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?

Proverbs 19:17 ESV / 13 helpful votes

Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.

1 Peter 1:18-19 ESV / 12 helpful votes

Knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

Proverbs 30:8 ESV / 12 helpful votes

Remove far from me falsehood and lying; give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with the food that is needful for me,

Luke 6:20-21 ESV / 11 helpful votes

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. “Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you shall be satisfied. “Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh.

Ezekiel 7:19 ESV / 11 helpful votes

They cast their silver into the streets, and their gold is like an unclean thing. Their silver and gold are not able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord. They cannot satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it. For it was the stumbling block of their iniquity.

Proverbs 23:4-5 ESV / 11 helpful votes

Do not toil to acquire wealth; be discerning enough to desist. When your eyes light on it, it is gone, for suddenly it sprouts wings, flying like an eagle toward heaven.

1 Samuel 2:7 ESV / 11 helpful votes

The Lord makes poor and makes rich; he brings low and he exalts.

Leviticus 19:9-10 ESV / 11 helpful votes

“When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the Lord your God.

2 Corinthians 8:13-15 ESV / 10 helpful votes

For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, “Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack.”

2 Corinthians 8:9 ESV / 10 helpful votes

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.

Acts 2:44-45 ESV / 10 helpful votes

And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.





There's much more. Proved me wrong.......

But that still doesnt address the point statement i made.... Again name any other aspect avenue or realm of life in which you can claim/profess state you practice, perform adhere to...and outright defy and contridict your principles, and yet not be questioned solely on the premise of saying im not perfect... i tried, i want to but i cant, its hard, i gave it my all.

Again how is it not a contradiction to profess/claim attest to something, and turn around and perform a 180? How is that even honorable or respectable? How is that admirable? Why should it even be acknowledged, let alone praised and seen as something reputable?

 

[dutchroyalt]

PROVE ME WRONG.

Greed?? Greed is all OVER the bible. Who's salvation are you accountable for? Who do YOU have to save? Lable things all you want but the point of serving God is so that YOU can live forever. You give to God so YOU don't get punished. YOU seek forgiveness from sin so YOU get blessing. You fear punishment so you serve.

Sharing and caring and fu fu blah blah blah, is done for YOUR benefit. Christianity is an oxymoron within itself.

Look at this situation. People are giving this fraud money for what? To help the already rich dude? NO, for blessings. Who does that benifit (within their belife system)? THEM

Again, prove me wrong.

No they do it because they have over several years have been trained and conditioned to do so? Its in the same manner why vast majority blacks are christians.. Its not because they chose to be... Because when you make a choice you are CHOOSING between a option(s) ala favoring something over others/another and in most parts most blacks havent compared/contrast different options aka different religions in order to make a choice.

When there is only one, and no options.... You arent making a choice, you are adhering to and settling or coming to terms with accepting/acceptance..

Thats no different then slavery... they didnt chose to be slaves they became adaptive, conditioned, and eventually accepting of a life of slavery. All this for blessing etc... is nothing more then justification for the acceptance.. 

 

[blastercombo]

Bro I have NO clue why you're even addressing me as none of those statements were towards the topic you're even talking about.

 

[girlthatsblanco]

Same ol song and dance when it comes to discussing the Bible on NT. The ones discrediting the Bible generally argue with false assumptions and misinformation. Either they are ignorant to what the text reads or they just ignore it because they don't really want to accept the Bible in the first place. It blows my mind that people go to biased websites that argue against the Bible and just ride the wave without actually reading and studying the actual book for themselves. You will find equal amounts of sources in favor of the Bible as you will find opposed. Read it for yourself, then make a decision. Oddly a lot of Christians are ignorant to the actual text too. I'm all for having engaging conversations, but at least be knowledgeable on the subject or ask questions that want an actual answer and not just troll type post. Blastercombo comes into every religion thread makings claims that he thinks are facts. Sadly most of what he says is false concerning the Bible. I and many others have pointed out his misquotes, corrected his poor assumptions and given him context on verses he has misinterpreted. Almost always he never responds to the mistake that was made. Prime example is a page or two back with his "Bible is for poor people" rhetoric. It was addressed and proven false. His response like normal was to dismiss and Google search a lazy argument about slave masters and the Crusades that is copy and pasted from some website out to disprove the Bible or go back to some other false claim. My point is that you passionately post arguments on a subject that you have little understanding of and when anyone who is more knowledgeable than you on that subject responds you simply deflect. You don't want to know what the Bible says because you have made up in your mind that it simply just isn't for you. Which is fine. That is your choice, but time and time again your opinions and misunderstanding of the subject of the Bible that you spew as fact is debunked.

 

[blastercombo]

You've posted all that and said nothing. What does the bible say then? You want to talk about people being wrong yet dont provide the correct answer. That "copy paste" are passages IN THE BIBLE. Would you rather I make something up? Quote the bible concerning the "truth" of the topic. save the "you don't want to know", tell us.



Here's what you'll do. You'll throw up a "God loves all people" quote, and then I'll knock that down with a "but not gays" quote. Then you and the others will kinda just drift away till next time. Need proof? Look up the thread about Jesus.


Your "you don't want to know" babel has been used up. You hold the key to existence, life eternal, and truth yet you can't back it up with fact, logic, and reasoning? Laughable

I HAVE YET to be proven wrong. You still believe dinosaurs lived 2000 years ago.

 

[darthska]

Same ol song and dance when it comes to discussing the Bible on NT. The ones discrediting the Bible generally argue with false assumptions and misinformation. Either they are ignorant to what the text reads or they just ignore it because they don't really want to accept the Bible in the first place.

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

 

[doublemesh96]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

Testify!

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

I'd beg to differ. Modern day, its people are looked to as uncivilized if they do believe in something.

Today people mostly claim christianity, or islam or whatever else for reasons of heritage and culture...not because they personally think that atheists are evil.

Now you just trolling, bruh

My dude Google Christopher hitchens.

Additionally I remember that you're in Texas. Texas is "god" country so I probably assume that my statement seems a foreign concept there. But I know you're worldly enough to at least entertain the idea that in some parts of the world, and even the us...God doesn't exist, and some people view people who even believe in a god as stupid.

 

[Comparison Ford]

He totally should google Christopher Hitchens, because Christopher Hitchens was awesome.

 

[$tacy]

**** gotta be a joke

 

[girlthatsblanco]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

Well let's take Blastercombo for example. He made a claim that the Bible is written for a poor audience and most of the "main" characters were poor. 9 different examples of people in the Bible were given to him that were far from poor. Hence, what I stated before about ignorance of the subject matter. He responds by Googling "Bible verses on rich, poor and or money." Then copy and paste them. OK cool. The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation. They don't support his claim of the Bible being for a poor audience. Those verse don't condemn having money, but it condemns the ideas and practices of money having you. Those verses also donn't teach that being poor is pleasing to God. All throughout the Bible God gives people the desires of their heart. There's even portions in the Bible where God commands thr Hebrew prople to plunder and pillage their enemies during a war. So God is not against being rich. Like any Father, He finds joy in giving His kids His best especially when they are obedient to His commands Although, our focus shouldn't be on just getting stuff from God. That is what most of those verse that were posted are saying. God gives people wealth and riches to be a blessing to others. Not to store up for ourselves. That is how the gospel has spread around the world in many cases. Yes, violence and slavery have also help spread the gospel. No denying that, but the Bible doesn't teach to use those things to expand God's Kingdom. Money is simply a resource. God is our source. He's knows we need money to operate in this world. He created it. He just doesn't want people to forget where the money came from. That is the idea of what the Bible teaches on the subject of money. If Blastercombo also took the time to read the verses surrounding the scriptures he posted he should have a clear context of what he posted.

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

Don't worry about it there was more to the story. But I think listing the examples proves that you're wrong. 

Wherein you make another wrong statement (as highlighted). But like I said its a more complex discussion than you make it seem to be.

Listing examples of people prove.....

If there are multiple exceptions to your original premise, it means that your premise is either wrong or has to be qualified.

You neither qualified it or made allowance for it being wrong.

Again your rebuttal has even more errors. But you don't care because you want to be right, when you can't eem be right because you've completely underestimated the discussion.

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

It cuts both ways, for every "I don't know God will figure it out" Christian you have as many "Google copy paste" atheist bible scholars. I think the best way to really filter people's argument is appreciating their agenda eem before engaging.

As an example and case in point what some people are really mad about is whether or not dinosaurs existed 2000 years ago. What would be the point in dieting misinterpretationso of Scripture if what you're really mad about is dinosaurs.

 

[darthska]

The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation.

The problem with your problem is that you switched the subject. You said that you and him were discussing his claim that the Bible was written for a poor audience. But the very last line of the part that I quoted from you just now is switching the subject to whether or not money can buy salvation.

Can't stand when people switch topics when, "Oh yeah, good point" will do just fine.

There's even portions in the Bible where God commands thr Hebrew prople to plunder and pillage their enemies during a war.

Absolutely. Including killing all women and children, except for little virgin girls, which the god concept commands to be saved...

... for the men.

No twisting anything around. It's right in there.

God is our source.

Which is why, when you're sick, you simply do nothing, and just pray. Am I right? And then you're all better.

No.

God is your placebo. It makes you feel good feeling that something created the ENTIRE universe, but still wants a personal relationship with JUUUUUST you.

You feel better about the death of your loved ones if you feel that they are in the company of the creator of everything and everyone ever.

You need answers to mysteries of the universe, and it makes you feel better knowing that the questions aren't left unanswered; instead, for you, the answer is, "I don't know the answer. I just know it was God. That's how wonderful God is. "

Placebo.

In truth, I doubt you're aware of ANY of the Bible verses condoning slavery, rape, or sexism.

I am. I'm sure blaster is aware, too.

But do go on about how we don't know the Bible, how we're ignorant to it's words.

 

[darthska]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

It cuts both ways, for every "I don't know God will figure it out" Christian you have ad many "Google copy paste" atheist bible scholars. I think the best way to really filter people's argument is appreciating their agenda eem before engaging.

As an example and case in point what some people are really mad about is whether or not dinosaurs existed 2000 years ago. What would be the point in dieting misinterpretationso of Scripture if what you're really mad about is dinosaurs.

At least the Google Bible Scholars are copying and pasting the actual text being discussed, even if they only arrived at the text through a web search.

"I don't know, God will figure it out" belongs nowhere in a scholarly discussion, and contributes nothing.

 

[dutchroyalt]

At least the Google Bible Scholars are copying and pasting the actual text being discussed, even if they only arrived at the text through a web search.

"I don't know, God will figure it out" belongs nowhere in a scholarly discussion, and contributes nothing.

but to copy and paste something with no credence of proof and validity does what? proves what? Thats like saying santa is real and posting excerpts from rudolph the red nose reindeer.  

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

It cuts both ways, for every "I don't know God will figure it out" Christian you have ad many "Google copy paste" atheist bible scholars. I think the best way to really filter people's argument is appreciating their agenda eem before engaging.

As an example and case in point what some people are really mad about is whether or not dinosaurs existed 2000 years ago. What would be the point in dieting misinterpretationso of Scripture if what you're really mad about is dinosaurs.

At least the Google Bible Scholars are copying and pasting the actual text being discussed, even if they only arrived at the text through a web search.

"I don't know, God will figure it out" belongs nowhere in a scholarly discussion, and contributes nothing.

Which is more dangerous claiming ignorance or possibly misquoting misinterpreting a piece of text? Which error is more easily propagated?

Which is easier to distinguish ignorance or misinterpretation?

 

[darthska]

At least the Google Bible Scholars are copying and pasting the actual text being discussed, even if they only arrived at the text through a web search.

"I don't know, God will figure it out" belongs nowhere in a scholarly discussion, and contributes nothing.

but to copy and paste something with no credence of proof and validity does what? proves what? Thats like saying santa is real and posting excerpts from rudolph the red nose reindeer.

I get that the Bible had no credence, but you're addressing a completely different topic.

When the topic is "What Does The Bible Say?", quoting the Bible is perfectly fine, and more credible than "I don't know, I'm sure it's in there somewhere."

When the topic is something science-based as opposed to Bible-based, then like you said, quoting the Bible is likened to quoting Rudolph to prove Santa.

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

 

The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation.

The problem with your problem is that you switched the subject. You said that you and him were discussing his claim that the Bible was written for a poor audience. But the very last line of the part that I quoted from you just now is switching the subject to whether or not money can buy salvation.

Can't stand when people switch topics when, "Oh yeah, good point" will do just fine.

There's even portions in the Bible where God commands thr Hebrew prople to plunder and pillage their enemies during a war.

Absolutely. Including killing all women and children, except for little virgin girls, which the god concept commands to be saved...

... for the men.

No twisting anything around. It's right in there.

God is our source.

Which is why, when you're sick, you simply do nothing, and just pray. Am I right? And then you're all better.

No.

God is your placebo. It makes you feel good feeling that something created the ENTIRE universe, but still wants a personal relationship with JUUUUUST you.

You feel better about the death of your loved ones if you feel that they are in the company of the creator of everything and everyone ever.

You need answers to mysteries of the universe, and it makes you feel better knowing that the questions aren't left unanswered; instead, for you, the answer is, "I don't know the answer. I just know it was God. That's how wonderful God is.

"

Placebo.

In truth, I doubt you're aware of ANY of the Bible verses condoning slavery, rape, or sexism.

I am. I'm sure blaster is aware, too.

But do go on about how we don't know the Bible, how we're ignorant to it's words.

A lot of this is unfair.

I don't know, this goes back to my point about sussing out an agenda. You know nothing about this man yet you projected your experience of some christians who believe in "god as a pacebo" on him, you've gone ahead and projected these condescending assumption on him without truly knowing what he believes or why he believes it. You've quickly sided with blaster oblivious to wheter or not he really knows what he claims simply because you assume him to be against the bible.

He gave context to the verses that blaster posted by makingg this remark:

"The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation."

Yet you dismissed him by saying he was "twisting it", I really see no twist or even the possibility of a twist in that statement. Maybe he was wrong in making assumptions about blaster, but at least give him credit for responding to what blaster posted...and attempt to see whether there is any cogent point in his response.

 

[darthska]

Well that is just simply not the truth.

At all.

Ignorant to what it says? Every single person I've seen discredit the Bible on here knows the Bible more than the people who are loyal to it.

No, they don't accept it, because they are aware of what it says more than the people who are just told what it says.

It cuts both ways, for every "I don't know God will figure it out" Christian you have ad many "Google copy paste" atheist bible scholars. I think the best way to really filter people's argument is appreciating their agenda eem before engaging.

As an example and case in point what some people are really mad about is whether or not dinosaurs existed 2000 years ago. What would be the point in dieting misinterpretationso of Scripture if what you're really mad about is dinosaurs.

At least the Google Bible Scholars are copying and pasting the actual text being discussed, even if they only arrived at the text through a web search.

"I don't know, God will figure it out" belongs nowhere in a scholarly discussion, and contributes nothing.

Which is more dangerous claiming ignorance or possibly misquoting misinterpreting a piece of text? Which error is more easily propagated?

Which is easier to distinguish ignorance or misinterpretation?

If a debate is simply, "What does the Bible say about it?", and someone Google copies an actual verse that actually states what the Bible actually said... no interpretation, just plain ol' text... and someone else claims "I don't know what the Bible says on that one. I just know God's doesn't support it," then the Google Bible Scholar has argued within the confines of a healthy debate. Call it misinterpretation, but as long as the actual text in question is being used, there's at least substance to the reply.

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

 If a debate is simply, "What does the Bible say about it?", and someone Google copies an actual verse that actually states what the Bible actually said... no interpretation, just plain ol' text... and someone else claims "I don't know what the Bible says on that one. I just know God's doesn't support it," then the Google Bible Scholar has argued within the confines of a healthy debate. Call it misinterpretation, but as long as the actual text in question is being used, there's at least substance to the reply.

but he hasn't simply quoted it, he's quoted it and given his interpretation of it, When a counter context is provided using the same scriptures you've thrown your hands up and claimed a twisting has occured.

 

[darthska]

 

The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation.

The problem with your problem is that you switched the subject. You said that you and him were discussing his claim that the Bible was written for a poor audience. But the very last line of the part that I quoted from you just now is switching the subject to whether or not money can buy salvation.


Can't stand when people switch topics when, "Oh yeah, good point" will do just fine.

There's even portions in the Bible where God commands thr Hebrew prople to plunder and pillage their enemies during a war.

Absolutely. Including killing all women and children, except for little virgin girls, which the god concept commands to be saved...


... for the men.


No twisting anything around. It's right in there.

God is our source.

Which is why, when you're sick, you simply do nothing, and just pray. Am I right? And then you're all better.


No.


God is your placebo. It makes you feel good feeling that something created the ENTIRE universe, but still wants a personal relationship with JUUUUUST you.


You feel better about the death of your loved ones if you feel that they are in the company of the creator of everything and everyone ever.


You need answers to mysteries of the universe, and it makes you feel better knowing that the questions aren't left unanswered; instead, for you, the answer is, "I don't know the answer. I just know it was God. That's how wonderful God is. "


Placebo.


In truth, I doubt you're aware of ANY of the Bible verses condoning slavery, rape, or sexism.


I am. I'm sure blaster is aware, too.


But do go on about how we don't know the Bible, how we're ignorant to it's words.

A lot of this is unfair.

I don't know, this goes back to my point about sussing out an agenda. You know nothing about this man yet you projected your experience of some christians who believe in "god as a pacebo" on him, you've gone ahead and projected these condescending assumption on him without truly knowing what he believes or why he believes it. You've quickly sided with blaster oblivious to wheter or not he really knows what he claims simply because you assume him to be against the bible.


He gave context to the verses that blaster posted by makingg this remark:
"The problem is that, I'm positive he didn't read all of them because most of them are about how money can not buy you salvation."

Yet you dismissed him by saying he was "twisting it", I really see no twist or even the possibility of a twist in that statement. Maybe he was wrong in making assumptions about blaster, but at least give him credit for responding to what blaster posted...and attempt to see whether there is any cogent point in his response.

You're assuming that I know nothing about him, first off.

Second, I'm not siding with blaster; I'm supporting his rebuttal. HUGE difference.

Third, you point out how wrong it was for me to assume, then say "Maybe he was wrong in making assumptions about blaster." Inconsistent, at best. This leads me to believe your issue isn't with unfairness, but with my stance.

 

[darthska]

 
If a debate is simply, "What does the Bible say about it?", and someone Google copies an actual verse that actually states what the Bible actually said... no interpretation, just plain ol' text... and someone else claims "I don't know what the Bible says on that one. I just know God's doesn't support it," then the Google Bible Scholar has argued within the confines of a healthy debate. Call it misinterpretation, but as long as the actual text in question is being used, there's at least substance to the reply.

but he hasn't simply quoted it, he's quoted it and given his interpretation of it, When a counter context is provided using the same scriptures you've thrown your hands up and claimed a twisting has occured.

I was talking vaguely. Clearly, you're referencing something specific. For the sake of clarity, give me a specific you're referencing.

 

[dutchroyalt]

I get that the Bible had no credence, but you're addressing a completely different topic.

When the topic is "What Does The Bible Say?", quoting the Bible is perfectly fine, and more credible than "I don't know, I'm sure it's in there somewhere."

When the topic is something science-based as opposed to Bible-based, then like you said, quoting the Bible is likened to quoting Rudolph to prove Santa.

but you arent quoting the bible you are quoting a variation, rendition of a book. So tbh its not quoting...... its like using hearsay, from someone who heard from someone who based things on what they think/believe was said....

Again like i said why does religion get a pass.... hell we dont even give news reporters/casters this leeway about frivolous, unimportant stories... yet we just overlook something as so called important as religion.... ish is comical to say the least.