Pitcher or QB?

[mrmoneyindabank]

My boy seems to think that Pitchers have stronger arms than Quarterbacks because of the velocity of an average MLB pitch being btwn 60-90mph. I'm trying totell him that the weight if a football, the distance that they are being thrown and size all make up for the lack of speed and the Quarterback really have thebetter arms. What say you NT?

 

[darth dnzy]

--A pitcher is more about precision rather than strength.
--QB would need both precision and strength for deep passes.
--But pitching is hard as hell though. I've tried it. In the terms of what you are talkin about though, I choose QB.

 

[craftsy21]

I'd take a pitcher, but a strong arm is a strong arm at the end of the day.

 

[651akathepaul]

You can't answer that question. It's different from player to player.

 

[durden7]

Its a pitcher. Its not even close.

 

[fenixconnexion.]

i'd say pitcher, but then again i've never quarterbacked before so i might be biased

 

[kb8sandiego]

Apples and oranges.

 

[jplikejayz]

i saw this one show before where they compared the velocities of a baseball thrown by a pitcher and a football thrown by a qb. the baseball's velocity cameout to be around 95mph while the football was clocked at over 100+mph i believe. i don't quite remember the name of the show, perhaps someone else has seenit and can chime in?

 

[dland24]

This is purely a guess......but due to the fact that you see way more pitchers with arm problems than quarterbacks with arm problems, I would say that apitcher needs to have better arms. The fact that you see hardly any QBs with arm problems leads me to believe that throwing a football requires less strengthand is less stressful on your arm.



This is a complete guess though.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

Apples and oranges.

Yea, really no way to settle this... although i have heard analysts compare the speed of a football to what itd convert to in baseball i think...i cant remember specifically though.

This is purely a guess......but due to the fact that you see way more pitchers with arm problems than quarterbacks with arm problems, I would say that a pitcher needs to have better arms. The fact that you see hardly any QBs with arm problems leads me to believe that throwing a football requires less strength and is less stressful on your arm.

No way, Pitchers routinely go 80-90+ pitches in an outting, pitching every 5 days in a LONG season (someone clear up for me how many games a starting pitcherthrows in a full season)

a QB throws 30ish times in a football game and plays in a 16 game regular season... not to mention that they dont get to stand up on a mound and push off therubber with all the velocity they can possibly put into a pitch every time.

Arm injuries is NOT the way to compare these two, not saying there is a good way to do it but this is not it...

 

[JD617]

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. They both have incredibly strong arms, they're just different at what they do.

 

[JD617]

No way, Pitchers routinely go 80-90+ pitches in an outting, pitching every 5 days in a LONG season (someone clear up for me how many games a starting pitcher throws in a full season)
If they stay healthy for the whole year, 30-35.

 

[dland24]

Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11

Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

Apples and oranges.

Yea, really no way to settle this... although i have heard analysts compare the speed of a football to what itd convert to in baseball i think... i cant remember specifically though.

This is purely a guess......but due to the fact that you see way more pitchers with arm problems than quarterbacks with arm problems, I would say that a pitcher needs to have better arms. The fact that you see hardly any QBs with arm problems leads me to believe that throwing a football requires less strength and is less stressful on your arm.

No way, Pitchers routinely go 80-90+ pitches in an outting, pitching every 5 days in a LONG season (someone clear up for me how many games a starting pitcher throws in a full season)

a QB throws 30ish times in a football game and plays in a 16 game regular season... not to mention that they dont get to stand up on a mound and push off the rubber with all the velocity they can possibly put into a pitch every time.

Arm injuries is NOT the way to compare these two, not saying there is a good way to do it but this is not it...



Fair enough......but while you rebutted my reasoning, you actually gave a reason which agrees with my answer. A pitcher throws anywhere from 80-110 pitches agame, every 5 days, for 162 games. A quarterback throws the ball 25-40 times a game, once a week, for 16-19 weeks. Using this logic, it would be safe to saya pitcher needs more arm strength and conditioning to be able to complete a full season than a quarterback does.

 

[mrmoneyindabank]

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul

You can't answer that question. It's different from player to player.

Its not a player to player comparison. Which is harder in your opinion? Throwing a football or throwing a baseball.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

Ehhh i dunno if you can say that, because if you say QBs dont generally have arm problems at their current schedule then how can you tell me that they wouldntbe better or the same as a pitcher if they had longer seasons/ threw more at max velocity?

and this is more an argument of durability at this point where it started with who has the stronger arm in terms of power.

 

[mrmoneyindabank]

Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11

Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

Apples and oranges.

Yea, really no way to settle this... although i have heard analysts compare the speed of a football to what itd convert to in baseball i think... i cant remember specifically though.

This is purely a guess......but due to the fact that you see way more pitchers with arm problems than quarterbacks with arm problems, I would say that a pitcher needs to have better arms. The fact that you see hardly any QBs with arm problems leads me to believe that throwing a football requires less strength and is less stressful on your arm.

No way, Pitchers routinely go 80-90+ pitches in an outting, pitching every 5 days in a LONG season (someone clear up for me how many games a starting pitcher throws in a full season)

a QB throws 30ish times in a football game and plays in a 16 game regular season... not to mention that they dont get to stand up on a mound and push off the rubber with all the velocity they can possibly put into a pitch every time.

Arm injuries is NOT the way to compare these two, not saying there is a good way to do it but this is not it...

Fair enough......but while you rebutted my reasoning, you actually gave a reason which agrees with my answer. A pitcher throws anywhere from 80-110 pitches a game, every 5 days, for 162 games. A quarterback throws the ball 25-40 times a game, once a week, for 16-19 weeks. Using this logic, it would be safe to say a pitcher needs more arm strength and conditioning to be able to complete a full season than a quarterback does.


See I infer something different from the information. Myy reasoning tells me that because throwing a football is that much more stressfull on the armQB's throw much less than Pitcher. The object is to keep your players healthly so it would make sense that the NFL season is short because it is moretaxing on the body. Same goes for the # of QB passes as opposed to pitches.

 

[inno21]

Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11

Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

Apples and oranges.

Yea, really no way to settle this... although i have heard analysts compare the speed of a football to what itd convert to in baseball i think... i cant remember specifically though.

This is purely a guess......but due to the fact that you see way more pitchers with arm problems than quarterbacks with arm problems, I would say that a pitcher needs to have better arms. The fact that you see hardly any QBs with arm problems leads me to believe that throwing a football requires less strength and is less stressful on your arm.

No way, Pitchers routinely go 80-90+ pitches in an outting, pitching every 5 days in a LONG season (someone clear up for me how many games a starting pitcher throws in a full season)

a QB throws 30ish times in a football game and plays in a 16 game regular season... not to mention that they dont get to stand up on a mound and push off the rubber with all the velocity they can possibly put into a pitch every time.

Arm injuries is NOT the way to compare these two, not saying there is a good way to do it but this is not it...

Fair enough......but while you rebutted my reasoning, you actually gave a reason which agrees with my answer. A pitcher throws anywhere from 80-110 pitches a game, every 5 days, for 162 games. A quarterback throws the ball 25-40 times a game, once a week, for 16-19 weeks. Using this logic, it would be safe to say a pitcher needs more arm strength and conditioning to be able to complete a full season than a quarterback does.
Don't Qbs also practice????..... These guys have training camp aswell, where they throw everyday for atleast 3-4 weeks
In order to truly compare this you will need to take everything into consideration

 

[JD617]

See I infer something different from the information. Myy reasoning tells me that because throwing a football is that much more stressfull on the arm QB's throw much less than Pitcher. The object is to keep your players healthly so it would make sense that the NFL season is short because it is more taxing on the body. Same goes for the # of QB passes as opposed to pitches.
The reason football is more taxing isn't because throwing a football is more stressful on the QBs' arms though. It's more taxingbecause guys are getting drilled into the ground on every play.

 

[dathbgboy]

Gotta go w/ QB, throwin a ball that is heavier than a baseball by at least 10oz W/ equipment on while dodgin defenders. Not even debatable

 

[airthompson]

Pitcher easily.

 

[airthompson]

Pitcher easily.

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

just my 2 cents, but i've known some pitchers in high school who also played QB in football. They were "power pitchers" in baseball, but itseemed their arm stood out more in football.

 

[jpzx]

Both sides have legitimate arguments.

 

[starkyl0ve]

Originally Posted by MrMoneyInDaBank

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul

You can't answer that question. It's different from player to player.

Its not a player to player comparison. Which is harder in your opinion? Throwing a football or throwing a baseball.

How are you gonna say it's not a player to player comparison and then go on to ask his personal comparative viewpoint, in this hypotheticalsituation he's a player.

Anyway, I had a live arm on the mound and I could always throw a football with velocity. Throwing a baseball is WAY easier for me. The lack of size anddensity makes it way easier to throw with more velocity.

 

[pohzoko]

It's hard to decide but I'd say pitcher.