Pumping Iron

[iiceman83]

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Agree 100%

And Arnold's build > Coleman/Cutler/all the recent guys IMO, they look like +#*@, at some point aesthetics > pure size. Nobody should 5'9'' walking around at like 320 in the offseason.

I disagree. Its called the offseason for a reason. Pack on as much mass a possible. To say no one should be that weight in the offseason is nonsense IMO. Lovepumping iron...wish they made bodybuilding docs like this again. But this country is too ignorant about steroids.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by IICEMAN83

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Agree 100%

And Arnold's build > Coleman/Cutler/all the recent guys IMO, they look like +#*@, at some point aesthetics > pure size. Nobody should 5'9'' walking around at like 320 in the offseason.

I disagree. Its called the offseason for a reason. Pack on as much mass a possible. To say no one should be that weight in the offseason is nonsense IMO. Love pumping iron...wish they made bodybuilding docs like this again. But this country is too ignorant about steroids.

I don't know man, Ronnie and the rest of the top current bbers sure have mass but their physiques just dont look all that good compared to Arnold's.Especially the "hgh gut" they all tend to have.

Yo IICEMAN check out bigger, faster, stronger- haven't seen it but it's a recent doc on steroid use/users, got good reviews.

 

[chicagos finest 23]

You have to realize that Body Building was not even popular back then and there was lack of supplements. Ronnie has that advantage of taking better and moreadvanced supplements.

 

[iiceman83]

Lol....thats a lame attempt posting "hgh" gut as away to point out your physique preference.
I can post pics of arnold that are unflattering but why?

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by Chicagos Finest 23

You have to realize that Body Building was not even popular back then and there was lack of supplements. Ronnie has that advantage of taking better and more advanced supplements.

Arnolds physique still looks more impressive. I guess I thought Arnolds quads were small becaue I'm used to seeing those bloated ones thatRonnie has. Arnolds joints look mad chiseled.

 

[11wordisbond]

Def a classic movie. You should watch the extra scenes as well. Dude admits to taking steroids and "inhaling" some trees.

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by IICEMAN83

Lol....thats a lame attempt posting "hgh" gut as away to point out your physique preference.
I can post pics of arnold that are unflattering but why?

?

that's from every angle dude and he looks to be at comp weight too.

i mean obviously most people in the bb community prefer ronnie/cutler/etc.'s builds, that's why they're winning mr olympia and nobody arnold'ssize is sniffing the stage.

but IMO arnold looks better.

 

[cidman911]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0637704/

Serge Nubret: Looks like I can take you.
Arnold Schwarzenegger: Heh heh, yeah, keep looking.

 

[iiceman83]

Joe cam....

But why not post pics of ronnie at his best????
Why post his most unflattering pics to point out ur phsyique prefrence when you know ronnie does not look like that all the time. Def saw bigger, faster,stronger. Makes me mad how ignorant this and other contries are about juice. But im glad steroids arent over the counter Cause it can F U up. Its the lies ihave an issue about

 

[al audi]

Iceman I don't agree an I can name current fave of mine right now who doesn't agree with you either. Silvio Samuel, he doesn't get sloppy likeother pros in the off season, I will find a quote to post back in here later. Guy is a beast also.

 

[chicagos finest 23]

Post a pic of Frank Zane vacuum pose and compare to new body builders. Most New body builder are bloated to even try to do that

 

[al audi]

Joe Cam I agree with you again 100%, now a days u see these crazy bloated muscle guts. To each their own, but Arnold era>New era.
Ice I can respect your opinion, just 2 different views.

 

[iiceman83]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Iceman I don't agree an I can name current fave of mine right now who doesn't agree with you either. Silvio Samuel, he doesn't get sloppy like other pros in the off season, I will find a quote to post back in here later. Guy is a beast also.

I know who silvio is. But how much improvements have he made over the years as a pro Compared to those who pack it on in the offseason? But also note thatgenetics and "supplments" play a role in how a bber looks in the offseason as well. And since when pros are being judged in the offseason??? Isntthat what the contest is for?

 

[iiceman83]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

Joe Cam I agree with you again 100%, now a days u see these crazy bloated muscle guts. To each their own, but Arnold era>New era.
Ice I can respect your opinion, just 2 different views.

no prob... Everyone is different. I just dont like when ppl discredit others. Those who dont know who coleman is, now thinks hes a big gut bloat ball. But hewas never like that before.

 

[al audi]

Again...., 2 different views again, I believe Silvio has made improvements. Of course other factors come into play as you stated. Who is ur fave in the BB gameright now if I may ask? O an btw don't get me wrong there are a like of pros I like these days.

 

[joseph camel jr]

from a bb perspective coleman is obviously an improvement from arnold, the sport has progressed since then. of course. if i was a judge at a contest of courseid put coleman over arnold. but id rather look like arnold.

and i have a huge amount of respect for ronnie for a numer of reasons. he doesn't have my fav build but he's my fav modern bb-er.

with that said, all i was trying to say was that to me, arnold's build is more aesthetically pleasing than any of the newer guys. i'm not discreditinghim or anything like that. if i say i like jordan's game better than lebron's i'm not trying to discredit lebron in any way, just stating apreference.

 

[al audi]

Joe Cam youre my kinda guy nh..........again with the point made.

"I don't really have an offseason break like a lot of people. I live very clean year-round and only have to lose four to six pounds at contest time, so there is very little stress and I am able to keep in shape for contest or appearances all year."-Silvio Samuel


To each their own but I like how this guy thinks.

as you know also he was the 2009 Ironman Pro winner, so he gotta be doing something right.

 

[iiceman83]

Joe cam...
Since were talking aesthetically pleasing, Arnold had major flaws.
His upper body completelty over shadowed his lower body. Arnold had no legs besides calves!!! His shoulders were far from proportionate to his quads.
As far as aesthetics, 97 or 98 Ronnie > Arnold

Also note that bodybuilding is also about illusion which the older bbers were masters of. Bet you didnt know Arnold had a large waist!! He said it himself. Iwould post it but im on the iphone.




Al Audi...

This is what i get from what silvio said.
He's obviously talking about diet. St

 

[panaricanretro]

I know who silvio is. But how much improvements have he made over the years as a pro Compared to those who pack it on in the offseason? But also note that genetics and "supplments" play a role in how a bber looks in the offseason as well. And since when pros are being judged in the offseason??? Isnt that what the contest is for?
So are you saying Silvio didn't make much improvement? I don't know about that. He definitely got a little bit wider, but his quads gotserious. He used to have big, but completely undefined quads, and now they have grooves going all the way through.

I think with alot of new drugs coming out in the late 80's and early 90's, you started seeing guys going up on stage looking super-human and extremelyripped at the same time, and that kind of changed things, so now there's this different standard and a pressure to be bigger than everybody else whilestill having a perfectly balanced physique. Arnold's physique wasn't perfect by industry standards, but he new how to accentuate his strong points andhide his flaws probably better than anybody I've ever seen.

 

[iiceman83]

F'n iphone.....
Anyway

He was talking about diet. Staying or living clean is the bodybuilding world means eating clean.
but just because ur bulking doesnt mean you cant eat clean.
Silvio does have a great physique....my current fav right now is Heath. Was planning on attending the O this year, but since Ronnies not competeting till next,ill wait.

Either way, glad to see fans of the sport dispite anyones preference

 

[iiceman83]

PanaRican...
I said compared to those who "pack it on"

 

[nationaltruckerdave]

Originally Posted by JayPesoz

this dude used to cum everywhere

 

[al audi]

Pana good points, i can dig it

Ice........heath i can respect that.

btw i like this discussion on NT lol.

 

[richkarlmarx]

the scene where he's talking about coming is too good

 

[joseph camel jr]

Originally Posted by Al Audi

btw i like this discussion on NT lol.

yup