R.I.P. Alton Sterling..Shot by BRPD..Point Blank, While Restrained.

[hennessy]

Just got this email from Security/OPSEC. Gonna be A LOT of protests tomorrow. Be smart/safe if you are planning on attending any of these.

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[hand2handking]

so they letting you know in advance they going to be shootin protesters

 

[dhart48]

"That is amazing to hear on this network."

 

[rafabio]

So much incoherent babbling and cross-talk. Cable news "debates"

 

[deleted]

What does knowledge of truth mean?

 

[RustyShackleford]

What does knowledge of truth mean?

He is going to give a flowery answer, but famb believes in the natural law philosophy. And uses it to adovacate for people moving towards an extreme libertarian and/or anarchist society. This society will work once everyone buys into the natural law philosophy, and everyone will buy in because it is fact.

Natural law believes their philosophy is the absolute truth, so if you don't accept it your denying yourself the truth.

 

[doublemesh96]

What does knowledge of truth mean?

It means exactly what it says. Knowledge of truth. I don't know how that's hard to understand?

Rusty this is not your economics class. We're talking about cops murdering people and you wanna have a debate about the future of the economy.

 

[deleted]

Surely you realize that it's a very vague description for someone like myself who is totally ignorant to what that philosophy entails. But I guess I'm too stupid to get it. Oh well.

I see they're still trying to drum up Alton Sterling's criminal record as if it validates his murder

 

[doublemesh96]

Surely you realize that it's a very vague description for someone like myself who is totally ignorant to what that philosophy entails. But I guess I'm too stupid to get it. Oh well.

I see they're still trying to drum up Alton Sterling's criminal record as if it validates his murder

I didnt say you were too stupid to get anything? I can't put it any simpler than that, It's having knowledge of truth = knowing the truth about something. Natural Law is an ancient science more so than a philosophy in the sense that it is exact and immutable. but you don't have to have a prerequisite understanding of it to grasp that one point. The notion that truth can never be known or understood is invalid. That's a solipsistic view that's not conducive to growth.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What does knowledge of truth mean?

It means exactly what it says. Knowledge of truth. I don't know how that's hard to understand?

Rusty this is not your economics class. We're talking about cops murdering people and you wanna have a debate about the future of the economy.

There are legit holes in your philosophies. The natural law stuff is whether, believe that you want, I'm not gonna knock you for that. But you're using it as a shield for you advocating for anarchism.I ask how the country will function, and you talking in circles. Now add to that, you're trying to guilt trip me with his false narrative that I just want to deflect off of cops targeting black people.

I have issues with you proposals because I believe they are some horrible ideas for helping the black community, and very short sighted. Natural law isn't going to protect black people from white supremacist and race soldiers.

Don't blanket call people scared when you can't even answer basic question about the society you say we desperately have to move to will function. I advocate for a lot of social and economic policies on NT that I believe will help black folk, especially social democracy, but you will also catch me saying it is not some cure all.

I'm not going just accepting your "truth" without questioning it, that would make be a sheep.

 

[Air Pope]

Hopefully everyone's safe at those protests today.

 

[cashbanks]

Bruh thinks the earth might be flat I don't know why anyone still going back and forth with buddy

 

[doublemesh96]

Bruh thinks the earth might be flat I don't know why anyone still going back and forth with buddy

I know u not talking about me Please quote me where I said that? Oh My bad you can't cuz u just pulled that out your ***. Stop lying ban always making **** up taking cheap shots from the sidelines like the ho cake that you are

 

[cashbanks]

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Chill bruh I wasn't comin at u. U actually posted details on why u believe it's round that's all I was lookin for. I was addressing those who seem to be angered by the mere notion of something other than what were all supposed to believe. And for the record I don't personally believe it's flat nor do I completely dismiss the notion that it is. I just found the subject intriguing is all. And to those talking about Antarctica it took me less than 5 mins on google to find out the areas that are off limits.

You're crazy and a liar.

 

[doublemesh96]

I also said that I subscribe to the belief that it's round multiple times in the same thread so try again I'm not gonna derail this thread that happens to be a serious subject with some bull**** so if you wanna have the debate on that particular subject we can have it in that thread

 

[cashbanks]

Nah coward i thought i made it up?

Why don't you post some more of those videos about how gravity isn't real so everyone can see what an idiot you really are?

Gravity issue addressed

 

[cashbanks]

 

[cashbanks]

Yo someone embed this for me please I'll rep u

 

[sonoftony]

"That is amazing to hear on this network."

get em DL

 

[doublemesh96]

I posted videos to be discussed I never once anywhere made the claim that I support the ideas. You trying real hard tho I applaud the effort

 

[cashbanks]

You started the thread, argued with anyone who dismissed it as the garbage it is, posted multiple videos supporting the idea, accused nasa of hiding "something" and dismissed every photo of a round earth as propaganda, and then pouted and change the thread title when you finally gathered nobody took you serious [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]129300[/emoji]

 

[cashbanks]

I'm not gonna derail the thread any further tho, because you being a liar and an idiot has nothing to do with this man being murdered by police.

 

[doublemesh96]

so because I have the ability to entertain and discuss an idea without accepting it im an idiot? whos the one making assumptions left and right putting words in people's mouth? You've added zero substance to this thread all you've done is take shots, reach, lie, assume and be a hypocrite. But you don't want to derail the thread right FOH buddy lol

 

[cashbanks]

Nobody put words in your mouth i'm quoting posts YOU made.

Stop derailing the thread with more of your nonsense , if you want to continue discussing you being a liar and a fool shoot me a pm and i'll ignore it

 

[paulwest1985]

Here we go again 

 Justice Department will not charge Baton Rouge officers in fatal shooting of Alton Sterling

The Justice Department has decided not to bring charges against the officers involved in the death of Alton Sterling, whose videotaped shooting by police in Baton Rouge last summer prompted unrest across the city, and is planning to reveal in the next 24 hours that it has closed the probe, according to four people familiar with the matter.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Sterling family had yet to be informed by the Justice Department of the decision, and it is unclear how and when the department will announce its findings.

“We have not heard nor received an update and are unaware of any charges that may or may not be filed,” said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the Sterling family’s attorneys. “We have not received word, nor has the family been given any notice of upcoming updates regarding this case.”

The case will be the first time under Attorney General Jeff Sessions that the department has publicly declined to prosecute officers investigated for possible wrongdoing in a high-profile case, and officials in Baton Rouge have been girding for possible reaction there.

Sterling’s death last summer sparked tense protests across the city. President Barack Obama weighed in on the matter then, declaring his confidence in the Justice Department probe and remarking, “we have seen tragedies like this too many times.”

The incident came the day before a police officer in Minnesota gunned down school cafeteria manager Philando Castile during a traffic stop that was broadcast on Facebook, and in the same week that a black man upset by police and out to kill white people gunned down five officers in Dallas. A little more than a week later, another gunman targeting police shot and killed three officers in Baton Rouge.

By the police account, officers Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake saw Sterling, 37, outside a convenience store in July after it was reported that a man had threatened someone there with a gun. Sterling, who was selling CDs outside the store, fit the description of that man, according to a search warrant affidavit in the case.

A video  of the shooting shows Sterling lying on his back with two officers on top of him. One of the officers appears to yell, “He’s got a gun!,” and then shots ring out. A detective wrote in the search warrant affidavit that officers had observed the butt of a gun in Sterling’s front pants pocket. At issue in the investigation was whether Sterling was reaching for the weapon, as officers claimed, when he was shot and killed.

Local police and city officials have said this week that they believed a decision was imminent, but they and representatives for Sterling’s family said they had not been told when an announcement from the Justice Department was coming. Some local schools have sent notes to parents informing them of action plans in case of major protests, and several local lawmakers have publicly called on the Justice Department to end the suspense.

“The Department of Justice’s failure to communicate with the community has created angst and nervousness, and I fear carries the potential for increased tension between the community and law enforcement,” Rep. Cedric L. Richmond (D-La.), whose congressional district includes part of Baton Rouge, wrote in a letter to Sessions on Friday. “It is inappropriate and against the interests of public safety . . . to allow this level of uncertainty to continue.”

Substantiating federal civil rights charges is extraordinarily difficult, requiring prosecutors to present evidence that might speak to an officer’s intent at the time of the incident. Even in the Obama administration, federal prosecutors declined to bring such charges in high-profile incidents.

In the case of Darren Wilson, the white police officer who shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., in 2014, the Justice Department found there was “no evidence upon which prosecutors can rely to disprove Wilson’s stated subjective belief that he feared for his safety.”

Investigators reached a similar conclusion in the fatal 2015 shooting of Jamar Clark in Minneapolis, concluding that they could not prove “the use of force was objectively unreasonable based on all of the surrounding circumstances.”

Civil liberties advocates fear, though, that the Justice Department under Sessions and President Trump might be even more reluctant to prosecute alleged wrongdoing by police.

Trump has cast himself a pro-law enforcement president, and Sessions had previously taken aim at broader police reforms. Last month, Sessions ordered the Justice Department to review the court-mandated reform agreements  it has with troubled police departments across the country, and Sessions has said he is worried that such agreements might bar aggressive police tactics.

Sessions also has — unlike previous the attorney general, Loretta E. Lynch — offered a tacit endorsement of what’s known as the “Ferguson effect,”  which refers to the contested idea that police might be afraid to get out of their cars and enforce the law for fear of ending up on a viral video.

Sessions had, though, seemed to distinguish prosecuting individual officers  from imposing sweeping reform agreements on departments. He said last month that while such cases were “usually easier to prosecute in state court,” he did not feel that they chilled good policing, nor would he hesitate to involve the Justice Department when it was appropriate to do so.

The Justice Department on Wednesday reached an agreement with former North Charleston police officer Michael Slager to plead guilty to a federal civil rights charge in the shooting death of Walter Scott, an unarmed black motorist who was shot in the back as he ran away from a traffic stop. His killing, like Sterling’s was caught on video.

The Justice Department under Sessions still has a major investigation of possible police misconduct in the case of 43-year-old Eric Garner, who died after he was taken to the ground and put in an apparent chokehold by New York City police in 2014. That incident — like Sterling’s death — was caught on video and prompted outrage across the country.

The case was the subject of a vigorous debate  under previous Lynch, who decided only at the end of her tenure to allow prosecutors to move forward and again present evidence to a grand jury. The timing of her decision effectively left the matter to Sessions, who last month declined to comment on what he might do.