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The hell y'all talkin bout?
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The hell y'all talkin bout?
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meanwhile my white professors teach me about all the atrocities whites have committed to mankind and every race of people including themselves.
this can be considered racist.
"People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that."
Discrimination, ignorance, racial bias and hatred knows no color. NT is a prime example of this.
Anton: White supremacists are a-holes, other races also exhibit similar qualities except at this point in time white people are in power. After the next shift of power another a-hole imperialist monster will rear its head perpetuating the cycle of human hatred and divide.
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antonlavey
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meanwhile my white professors teach me about all the atrocities whites have committed to mankind and every race of people including themselves.
this can be considered racist.
"People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that."
Discrimination, ignorance, racial bias and hatred knows no color. NT is a prime example of this.
Anton: White supremacists are a-holes, other races also exhibit similar qualities except at this point in time white people are in power. After the next shift of power another a-hole imperialist monster will rear its head perpetuating the cycle of human hatred and divide.
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Thats not racismOriginally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
white people are the ones who started racism how can they experience it
What they are experiencing is the backlash of the racism they started
That's like saying, white people invented guns and only they can use it to harm others. White people may have invented "racism", but this has created a reality where other "races" make judgements based on race....no one is immune to it. Black can be racist against Asians and vice versa.
White people didn't invent xenophobia/ hatred/imperialism/homophobia bdw, without the concept of race it would be something else.
People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that. But if a Mexican kills a black man out of hatred and calls him the nword in the process....that is racism. On the other hand if a black man beats up an Asian man and calls him a the c-word in the process that is still racism. White people "created" a culture of racism, other races perpetuate it. However, "race" is not the only method of division that gives humans an excuse to hate oner another.
That would be discrimination not racism
And no one said blacks can hate on other people no one has the right to do that
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Thats not racismOriginally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
white people are the ones who started racism how can they experience it
What they are experiencing is the backlash of the racism they started
That's like saying, white people invented guns and only they can use it to harm others. White people may have invented "racism", but this has created a reality where other "races" make judgements based on race....no one is immune to it. Black can be racist against Asians and vice versa.
White people didn't invent xenophobia/ hatred/imperialism/homophobia bdw, without the concept of race it would be something else.
People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that. But if a Mexican kills a black man out of hatred and calls him the nword in the process....that is racism. On the other hand if a black man beats up an Asian man and calls him a the c-word in the process that is still racism. White people "created" a culture of racism, other races perpetuate it. However, "race" is not the only method of division that gives humans an excuse to hate oner another.
That would be discrimination not racism
And no one said blacks can hate on other people no one has the right to do that
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First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
That would be discrimination
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First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
That would be discrimination
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There was a latin american day parade happening on 5th ave.
Someone asked an african american by stander what was going on and he replied its a mexican parade.
Someone asked an african american by stander what was going on and he replied its a mexican parade.
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There was a latin american day parade happening on 5th ave.
Someone asked an african american by stander what was going on and he replied its a mexican parade.
Someone asked an african american by stander what was going on and he replied its a mexican parade.
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I could be wrong, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'd say that's just lack of knowledge.
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I could be wrong, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'd say that's just lack of knowledge.
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First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
I understand what you are trying to say, but there is a difference between prejudice and racism. A sexist society can create resentment toward men. That resentment is not sexist, it is a response to being oppressed. It is prejudice, but not sexist.
The same can be said for racism.
The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.
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First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
I understand what you are trying to say, but there is a difference between prejudice and racism. A sexist society can create resentment toward men. That resentment is not sexist, it is a response to being oppressed. It is prejudice, but not sexist.
The same can be said for racism.
The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.
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The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.Originally Posted by Nat Turner
First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
Racism is a form of prejudice. It is acting against someone based on his or her skin color due to a prejudice that person has developed. I don't really get you. You say a lot of words in threads like these but they rarely actually mean anything.
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The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.Originally Posted by Nat Turner
First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
Racism is a form of prejudice. It is acting against someone based on his or her skin color due to a prejudice that person has developed. I don't really get you. You say a lot of words in threads like these but they rarely actually mean anything.
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Racism is a form of prejudice. It is acting against someone based on his or her skin color due to a prejudice that person has developed. I don't really get you. You say a lot of words in threads like these but they rarely actually mean anything.Originally Posted by SaintVitus07
The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.Originally Posted by Nat Turner
First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
The reason that you are wrong is that while prejudice is inherent, being a racist is not.
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Racism is a form of prejudice. It is acting against someone based on his or her skin color due to a prejudice that person has developed. I don't really get you. You say a lot of words in threads like these but they rarely actually mean anything.Originally Posted by SaintVitus07
The racist system that exists in America, and in other places in the world, creates resentment against those who are in power, those who happen to be white. This is not racism, it is prejudice. Their actions, belief in their own superiority, created the resentment against them. Their feelings of superiority comes from entitlement, therein lies the difference.Originally Posted by Nat Turner
First- Yes i do believe men can experience Sexism.....if i go looking for a job at Mcdonalds and the Manager is a Woman who for some reason hates men and Decides shes not going to hire me solely because im a man, ive experienced Sexism.
Second- replace women with Black people and Men with White People? idk why your trying To turn this into a black vs White thing when there are so many other races out there that also deal with racism
third- I realy believe if u take my first statement and its a white man trying to get that job at Mcdonalds and the managers a black guy who doesent hire him based on the fact that hes white, that that white guy experienced racism
The reason that you are wrong is that while prejudice is inherent, being a racist is not.
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Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
Thats not racismOriginally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
white people are the ones who started racism how can they experience it
What they are experiencing is the backlash of the racism they started
That's like saying, white people invented guns and only they can use it to harm others. White people may have invented "racism", but this has created a reality where other "races" make judgements based on race....no one is immune to it. Black can be racist against Asians and vice versa.
White people didn't invent xenophobia/ hatred/imperialism/homophobia bdw, without the concept of race it would be something else.
People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that. But if a Mexican kills a black man out of hatred and calls him the nword in the process....that is racism. On the other hand if a black man beats up an Asian man and calls him a the c-word in the process that is still racism. White people "created" a culture of racism, other races perpetuate it. However, "race" is not the only method of division that gives humans an excuse to hate oner another.
That would be discrimination not racism
And no one said blacks can hate on other people no one has the right to do that
white people made race a part of our reality, if someone in these times hates someone based on their "classically defined" race that is racism.
The use of "racism" to exert dominance on another race is not the only manifestation of racism. A simple violent jesture or animosity toward someone else based on their race is still "racism".
DISCRIMINATION based on RACE=RACISM
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Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
Thats not racismOriginally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder
white people are the ones who started racism how can they experience it
What they are experiencing is the backlash of the racism they started
That's like saying, white people invented guns and only they can use it to harm others. White people may have invented "racism", but this has created a reality where other "races" make judgements based on race....no one is immune to it. Black can be racist against Asians and vice versa.
White people didn't invent xenophobia/ hatred/imperialism/homophobia bdw, without the concept of race it would be something else.
People's beef here seems to be the fact that minority groups are more affected by racism and institutionalized racism which is very true no one is trying to argue that. But if a Mexican kills a black man out of hatred and calls him the nword in the process....that is racism. On the other hand if a black man beats up an Asian man and calls him a the c-word in the process that is still racism. White people "created" a culture of racism, other races perpetuate it. However, "race" is not the only method of division that gives humans an excuse to hate oner another.
That would be discrimination not racism
And no one said blacks can hate on other people no one has the right to do that
white people made race a part of our reality, if someone in these times hates someone based on their "classically defined" race that is racism.
The use of "racism" to exert dominance on another race is not the only manifestation of racism. A simple violent jesture or animosity toward someone else based on their race is still "racism".
DISCRIMINATION based on RACE=RACISM
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If you're talking about so-called "inherent" prejudice you could also speak to tribalism, which is almost an antiquated form of racism. This theory of "inherent prejudice" is dicey enough as it is.
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If you're talking about so-called "inherent" prejudice you could also speak to tribalism, which is almost an antiquated form of racism. This theory of "inherent prejudice" is dicey enough as it is.
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Almost is not accurate enough. Racism is a theory based upon the supremacy of the White race. Prejudice is simply a reaction to something that is not familiar.
Remember, the concept of race was created by Europeans who deemed themselves White, then placing themselves above all others, using pseudo scientific means back when the rest of the world didn't know any better. Their theory on race only enhanced the inherent emotional response that had already existed.
Prejudice was already here, but racism as theory, upped the ante in favor of those who created said theory.
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Almost is not accurate enough. Racism is a theory based upon the supremacy of the White race. Prejudice is simply a reaction to something that is not familiar.
Remember, the concept of race was created by Europeans who deemed themselves White, then placing themselves above all others, using pseudo scientific means back when the rest of the world didn't know any better. Their theory on race only enhanced the inherent emotional response that had already existed.
Prejudice was already here, but racism as theory, upped the ante in favor of those who created said theory.
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True but many races including black people (and including yourself) have bought into this European "theory" of human categories. You're acting like other races are simply spectators in this false reality the Europeans have successfully fabricated. Other races possess the ability to use it for their own biased and selfish means.
If an asian dude calls me a dumb BLACK nword....he has acknowledged my race and expressed hatred for me as a result of it. Clearly this is an expression of discrimination based on RACE by a non-white "RACE"
