reddit co-founder and online activist AARON SWARTZ dead at 26 years old

[SteveSteve72]

im am sorry dont tell me what to say or what i mean. i dont have to feel better about myself i am a good person.
you say im not yelling or being hostile. Just trying to give some perspective then come at me with this crap.
whatever man
im sorry for your loss not you boy he got what he wanted.

 

[Clyde Frog]

Well it is.

Would you ever think of committing suicide? Do you think you could do it?

Well then imagine what someone was going through to actually do it. Imagine how miserable they were. How sad they were or how angry. Imagine the thought of never being happy...ever...forever. Think about happiness, and think about the thought of never having it.

Your living life as a human being right now. I think your underestimating how miserable one must feel to take away your own life. Just think about it. Think about how hard it would be to end your life and imagine what it would take for you as an individual to follow through with. Well they actually felt that. Do you still not feel bad?

I'm going to assume you don't feel bad because its a **** move to those who love you right? Well it's your life not theirs, and you didn't have the choice to live. You don't have a choice to who loves you or who you love. You don't even have a choice not to die, it's gonna happen eventually. If you were to decide to just leave everything behind and move across the world, and experience the world do you think that would be a **** move to those who love you? Cause you just left them to see the world while they stay back at home. Other than the thought of being gone forever I don't see the difference. But we're all eventually gonna be gone... Who are you to judge when someone decides to leave when it's their life?

For the record I'm not being hostile towards you in any way. Just trying to give some perspective. I had a good friend who committed suicide so I've thought about it. I can see why people think its selfish or whatever. But I think it's wrong to not feel bad for someone who committed suice because its "selfish" By you saying that it only shows that you are indeed the one who is selfish not the person who commited suicide because you're worrying about your own feelings more than the person who had it so bad that they were willing to take their own life. You think the loved one has it worse because they have to deal with that persosn death? How do they have it worse than the person who killed themself and is no longer living? Unless you commit suicide yourself then trust me you don't have it as bad as someone who did.

Again not yelling or being hostile. Just trying to give some perspective.

first i want to say im sorry about your friend. you make great points and made me think alot, but i dont feel bad because this person wanted to die so why should I feel bad? its what they wanted. that does not make selfish

They wanted to die so you shouldn't feel bad? You think they actually wanted to die? Or live a happy life...

When someone commits suicide it's not what they want. They do it because they see it as the best possible option. A option that's achievable. While being happy isnt an achievable option. Once you've actually thought about how it feels to never be happy you will then feel bad.

Those who commit suicide don't want to die. They do it because they can't have what they want. They don't have what every human should have. Happiness.

 

[Clyde Frog]

first i want to say im sorry about your friend. you make great points and made me think alot, but i dont feel bad because this person wanted to die so why should I feel bad? its what they wanted. that does not make selfish

i kind of agree with you

then there's the fact that there are people around the world who's entire existence is based on day to day survival

to kill yourself because you're "depressed" just seems petty when i think about it in those terms

It's all about what's relative though. Those who live well off and those who are fighting for survival can't relate to each other. Making a statement like that shows me that you think you know exactly how the brain works. Using your logic, money should bring eternal happiness right?

 

[knowledgebones72]

im am sorry dont tell me what to say or what i mean. i dont have to feel better about myself i am a good person.
you say im not yelling or being hostile. Just trying to give some perspective then come at me with this crap.
whatever man
im sorry for your loss not you boy he got what he wanted.

bruh you're not sorry, though. if you were sorry you would be trying to understand what could lead to that. but you don't care how a person could actually murder themselves and be at peace with that decision. there's a lot that goes into that.

you know that when you hear about a suicide, you just say that stuff to feel like you care, but inside do you not just shrug and keep it moving?

 

[gatzbygordon]

 its what they wanted. that does not make selfish

wow..

yeah these people wake up wishing the only thing they'd want is to kill themselves..

this guy was depressed beyond the breaking point..they were going to make an example of this kid..you obviously didn't read the article, he also hung himself which is not an easy task..

this isnt what he wanted...this is what he was pushed to do..

this kid was so damn smart and they were going to give him decades in a federal prison..

 

[SteveSteve72]

bruh you're not sorry, though. if you were sorry you would be trying to understand what could lead to that. but you don't care how a person could actually murder themselves and be at peace with that decision. there's a lot that goes into that.

you know that when you hear about a suicide, you just say that stuff to feel like you care, but inside do you not just shrug and keep it moving?

yeah like i said i dont feel bad for people who committed suicide.

 

[SteveSteve72]

wow..

yeah these people wake up wishing the only thing they'd want is to kill themselves..

this guy was depressed beyond the breaking point..they were going to make an example of this kid..you obviously didn't read the article, he also hung himself which is not an easy task..

this isnt what he wanted...this is what he was pushed to do..

this kid was so damn smart and they were going to give him decades in a federal prison..

you dont even make sence, he killed himself it is what he wanted no one else killed him.
and no i didn't read the article

 

[gatzbygordon]

you dont even make sence, he killed himself it is what he wanted no one else killed him.
and no i didn't read the article

of course it doesn't make "sence" to you..

you didn't read the article.

 

[Clyde Frog]

bruh you're not sorry, though. if you were sorry you would be trying to understand what could lead to that. but you don't care how a person could actually murder themselves and be at peace with that decision. there's a lot that goes into that.

you know that when you hear about a suicide, you just say that stuff to feel like you care, but inside do you not just shrug and keep it moving?

yeah like i said i dont feel bad for people who committed suicide.

There's those who would literally die for happiness. Then there's those who take it for granted...

It's a shame you could care less about something so Important while there are many who have killed themselves because they didn't have it.

Heres an analogy. It's no different than saying you don't feel bad there are those who have literally nothing to eat while you get your 3 meals a day. Being happy is just as vital as food and water if you want to have a good life. If it weren't then people wouldn't be committing suicide.

 

[bleach]

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It's all about what's relative though. Those who live well off and those who are fighting for survival can't relate to each other. Making a statement like that shows me that you think you know exactly how the brain works. Using your logic, money should bring eternal happiness right?

who's problem is worse though? the person living in conditions with high infant mortality rate or the kid with every opportunity available to him but still can't find happiness?

(i'm not speaking directly about aaron, but just generally)

 

[rillo561]

Wow, so sad.

R.I.P.

 

[SteveSteve72]

of course it doesn't make "sence" to you..

you didn't read the article.

oh no i spelled something wrong

 

[illmatic34]

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who's problem is worse though? the person living in conditions with high infant mortality rate or the kid with every opportunity available to him but still can't find happiness?

(i'm not speaking directly about aaron, but just generally)

Suffering is suffering, physical pain can be equal to mental pain depending on the person.

I've been suicidal before and I hope I never reach that point in my life again. Depression isn't a joke, talk to people who have been depressed or are depressed and get a good gauge of the pain they go through.

 

[Clyde Frog]

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It's all about what's relative though. Those who live well off and those who are fighting for survival can't relate to each other. Making a statement like that shows me that you think you know exactly how the brain works. Using your logic, money should bring eternal happiness right?

who's problem is worse though? the person living in conditions with high infant mortality rate or the kid with every opportunity available to him but still can't find happiness?

(i'm not speaking directly about aaron, but just generally)

What does it matter? The question isn't who has it worse in that country or this country. Like I said how can you compare lives when neither can relate to each other. Both have been conditioned to think very differently. Both will have very different life styles and cultures. You have no idea how someone in a third world country thinks or acts so how can you compare.

If I were to be depressed because every person I knew had high expectations of me going to college, get a degree, get a job, get married, have children, and have grandkids but failed... do you think someone who lives in an area with a high infant mortality rate can relate to that?

If I had millions of dollars but had nobody to consider a friend do you think someone living in an area with a high infant mortality rate could relate to that.

If someone who lived in an area with a high infant mortality rate saw their entire family die due to starvation, became depressed, and commited suicide...do you think YOU could relate to that?

Lets say there are people who are poor but happy in an area with a high infant mortality rate. Why don't we throw you in their environment then. No more Internet for you, TV, McDonald's, Xbox, bars, movie theaters, heat, AC, vehicle, grocery stores ect. You should be happy with no problems right cause they are? I can guarantee that you don't know what makes every living person happy or not, no matter the environment they live in. Unless you do? Forget relating to those that we're not able to. I live in the same country as you. So relate yourself to me. What makes me happy? Name a few things that I want in life? What makes me sad? What's my financial situation like? What's my family or friends situation like? Tell me about my past... You speak as if you know this.

 

[bleach]

What does it matter? The question isn't who has it worse in that country or this country. Like I said how can you compare lives when neither can relate to each other. Both have been conditioned to think very differently. Both will have very different life styles and cultures. You have no idea how someone in a third world country thinks or acts so how can you compare.

If I were to be depressed because every person I knew had high expectations of me going to college, get a degree, get a job, get married, have children, and have grandkids but failed... do you think someone who lives in an area with a high infant mortality rate can relate to that?

If I had millions of dollars but had nobody to consider a friend do you think someone living in an area with a high infant mortality rate could relate to that.

If someone who lived in an area with a high infant mortality rate saw their entire family die due to starvation, became depressed, and commited suicide...do you think YOU could relate to that?

actually i do have an idea how people in third world countries think and act. my mother grew up in a third world country, and i've visited and seen true poverty and suffering, so i've seen both sides.

so that's why i guess it's hard for me to take it seriously when people i know, that have every opportunity in life, with parents that love them and will support them, and have had everything handed to them, want to talk about depression. it's hard for me to really think that your parents having expectations for you to go to college is worse than not even having the opportunity to go to highschool.

so when you say how these privileged people simply can't relate to this, it makes me even more disgusted because they're not even aware how blessed they are

 

[davidme00]

RIP man

 

[dt43]

What does it matter? The question isn't who has it worse in that country or this country. Like I said how can you compare lives when neither can relate to each other. Both have been conditioned to think very differently. Both will have very different life styles and cultures. You have no idea how someone in a third world country thinks or acts so how can you compare.

If I were to be depressed because every person I knew had high expectations of me going to college, get a degree, get a job, get married, have children, and have grandkids but failed... do you think someone who lives in an area with a high infant mortality rate can relate to that?

If I had millions of dollars but had nobody to consider a friend do you think someone living in an area with a high infant mortality rate could relate to that.

If someone who lived in an area with a high infant mortality rate saw their entire family die due to starvation, became depressed, and commited suicide...do you think YOU could relate to that?

actually i do have an idea how people in third world countries think and act. my mother grew up in a third world country, and i've visited and seen true poverty and suffering, so i've seen both sides.

so that's why i guess it's hard for me to take it seriously when people i know, that have every opportunity in life, with parents that love them and will support them, and have had everything handed to them, want to talk about depression. it's hard for me to really think that your parents having expectations for you to go to college is worse than not even having the opportunity to go to highschool.

so when you say how these privileged people simply can't relate to this, it makes me even more disgusted because they're not even aware how blessed they are

Having opportunities or loving parents doesn't guarantee that you will feel happy.


In fact, for a lot of people with depression it's the exact opposite. Something inside them makes them feel guilty for being in the position they're in, because they feel like they don't deserve what they have or that they are a burden to their loved ones. So what you perceive as a good thing from the outside looking in, can actually exacerbate the problem further in the mind of a depressed individual.

Studies have shown that people in third world countries are actually happier on average than people in developed countries. Happiness has nothing to do with being financially well-off in life.

 

[Clyde Frog]

What does it matter? The question isn't who has it worse in that country or this country. Like I said how can you compare lives when neither can relate to each other. Both have been conditioned to think very differently. Both will have very different life styles and cultures. You have no idea how someone in a third world country thinks or acts so how can you compare.

If I were to be depressed because every person I knew had high expectations of me going to college, get a degree, get a job, get married, have children, and have grandkids but failed... do you think someone who lives in an area with a high infant mortality rate can relate to that?

If I had millions of dollars but had nobody to consider a friend do you think someone living in an area with a high infant mortality rate could relate to that.

If someone who lived in an area with a high infant mortality rate saw their entire family die due to starvation, became depressed, and commited suicide...do you think YOU could relate to that?

actually i do have an idea how people in third world countries think and act. my mother grew up in a third world country, and i've visited and seen true poverty and suffering, so i've seen both sides.

so that's why i guess it's hard for me to take it seriously when people i know, that have every opportunity in life, with parents that love them and will support them, and have had everything handed to them, want to talk about depression. it's hard for me to really think that your parents having expectations for you to go to college is worse than not even having the opportunity to go to highschool.

so when you say how these privileged people simply can't relate to this, it makes me even more disgusted because they're not even aware how blessed they are

O so now privileged = happiness? If that were the case then I don't think we'd be discussing suicide in America right now compare to third world countries.

And no you don't have a clue about what provokes depression in a third world country. You live in America dude. You're on the Internet, posting on a forum, on your computer, in your room next to your comfy bed. You can't relate to what would make someone depressed in a third world country. I've read about it and seen it on TV. Sooo I should be able to relate to their suffering right? No. Not unless you've lived it along with the culture being embedded in your brain. You're awfully hypocritical judging others here while using those who have less as you type on your computer.

I edits my post before so you may not have seen it but it seems as if you know what's going on in everyone's head. So tell me..what makes me happy? What makes me sad? What do I expect of myself? What's my family situation like? Friends? Tell me about my past?

Suicide is a sad thing and it troubles me that people like you can brush it off as "it's what they wanted". Similar to what I said before go and think about what you want in life deeply. Then tell yourself you'll never have it. Think about how that makes you feel and imagine if you had to feel that forever. While your at it think about this too. How can somebody from a third world country truly want the same thing that makes you happy when they don't even know it exists? I'll answer that for you. Because what makes the, happy is something completely different than what makes us happy.

 

[cash money 1999]

you dont even make sence, he killed himself it is what he wanted no one else killed him.
and no i didn't read the article

he had severe migraines from a blood clot and was essentially facing decades in prison for posting

millions of academic papers online for the public 

 

[bleach]

O so now privileged = happiness? If that were the case then I don't think we'd be discussing suicide in America right now compare to third world countries.

And no you don't have a clue about what provokes depression in a third world country. You live in America dude. You're on the Internet, posting on a forum, on your computer, in your room next to your comfy bed. You can't relate to what would make someone depressed in a third world country. I've read about it and seen it on TV. Sooo I should be able to relate to their suffering right? No. Not unless you've lived it along with the culture being embedded in your brain. You're awfully hypocritical judging others here while using those who have less as you type on your computer.

I edits my post before so you may not have seen it but it seems as if you know what's going on in everyone's head. So tell me..what makes me happy? What makes me sad? What do I expect of myself? What's my family situation like? Friends? Tell me about my past?

Suicide is a sad thing and it troubles me that people like you can brush it off as "it's what they wanted". Similar to what I said before go and think about what you want in life deeply. Then tell yourself you'll never have it. Think about how that makes you feel and imagine if you had to feel that forever. While your at it think about this too. How can somebody from a third world country truly want the same thing that makes you happy when they don't even know it exists? I'll answer that for you. Because what makes the, happy is something completely different than what makes us happy.

you make it seem like i'm denying the fact that i'm privileged, that's not the case. im well aware that i'm very fortunate to be in the situation that i am. i would also never kill myself. my problem is with those who disregard their privileged. i was born in a 3rd world country and moved to america when i was 4, so i'm very aware that my life didn't have to turn out the way it has.

and what do you mean people in third world countries don't know what exists? in a lot of third world countries the wealth is literally right next to the extreme poverty. a lot of times those poor people spend their lives serving those with the wealth, yet they still manage to be happy with what little they have. it doesn't mean they're oblivious to the fact that they're poor though.

 

[diabolicaldeezy]

 To Young... RIP

 

[Mark Antony]

Sad how you guys think depression and mental illness is that simple. "well he wanted to die". Typical young misinformed morons that have plagued nt since day one. It's ok, you'll get older and smarter. If not, god help you.

 

[va757va]

Sad how you guys think depression and mental illness is that simple. "well he wanted to die". Typical young misinformed morons that have plagued nt since day one. It's ok, you'll get older and smarter. If not, god help you.

sad how some people think...wheres the empathy?

smh..i feel for the youth...

ish aint even cool man...

 

[ashymoney]

Rest In Peace

 

[reener]

RIP