runners for ball

[y0953c32]

watup nt, i recently had a health care professional come in one my classes as a guest speaker n he made a really interesting point about athletic footwear thatgot me thinking. wat he basically said was that injuries in the body most often result in another area or muscle group being weak, injured and/or restrictedin movement. the main point here is the restricted movement part as in this case basketball shoes wit their carbon fiber, tpu, other plastic, chassis systemetc. as mid foot and toe to heel stability restrict one's foot to move freely without resistance as it is intended to do. the resistance on the foot'smovement results in certain muscles have to overcompensate or have a greater resistance put on them because other muscles are not being used due to certainfoot angles being restricted (make sense?). therefore, as certain muscles are continuously pounded with no help from surrounding muscle for different flexionangles during exercise (ex. basketball) they will eventually become damage and weaken resulting in injury (may be in an area other than the weak muscle asstated before, basically the reasoning is the same...other muscles get more resistance if another muscle is weakened and thus this muscle ca be injured insteadof the initially weakened muscle).

anywayz so my idea was to screw ball shoes n instead get shoes that allow for adequate cushinging, comfort and most importantly allow for free movement ofmy foot with the least resistance....wat type of shoes do this? RUNNING SHOES!!! so im planning is just to get some Asics Nimbus's n ball in those insteadfrom now on. but i will also need to have ankle braces on both ankles as i do lose the ankle support in the switch (is this the only advantage to ballshoes?). LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE IS CURRENTLY DOING THIS OR U JUST HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. thx for reading.

 

[deezyvsop]

My goodness, I didn't read the whole thing, but I read the second paragraph.

I got a pair of Asics Nimbus VII's and I wouldn't ball in them unless MJ himself showed up and that's all I had with me.

Well, I think it's possible, and even good for some people. But if we're talking about serious playing, like physical pickup or a rec. league, Ipersonally wouldn't do it. Most running shoes are designed for just that: running. All that requires, for the most part, is forward motion only.

Obviously, bball requires all kinds of movement, as well as jumping and landing. I can't get a good amount of speed, or secure cuts, stability, impactprotection, traction, and lockdown fit from my running shoes. So I wouldn't do it, but if it works for you, why not?

 

[cbfpunch]

 

[imrichboy]

Their is so much violent motion when playing basketball compared to running in one direction. In basketball you have to drive, and cut to the basket. Iwouldn't want to play in running shoes, they need more traction.

 

[mt3130]

ok i had to laugh at this lol....you want the least amount of restriction possible but you are still gonna wear ankle braces...

just get some low top basketball shoes and call it a day. have you ever played in runners before?? it sucks. every crossover and quick change of directionfeels
like you are going to sprain an ankle or step off of the bottom of the shoe.

what that dude said sounds great in theory, but its application will tell you far different.

 

[y0953c32]

Originally Posted by mt3130

ok i had to laugh at this lol....you want the least amount of restriction possible but you are still gonna wear ankle braces...

just get some low top basketball shoes and call it a day. have you ever played in runners before?? it sucks. every crossover and quick change of direction feels
like you are going to sprain an ankle or step off of the bottom of the shoe.

what that dude said sounds great in theory, but its application will tell you far different.

ya i no the ankle brace thing is kinda contradictory, i completely agree...but i have been balling for the past couple of weeks in runners inpickup games n wat not n seriously cutting, comfort and especially the muscle, knee and body soreness after is much less. but i tweaked my ankle a coupletimes wit them on so i guess a lil restriction would help round the ankle????
ps. i havent experienced "step off of the bottom of the shoe" yet...maybe ur shoes r 2 loose?

 

[mt3130]

hey before i comment again..i didnt mean to come off the way i did. after reading my comment a day later it seems a little disrespectful and thats now how iintended it to be.

but for the stepping off part, i wear a 13.5 and the runners that i was wearing were size 13 and i tied them tight. it happened when i would push off for a cutor a quick stop and
it felt like the upper material wasn't supportive enough to stop. i specifically remember it happening when i took a jab step to my right with my rightfoot. i jabbed then used my right
foot to push off of to go left and all of a sudden my heel was out of the shoe and my shoe was on my food sideways lol. ever since then i wont even try itanymore.

i do see what you are saying with the runners because impact protection is the main priority and as weird as this sounds, that's not always the case withbasketball shoes. that would help the soreness as well as the support that runners offer to help disperse the impact over the entire foot and as a result, theentire leg. most basketball shoes now are extremely lacking in the support department which will concentrate the impact in one area depending on how you land(heel, forefoot, straight legged, etc.), thus leading to sore legs and possibly overuse injuries such as
patellar tendinitis, patellofemoral syndrome, stress fractures, plantar fascitis, and so on.

 

[blackcat23mj]

i agree with what the specialist told you, a point i made in another thread regarding high top shoes, when you wear high tops with strict ankle support theankles weaken after relying on the support, so technically low tops would strengthen ankles but one bad situation can land you in a rough spot, just the samewith mid or high (those just help reduce ankle injuries) but anyways, i would suggest a shoe with good surface area for grip, where as running doesnt have asmuch specially on cuts and hard turns, but a low top basketball shoe would probably be a good idea as someone suggest, just get one without the frills (i.e.carbon fiber etc.)

 

[iball]

I used to wear my Asics with my ASO ankle braces to play. They were great in terms of weight and cushioning, but the upper that runner are made of isn'table to hold up to the transitions made in game.

 

[y0953c32]

Originally Posted by iBall

I used to wear my Asics with my ASO ankle braces to play. They were great in terms of weight and cushioning, but the upper that runner are made of isn't able to hold up to the transitions made in game.

thats a great note...thx
jsut curious how so is the upper not suitable? does the ankle brace ride n deteriorate it? lock down fit?

 

[fc1114]

Best part of this thread, waiting for people to tell stories of injuries suffered due to playing bball in the WRONG footwear (runningshoes).

 

[kid lebron]

get the Zoom MVPS, low top basketball shoes...

 

[y0953c32]

Originally Posted by fc1114


Best part of this thread, waiting for people to tell stories of injuries suffered due to playing bball in the WRONG footwear (running shoes).

best part about forums, bloody ppl commenting useless n inaccurate comments. 1. no1 has commented on being injured yet. 2. i doubt there r manyppl with injuries form balling in runners...did u read the blob on top? doubt it
^^ya mvps look solid might look into those

 

[thefundamental]

it's a common thing to see people ball in runners where i'm at. nothing bad has ever happened, though i would want to stay away from shoes with overlymuch cushioning, it seems that one would get less lateral stability.

 

[burns1923]

Years ago I consistently balled in New Balance 712's because of the Abzorb cushioning, light weight, and freedom of movement they allowed.

I have no problem playing in any athletic shoe as long as the fit and cushioning is there. I'm personally not concerned with injury but that's me;others may want a traditional basketball shoe for balling.

A rolled ankle can happen in any shoe no matter the cut. Yeah a higher cut may reduce a sprain's severity, it won't fully prevent the sprain.

Why pick footwear based on a fluke injury, one that very well may never happen.

Pick the shoe best for you.

 

[dneou20]

i hear you on the running shoe deal... but if I were to do something like that I'd stick with some cross trainers.
I used to do basketball workouts with the high school kids over the summer and all of last year when i was an assistant after i graduated.
i usually went to the workouts in my Air Edges because of the outtrigger and the traction it gave me.
I found myself playing with the kids continuous 1 on 1 and the edges held up pretty well
of course the upper wasn't as protective as a regular basketball shoe but they did the job for me.
iff you want to do something like play in a low top or a runner for it to be extremely light...
maybe just try out a cross trainer like the edge. now i dont normally play in them
i just use them as my workout shoes then i end up shooting hoops for a bit at the rec or gym
but usually i'll play with my zoom bb 2 lows or whatnot, definitely looking forward to the zoom mvp

as for the commet about weaker ankles, it is the truth.
i severely sprained my ankle the summer into my sophomore year
and i continued to wear an ASO ankle brace EVERY time i played.
it didn't matter if it was workouts, shootaround, pickup games, or season play
i had those things on since that summer to spring...
my buddy told me about the more i wear them the weaker my ankles would be
so i stopped wearing them for workouts and shootaround and i felt super unstable
so i started to do more intense workouts in cross trainers and my ankles kept getting stronger
then i went away from the braces when i wore mid tops and my ankles have held up since
I've had a minor tweak here and there but nothing serious
now I'll play in low tops when I want with no worries

i mean this is why they created the frees right?
natural motion and it strengthens part of ur foot and ankle that you wouldn't with regular shoes