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the problem with the perkins acquisition was the length of the contract he was signed to.. and having scotty in control of everything
dude played perk no matter what
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dude played perk no matter what
mr marcus
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obviously a foot injury can ruin it but if his foot heels properly he'll be back where he left off
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KD leaves if they don't make it to the WCF or further this year.
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I just think these dudes realize we're in 2015.. that whole big market stuff is overrated (as blatantly shown this offseason)
Durant and westbrook could and do get everything they want while being in OKC right now.. winning is the biggest thing.. and I don't know which situation out there that is better than OKC from that perspective
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silverbackhoney
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Market stuff doesn't mean anything.
But if the Thunder are one small trade or move away from being champs this year I expect KD/Russy would be upset. Many other teams would make that move and the thunder organization just hasn't in recent years.
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Crazy thing is Perkins is only 30. Who'll coulda predicted that coming off of averaging 10ppg & 8rpg & 2bpg at age 25 that he would be washed by 28.
He gave OKC 2 1/2 solid years. That whole Scotty playing him thing was a little bit overblown.
Perk didn't even average over 20mpg his last few years there. Including the playoffs. Perkins was a good defender against strong low post bigs in the post season.
Timmy shot 44% against that Ibaka/Perkins frontline in 2012. The other bigs were just too young then.
Like somebody said earlier, one of the main reasons OKC hasn't won yet has a lot to do with untimely injuries. And the fact that they made the finals ahead of schedule.
They shouldn't have been there in 2012.
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LeBron left because the cavs were a terrible team without him..
OKC won 45 games in the west with all of those injuries.. literally this was okc at the very beginning of the year:
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The market stuff does matter for the exact reason you downplay the Thunder. Sure, they could probably get players to come there but they can't afford it because they don't make as much as the Lakers and the Knicks. You can say the market has shifted because players dont want to player for the Lakers or the Knicks, but I wouldn't want to play on a crap awful team with a Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony shooting 30 shots a game regardless of how much you paid me.
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...and they paid Sebastian Telfair guaranteed money.
Later picked up Ish Smith when Russ was returning,
while a great 3 ball shooting wing in Robert Covington was just blowin' in the wind...
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You guys sound ridiculous with the whole OKC FO hasn't done anything talk 
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this sounds about right .
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nah man.. the biggest thing with scotty over playing perkins is dude had 1 legit nba skill, low post defense.. other than that you're playing him too much..
especially when you have collison right there who I would have rather seen get those mins.. or more recently steven adams
it took perkins being out for just over 20 games for scotty to give adams serious burn.. and literally took foul trouble for him to use adams in the playoffs even with perkins being ineffective
then you just have terrible matchups (like the finals) and scotty just stuck with him.. but that's scotty.. unless crap was just about to hit the fan, he wasn't changing anything
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The Market stuff definitely matters.
Pau Gasol chose Chicago over Oklahoma City because he likes the symphony's and the city of Chicago.
The market only doesn't matter to old vets ring chasing.
Pau Gasol chose Chicago over Oklahoma City because he likes the symphony's and the city of Chicago.
The market only doesn't matter to old vets ring chasing.
silverbackhoney
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"Hey, we have KD and Russ. Want to win a championship?" every single FA in budget would fall for that
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Do you guys think you're speaking positively on OKC when saying any other team would take their F.O.? Because give those other teams Durant and Westbrook and they would find a way to bring in several guys who would love to play with Durant/Westbrook and win a title possibly for less than they're worth. Average is not acceptable when you have those two, because you have such a leg up other GM's in terms of who you can attract by having those two.
Not only does OKC have very meager returns on that advantage, but they have all of you drones out there talking about how most organizations would lay out the red carpet for their front office. 
Not only does OKC have very meager returns on that advantage, but they have all of you drones out there talking about how most organizations would lay out the red carpet for their front office.
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Pau Gasol didn't...
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EXACTLY .. dudes grasping for straws and not even spewing factual information at this point
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which front office drafted durant and westbrook? ibaka and harden? steven adams?Do you guys think you're speaking positively on OKC when saying any other team would take their F.O.? Because give those other teams Durant and Westbrook and they would find a way to bring in several guys who would love to play with Durant/Westbrook and win a title possibly for less than they're worth. Average is not acceptable when you have those two, because you have such a leg up other GM's in terms of who you can attract by having those two.
Not only does OKC have very meager returns on that advantage, but they have all of you drones out there talking about how most organizations would lay out the red carpet for their front office.
thunder have doen a great job. only issues are trading harden and keeping brooks too long.
still a great foundation and team in OKC though.
jpzx
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Oh, so Pau Gasol didn't go to Oklahoma City, so that debunks the idea that people would go to a ****** place for less money to play with Durant and Westbrook?
Pau Gasol has a lot of power over you. Apparently.
Pau Gasol has a lot of power over you. Apparently.
jpzx
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I said in the past three years. Adams, NICE! That's one. Go on, please.
I swear if any of you bring up McGary. He's nice, what the hell is he going to do to change anything in OKC? That's the point. They have brought in nobody in the past three years that moved the needle, and that's an embarrassment when people are out there around the league this offseason voluntarily LOWERING their earnings just to go to a better team.
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mcgary is solid.
payne could be very good, we'll see.
payne could be very good, we'll see.
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Why people keep ignoring what they've done OUTSIDE OF THE DRAFT? Every time someone comes in here speaking about how OKC has failed to put the right talent around their stars they have drafted, people come right back in here and talk about WHO THEY DRAFTED.
NO ONE IS SAYING THEY CANNOT DRAFT. goodness
NO ONE IS SAYING THEY CANNOT DRAFT.
goodness
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You acting like they've consistently been a lottery team though ...
jpzx
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It's not just the draft, again.
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