The Combat Jack Show Thread

[x Buddha Bless x]

I was waiting to see if she was going to question her interpretation of evidence and testimonies with all of that Stockholm and coercion talk she was giving. They just making **** up cuz I’m sure they don’t really know what that looks like.

Just cuz it exists doesn’t mean that’s what she got.

Then she just pivoted to Puff is a POS and if only he was exposed earlier when none of it would lead to life in prison. None of his artists really came with legit claims of abuse. Just salacious talk to look like victims.

There’s a difference between coming back to a bad boss and coming back to an abuser.

And the internet psychologist **** is even worse. If we really want to go with ppl being legit sociopaths (just cuz they did some foul ****) that means they were born that way. Ain’t no changing them like a gay person. Accept them as they are and stop attacking them for how they were born. Let them get the tools to function in society instead of trying to persecute and ostracize them #SociopathicRights

The facts say if he beat her one time he’s a woman beater. If he raped her one time he’s a rapist. Being tried for RICO didn’t exonerate him from that.

Since we talking in legal terms, you can only exonerate someone of something after they’re found guilty of a crime they were charged with. He was never charged with abuse/DV or rape.

In layman’s terms, since the vid dropped of the abuse every dude has prefaced any stance they had, said in the middle and ended their stance with he’s a pos for beating Cassie and should’ve been charged with that.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

The facts say if he beat her one time he’s a woman beater. If he raped her one time he’s a rapist. Being tried for RICO didn’t exonerate him from that.

Who said he wasn't that?

Re-read my post.

 

[dacomeup]

Since we talking in legal terms, you can only exonerate someone of something after they’re found guilty of a crime they were charged with. He was never charged with abuse/DV or rape.

I’m a lawyer. Appreciate you explaining legal terms to me . The word has a meaning beyond being officially charged with something. It just means being absolved from some sort of fault or wrongdoing. They were trying to make a big splash and hit him with RICO. I know what he was charged with.

 

[Magic33]

Do y'all realize how nasty this case makes some of y'all look?

Son was threatening, beating and blackmailing her. You can't leave that part out when talking about Puff. Because she willingly participated once, twice, hell 100 times, it doesn't matter if she says no and he forced her twenty, ten or one time.

That's against the law.

That's what a pimp does. You can make the same argument how a pro wanted to 95% of the time and even them being partners. It not being 100% of the time is the problem. Now include the power dynamic he had over a 19 year old.

We have a domestic violence and consent issue. The way people discuss this case and just overlook and talk around this case. That's why so many women are just happy for an arrest or any conviction to finally be acknowledged.

Some of you really need to talk to the women in your lives, be it girl, friend, cousin, or mom.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Some of you really need to talk to the women in your lives, be it girl, friend, cousin, or mom.

The women I talked to say she shoulda been left for good. She left to be other men multiple times and went back, never went to the police.

That's the problem with getting involved in peoples relationships. Women talk all day about their man is terrible.

Ok he's terrible, he's the devil. What's the next step? Keep letting the devil in your space?

All women don't go along with this "we're helpless" mindset. Especially older black women. I know plenty of women that have got the **** away from abusive dudes. Verbal and physical.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

I’m a lawyer. Appreciate you explaining legal terms to me . The word has a meaning beyond being officially charged with something. It just means being absolved from some sort of fault or wrongdoing. They were trying to make a big splash and hit him with RICO. I know what he was charged with.

The way you were talking seemed like you only wanted to address things legally.

Nobody is exonerating Puff of abusing Cassie.

Problem is ppl tend to keep conflating separate things as if not being guilty of RICO means he’s not guilty of what he did to her. Some ppl think the trial was about the tape.

 

[dacomeup]

Especially older black women.

There’s plenty of older Black women who have stuck with abusive, terrible men. It was actually even more likely when women had less rights, couldn’t get a credit card in their name, etc. Your portrayal of it being a generational divide is actually reverse of how it used to be. Women are more likely to leave now. But power imbalances still exist. Victims still stay. And they aren’t lesser people because of it. They’re still victims.

 

[dacomeup]

The way you were talking seemed like you only wanted to address things legally.

No, that was your assumption.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

There’s plenty of older Black women who have stuck with abusive, terrible men. It was actually even more likely when women had less rights, couldn’t get a credit card in their name, etc. Your portrayal of it being a generational divide is actually reverse of how it used to be. Women are more likely to leave now. But power imbalances still exist. Victims still stay. And they aren’t lesser people because of it. They’re still victims.

I'm talking about women in their 40's-50's. These women had rights and stuff of their own. You going back to the 1940's or 50's bruh.

 

[dacomeup]

I'm talking about women in their 40's-50's. These women had rights and stuff of their own. You going back to the 1940's or 50's bruh.

There’s no generation of women who are exempt from staying with their abuser. Women in their 40s and 50s do it/have done it too. Especially when you consider the person with more money/power using it as a means of control.

 

[tomdiginson]

The individuals involved in this particular instance were shills who fully understood what they were participating in. 50's baby mother even admitted on the stand that she was jealous of the other women which is why she was up there. Cassie, to some extent, deserves sympathy but even she was knowingly complicit. She left Ryan Leslie to get with Diddy after a meeting because he was the bigger face. I'll save my sympathies for actual victims.

 

[tay1]

I promise y’all don’t have to defend Diddy. He won’t sign y’all.

 

[Magic33]

The women I talked to say she shoulda been left for good. She left to be other men multiple times and went back, never went to the police.

That's the problem with getting involved in peoples relationships. Women talk all day about their man is terrible.

Ok he's terrible, he's the devil. What's the next step? Keep letting the devil in your space?

All women don't go along with this "we're helpless" mindset. Especially older black women. I know plenty of women that have got the **** away from abusive dudes. Verbal and physical.

Do you consume content with people from people who have different opinions where you can actually learn something?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

There’s no generation of women who are exempt from staying with their abuser. Women in their 40s and 50s do it/have done it too. Especially when you consider the person with more money/power using it as a means of control.

I don't even know what you're disagreeing with. I never there's a whole generation of women exempt from anything. Situations are different, people are different and make different choices in relationships.

My main point is this new thinking that women are helpless and mind controlled by abusive men. It's not real. All women don't stay.

 

[Mark Antony]

"Women are full of ****, except when they confirm my bias".

I've heard people in abusive relationships talk big about others in abusive relationships.

 

[dacomeup]

I don't even know what you're disagreeing with. I never there's a whole generation of women exempt from anything. Situations are different, people are different and make different choices in relationships.

My main point is this new thinking that women are helpless and mind controlled by abusive men. It's not real. All women don't stay.

“All people” don’t do any specific thing in life . You’re not going out on a limb by saying this.

I’m not familiar with the “new thinking” that all women are helpless and mind controlled. Abuse is real. I don’t think Cassie “knew what it was” and just signed up for being abused, raped, stalked, harassed, etc. That’s not my takeaway from this ordeal.

 

[finessence]

What are ya’lls thoughts on Ghislaine Maxwell??

Puff is a sicko no doubt.

But let us not forget that there are tons of “madames” out here also. A lot of women are out here recruiting vulnerable women to be workers too.

Puff Daddy is a vile, sexual deviant/sicko. But again, women aren’t exempt

 

[Maximus Meridius]

“All people” don’t do any specific thing in life . You’re not going out on a limb by saying this.

I’m not familiar with the “new thinking” that all women are helpless and mind controlled. Abuse is real. I don’t think Cassie “knew what it was” and just signed up for being abused, raped, stalked, harassed, etc. That’s not my takeaway from this ordeal.

She was with him for over a decade so she knew after year 9? She just found out who he was when she left for the trainer?

 

[finessence]

Do y'all realize how nasty this case makes some of y'all look?

Son was threatening, beating and blackmailing her. You can't leave that part out when talking about Puff. Because she willingly participated once, twice, hell 100 times, it doesn't matter if she says no and he forced her twenty, ten or one time.

That's against the law.

That's what a pimp does. You can make the same argument how a pro wanted to 95% of the time and even them being partners. It not being 100% of the time is the problem. Now include the power dynamic he had over a 19 year old.

We have a domestic violence and consent issue. The way people discuss this case and just overlook and talk around this case. That's why so many women are just happy for an arrest or any conviction to finally be acknowledged.

Some of you really need to talk to the women in your lives, be it girl, friend, cousin, or mom.

My 58 year old, old girl AND my 27 year old neice said if they’re invited to a celebrity party, especially late night, they know what they’re signing up for. Fortunately that ain’t their style so, they said they wouldn’t go. But they KNOW what it intells.

That’s like a woman calling you between 12am - 3am… those are booty call hours

 

[finessence]

Ya’ll just need to realize that both MEN and WOMEN are abusers out here. More man, of course, but women are DEFINITELY not exempt.

I’ve literally had a woman put hands on me (I’ve never put my hands on a woman in my 37 years of living). I told her to take me home (because I rode with her). And this woman threatened to call the police on me, after SHE hit me. She’s 44 years old btw

 

[dacomeup]

She was with him for over a decade so she knew after year 9? She just found out who he was when she left for the trainer?

I don’t even know what you’re saying at this point.

 

[dacomeup]

Ya’ll just need to realize that both MEN and WOMEN are abusers out here. More man, of course, but women are DEFINITELY not exempt.

I’ve literally had a woman put hands on me (I’ve never put my hands on a woman in my 37 years of living). I told her to take me home (because I rode with her). And this woman threatened to call the police on me, after SHE hit me. She’s 44 years old btw

Yea, both can be. What does this have to be with Cassie and Diddy though?

 

[finessence]

Yea, both can be. What does this have to be with Cassie and Diddy though?

Cassie was with all that mess after while.

S*** like when Ronnie on Players Club set up Ebony at Ronnie’s brother’s bachelor party.

Cassie REALLY thought they were exclusive

She saw Puff abuse Kim Porter and thought she would be different? C’mon man. She eventually became an accessory to the crimes

 

[dacomeup]

Cassie was with all that mess after while.

S*** like when Ronnie on Players Club set up Ebony at Ronnie’s brothers bachelor party.

So she was abusing Diddy?

 

[finessence]

So she was abusing Diddy?

She was abusing those woman that she starting RECRUITING on her own. One of those dudes even said Cassie gave him an STD. That’s disgusting dawg