The Combat Jack Show Thread

And Nore and the N word conversation. Why is it non-black people need to correct so called black people on race?

Cubans aren't black and most don't claim to be.

You can't pick and choose when you want to be black.
 
When I say she ain't say much I mean that literally, there's a lot a of repeating the same word or phrase. Not saying I didn't enjoy it, because I did.

Just a completely different perspective/approach to art. Her not saying much and repeating stuff was very intentional. Repetition in particular is a powerful tool, that's why we learn **** like our ABC's via song. _'s don't even really be knowing they ABC's lol, we just have that rhythm ingrained in our heads. It's used a lot spiritually as well tho, certain sects of Buddhism/Hinduism etc are literally based on it

She did a interview yesterday and said she was referencing the musically repetitive vibe of late Alice Coltrane (a Hindu convert), Sun Ra, etc on here. A lot of early experimental jazz/anti jazz was getting into that type of ****. It’s more feelings based.

So that's what I kinda mean by _'s not having the references. A lot of people haven't heard **** like that before so this is literally their intro to it. And its not their fault. Thats why I say its just not gonna be for everybody. There's a large pool of ppl that just don't like hearing new **** or having to approach music listening from a different perspective.

Edit: My comment wasn’t really even directed at you either bruh :lol: just based off a lot of the commentary I’ve been seeing
 
There are white cubans...and black cubans.

some are though.........
know this cuban dude
used to work with him
he considered myself and him one in the same

This, that would be like saying "Americans ain't black".

Did you guys hear the conversation?

So because there are black cubans that means that all of them can say the N word?

We're americans, they're white and black Americans...so that would mean white people can say it according to Nore and a lot of non-sense I hear.
 
Did you guys hear the conversation?

So because there are black cubans that means that all of them can say the N word?

We're americans, they're white and black Americans...so that would mean white people can say it according to Nore and a lot of non-sense I hear.

I didn't. Wasn't responding to the conversation either.

Only to your comment of "Cubans aren't black".
 
Just a completely different perspective/approach to art. Her not saying much and repeating stuff was very intentional. Repetition in particular is a powerful tool, that's why we learn **** like our ABC's via song. _'s don't even really be knowing they ABC's lol, we just have that rhythm ingrained in our heads. It's used a lot spiritually as well tho, certain sects of Buddhism/Hinduism etc are literally based on it

She did a interview yesterday and said she was referencing the musically repetitive vibe of late Alice Coltrane (a Hindu convert), Sun Ra, etc on here. A lot of early experimental jazz/anti jazz was getting into that type of ****.

So that's what I kinda mean by _'s not having the references. A lot of people haven't heard **** like that before so this is literally their intro to it. And its not their fault. Thats why I say its just not gonna be for everybody. There's a large pool of ppl that just don't like hearing new **** or having to approach music listening from a different perspective.

Edit: My comment wasn’t really even directed at you either bruh :lol: just based off a lot of the commentary I’ve been seeing

Oh I don't doubt that it was all purposeful, I'd have to be an idiot to not think she's aware she's repeating herself over and over.
I just personally wish there was more said on this album after her last album, so there's some personal "disappointment" but still enjoyed the music. It's def gonna get some spins when I have my girls with me and I want to hear something chill.

My only note in these moments when artist experiment with new sounds with references that the average person wouldn't have, is that I hope the artist and especially their fans allow other people to enjoy other artists for that same leap or same experimental periods. Folks even now kill Kanye for his experimental moments and if you say you enjoy the music you a stan no debate. Same with Thug, Future, etc.

It's like there's a selective process for experimental artists that only a few get to really enjoy and the rest "suffer" or don't reap the benefits
 
My only note in these moments when artist experiment with new sounds with references that the average person wouldn't have, is that I hope the artist and especially their fans allow other people to enjoy other artists for that same leap or same experimental periods. Folks even now kill Kanye for his experimental moments and if you say you enjoy the music you a stan no debate. Same with Thug, Future, etc.

It's like there's a selective process for experimental artists that only a few get to really enjoy and the rest "suffer" or don't reap the benefits

I honestly don't see this ever changing bruh :lol:

One of the greatest ironies of rap and black culture/art in general. On the surface, black art is wild creative and experimental :lol: _'s literally out here in the trenches with limited means/resources making something out of nothing. Raps, crazy dances all kinda ****

Yet we have the weirdest relationship with stuff that stands somewhat outside of our view of what is and isn't "black"/hip hop/r&b etc
 
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I honestly don't see this ever changing bruh :lol:

One of the greatest ironies of rap and black culture. On the surface, black art is wild creative and experimental :lol: _'s literally out here in the trenches with limited means/resources making something out of nothing

Yet we have the weirdest relationship with stuff that stands somewhat outside of our view of what is and isn't "black"/hip hop/r&b etc

It's not, but that's expected. People will also "hate", people will always want a specific sound from certain people.

There will always be the fight from "purist" who want music to stay the same while also wanting it to grow and be respected by people who can't identify with it.
 
I don't think black people have a issue with artists experimenting. Black artists have always experimented and done different things and changed the current popular sound. Everybody's just not gonna like the same thing. I remember when The Love Below came out, some people hated it, some people loved it. Same with 808's & Heartbreak.

Music fans in general build a expectation for certain artist and have a hard time adjusting if that artist changes their style up.
 
Eh, people like to segment albums like those and push them from Hip-hop and downplay them and with time they are looked back on like they were always respected
 
There's also a segment of people who praise anything because it sounds different. Even if it is subpar. That lo-fi "experimental" Earl album to me was lazy and uninspiring but people are hailing it as a classic

Look at the views of Yeezus too. Some _'s love it, some don't.
 
I mean, part of what makes it 'experimental' is that you're going outside the box and taking musical risks. They're risks because there's a good chance they wont resonate with the majority of people.

I commend any artist who takes that chance, but if it isn't pleasing to me sonically, I'm going to call a spade a spade.

What turned me off most about the album is the repetition. It felt uninspired. I plan on listening again just to get a feel for the overall vibe of the album, but 50% of your album is what you're saying. She really isn't saying anything here.
 
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