The Invincible Thread

[silverbackhoney]

 

 People fail to realize that a minority does not share the same opinions of the majority.  A few racist cops suddenly means all cops are racist... all cops are racist turns into all white people are racist... then we're just raising another generation based on hate. Nothing will change from that.

But you don't even have the life experience or world view to remotely understand what you're talking about. 

Yeah, I also don't experience racism period because my generation isn't founded on racism or counter-racism. Hopefully everyone else will learn to realize that neither of those solve anything and we'll be able to move on.  All that's happening now will just further dig the hole for everyone.

 

 
Social justice warriors fighting inequality with irrational means expecting positive results

People will never learn to get along unless everyone tries. Being straight up disrespectful =/= equal treatment for anyone, in any case, ever.

That's just wrong, man.  You think that Civil Rights protesters were being "respectful" by the standards of the day?  No way.

Name five countries with better cultural blending and respect for all races and genders than us.  While we aren't perfect, we're far from what we're painted to be.  In a country with 303 MILLION people, a few hundred wrongful deaths is really a drop in the ocean compared to the horrible atrocities that plague countries across Asia, Europe, Africa, and South America on the reg.

People fail to realize that a minority does not share the same opinions of the majority.  A few racist cops suddenly means all cops are racist... all cops are racist turns into all white people are racist... then we're just raising another generation based on hate. Nothing will change from that.

I actually have a positive view of the United States and our history despite the wrongs we have done.  But what you're saying is totally offbase.  

And pointing out and trying to end racism isn't "raising a generation based on hate".  Kaepernick is protesting against hate.

I'm not talking about Kaepernick. I'm talking about people straight up saying things like "**** this flag and everything it stands for". People taking it too far. I agree with what Kaepernick did. I wish someone like Cam or Wilson would do that. I wish an entire team would do it, just not on 9/11.

I'm talking more about awwsome saying that this country is founded on hatred and has awful moral fabrics, when comparitively speaking...not really.

Kaepernick is doing a good job. People out there saying "**** the police" and throwing **** at random cops and doing extra for no reason are just further making issues worse. I never said anything against Kaepernick or sitting out the anthem, I stood up against the "Moral Fabrics" and the huge disrespect towards the nation and flag for no reason other than to be a dbag.

 

But you don't even have the life experience or world view to remotely understand what you're talking about. 

I'm not even trying to come at you because of your age but I honestly don't know how else to put it. 

yeah. Just cause we have it good compared to a lot of other place doesn't mean ish and we can't complain or get mad about the bad. That's nonsense.

As stated previously, the "Moral Fabrics" comment is what irked me. That's ridiculous. Multitudes more opportunities and equalities here than anywhere else in the world.

The thing about police brutality is this...

I don't care what color the cop is when he murders someone. If his colleagues won't call him out then they are all guilty. The few cases of police brutality that have been documented recently is a problem that's gone on for decades.

For example the my main chick is white from North Carolina. She has a rap sheet a mile long. She has told me of stories where she's been pulled over driving with her ex husband in the passenger seat and white friend in the back. The cop stops them then proceeded to press her black husband for ID etc. the two white occupants that included her as the driver aren't spoken to.

This is all right. I'm against anyone being grouped into one huge demographic. Police included. Police brutality in Maryland =/= the police in Dallas are horrible and should be killed etc.  Grouping people into groups and judging period is wrong. In all ways. And EVERYONE needs to be held accountable, even anti-white protestors.

Nobody should be judged, ever, based on anything other than their individual actions and self. No "well he's black so..." or "he's a cop so..." or anything like that.  Everyone is a damn person who makes their own decisions, no group should ever be punished or persecuted based on misconceptions founded in outlier cases etc. People are people.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I'm really not one to keep score when it comes to atrocious acts and the various evils of the world but my God you are ignorant. 

Sad because you would think that the younger generation would be able to see through the BS that patriotism/nationalism is made up of but alas.

America got people so brain washed. This country was was built on racism, terrorist acts, stealing, enslaving. A history of starting wars to get resources. Justifying wars with lies. But this is a great country?




But anyway football is here.

 

[the collector]

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

 

[silverbackhoney]

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Thank you for articulating my thoughts eloquently and non-combatively.

Prepare to be onslaught because I agree with you and nobody cares about my opinion or anything.

 

[IATT]

The thing about police brutality is this...

I don't care what color the cop is when he murders someone. If his colleagues won't call him out then they are all guilty. The few cases of police brutality that have been documented recently is a problem that's gone on for decades.

For example my main chick is white from North Carolina. She has a rap sheet a mile long. She has told me of stories where she's been pulled over driving with her ex husband in the passenger seat and white friend in the back. The cop stops them then proceeded to press her black husband for ID etc. the two white occupants that included her as the driver aren't spoken to. It's real out here depending on where your located. American experience isn't the same for everyone.

I just don't get the automatic free pass or presumption of innocence or benefit of the doubt that is given to these guys given everything we've seen..

in every other aspect of life supposed experts are held to higher standard by their training or the position they hold (or even if they hold themselves out to be something they are not, like Zimmerman).. why shouldn't this apply to them as well?

also I have no clue the relevance what someone may have done in their past has to THAT particular situation and the actions of someone who is supposedly trained.. also it bothers the bejesus out of me when certain folk bring up black on black crime or other similar statistics like that has any relevance whatsoever to a police officer doing something dumb or irrational

bunch of dudes on a power trip

 

[awwsome]

And Qise Lee...

Forgot about my son.

Was the biggest fan of him at USC especially after hearing his story.

 

[flyerthandelta]

Its been about time long awaited this season to kick off!!!

 

[the collector]

awwsome who's you team man. The Rams?

 

[awwsome]

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Anybody can be racist, when has somebody said otherwise?

 

[awwsome]

awwsome who's you team man. The Rams?

Giants, fortunately/unfortunately.

 

[the collector]

Anybody can be racist, when has somebody said otherwise?

Nobody has. I'm just sharing my thoughts independent of what's being discussed.

 

[northoaklandfc]

 

 

 People fail to realize that a minority does not share the same opinions of the majority.  A few racist cops suddenly means all cops are racist... all cops are racist turns into all white people are racist... then we're just raising another generation based on hate. Nothing will change from that.

But you don't even have the life experience or world view to remotely understand what you're talking about. 

Yeah, I also don't experience racism period because my generation isn't founded on racism or counter-racism. Hopefully everyone else will learn to realize that neither of those solve anything and we'll be able to move on.  All that's happening now will just further dig the hole for everyone.

What does this even mean? What does you don't experience racism period mean? Are you saying categorically that you deny that it exist in the United States? Or do you mean it's doesn't affect you personally?

I can't lie, I'm very curious how in 18 years, you've managed to figure out some very deep seeded and complex social issues that a lot of bright minds have been trying to understand for generations. 

 

As stated previously, the "Moral Fabrics" comment is what irked me. That's ridiculous. Multitudes more opportunities and equalities here than anywhere else in the world.

Stop getting worked up, take a deep breath, and try to think critically.  The moral fabric comment irks you because you took it personally. That's not a good start.

Opportunity and moral fabric are two completely separate ideas. They're not even directly related, I'm confused why you've taken a stance that implies the two are mutually exclusive. 

 

[the collector]

Giants, fortunately/unfortunately.

Oh lawd not the Littles. SMH

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Am I the only one who never heard of Peyton being called Sheriff before last year?

 

[IATT]

 

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Anybody can be racist, when has somebody said otherwise?

I hate when the term "reverse racism" is used

 

[EddieDoyers]

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Anybody can be racist, when has somebody said otherwise?

Lol i remember getting into a debate with mr Marcus about it a couple years ago
He said black people can never be racist and I was like really? I think there will always be some people of a race that share hatred of another or even of themselves.

 

[awwsome]

What does this even mean? What does you don't experience racism period mean? Are you saying categorically that you deny that it exist in the United States? Or do you mean it's doesn't affect you personally?

I can't lie, I'm very curious how in 18 years, you've managed to figure out some very deep seeded and complex social issues that a lot of bright minds have been trying to understand for generations. 





Stop getting worked up, take a deep breath, and try to think critically.  The moral fabric comment irks you because you took it personally. That's not a good start.

Opportunity and moral fabric are two completely separate ideas. They're not even directly related, I'm confused why you've taken a stance that implies the two are mutually exclusive. 

You right but you wasting your time my g.

You can't lead or teach the blind and ignorant especially if they are a teenager with self awareness issues.


There's much better convo regarding this going on in the Kaep thread in General btw.

 

[northoaklandfc]

 

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Thank you for articulating my thoughts eloquently and non-combatively.

Prepare to be onslaught because I agree with you and nobody cares about my opinion or anything. 

Sorry man but this post deserves to be called out for the disingenuous bull **** that it is. 

This is NOT what you've written entire paragraphs about in the last 10 minutes. 

Don't play victim now. 

 

[silverbackhoney]

 

 

 

 People fail to realize that a minority does not share the same opinions of the majority.  A few racist cops suddenly means all cops are racist... all cops are racist turns into all white people are racist... then we're just raising another generation based on hate. Nothing will change from that.

But you don't even have the life experience or world view to remotely understand what you're talking about. 

Yeah, I also don't experience racism period because my generation isn't founded on racism or counter-racism. Hopefully everyone else will learn to realize that neither of those solve anything and we'll be able to move on.  All that's happening now will just further dig the hole for everyone.

What does this even mean? What does you don't experience racism period mean? Like do you know deny it exist? Or do you mean it's doesn't affect you? I can't lie, I'm curious how in 18 years you managed to figure out some very deep seeded social issues that a lot of bright minds have been trying to understand for generations. 

It's not as common in my generation as generations before mine. None of the people I graduated high school with were overt racists in either direction. Everyone got along, there was no bringing up race in a negative light in any direction.  The occasional racist joke, but there was never much hate in any group of people my age. This is coming from someone in central Virginia with roughly half of the students in my school being either rednecks, black, or mexican. People were treated as people and not as part of a section of people.

I rarely see people my age bring up racism or have an issue with someone else based on race.  The only incident that comes to mind was a bunch of kids (probably 15) heckling this dude playing music at the downtown mall here.

We never had someone going around saying stuff like

You can't lead or teach the blind and ignorant especially if they are a teenager with self awareness issues.

So I guess we were just raised and taught by more intelligent, caring individuals.

Not everyone felt the need to constantly toot their own horn to pretend to be more intellectually superior than their peers.

 

[sb]

So glad that football's officially back today

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It also means that Ray Lewis is back on TV spewing some nonsense

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[silverbackhoney]

 

 

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Thank you for articulating my thoughts eloquently and non-combatively.

Prepare to be onslaught because I agree with you and nobody cares about my opinion or anything. 

Sorry man but this post deserves to be called out for the disingenuous bull **** that it is. 

This is NOT what you've written entire paragraphs about in the last 10 minutes. 

Don't play victim now. 

I'm not playing victim, I'm not that type of person. I just told him to prepare for people like you and awwsome to raise a piss fit about it again

I'm the last dude playing a victim. I have nothing to prove to any of you. Not a thing.

And yeah, I actually did say something about combating racial bias with further racial bias not fixing anything. Was buried in my posts saying that being a **** to try to fix inequality won't solve any issues.

 

[northoaklandfc]

 

[northoaklandfc]

 

 

 

I agree with that. I've had black friends who have stated all white people are the devil. They are using racism to combat racism. I check them like I would any other person. Whites in America aren't the only one with racial bias.

Thank you for articulating my thoughts eloquently and non-combatively.

Prepare to be onslaught because I agree with you and nobody cares about my opinion or anything. 

Sorry man but this post deserves to be called out for the disingenuous bull **** that it is. 

This is NOT what you've written entire paragraphs about in the last 10 minutes. 

Don't play victim now. 

I'm not playing victim, I'm not that type of person. I just told him to prepare for people like you and awwsome to raise a piss fit about it again

I'm the last dude playing a victim. I have nothing to prove to any of you. Not a thing.

And yeah, I actually did say something about combating racial bias with further racial bias not fixing anything. Was buried in my posts saying that being a **** to try to fix inequality won't solve any issues.

You are playing the victim you just don't have the self awareness to realize it. You're literally talking about being the subject of an onslaught.  Equating a discussion to a piss fit because people don't agree with you. 

 You're young and misguided but you were actually handling yourself with a little bit of maturity up until a post or two ago. 

 You can't lead or teach the blind and ignorant especially if they are a teenager with self awareness issues.


There's much better convo regarding this going on in the Kaep thread in General btw.

True I don't mean to take away from football discussion anyway, I'll have to check it out and learn a thing or two. 

 

[the collector]

Lol i remember getting into a debate with mr Marcus about it a couple years ago
He said black people can never be racist and I was like really? I think there will always be some people of a race that share hatred of another or even of themselves.

There are cases of self hate throughout the black community. For example parents who put clothes pins on their kids noses while little to not grow as big. Stacy Dash is a prime example or even Ben Carson. We just had a Hispanic guy who agrees with Trump say Trump will prevent a taco stand from being on every corner.

 

[rolaholic]

Lol i remember getting into a debate with mr Marcus about it a couple years ago
He said black people can never be racist and I was like really? I think there will always be some people of a race that share hatred of another or even of themselves.

There are cases of self hate throughout the black community. For example parents who put clothes pins on their kids noses while little to not grow as big. Stacy Dash is a prime example or even Ben Carson. We just had a Hispanic guy who agrees with Trump say Trump will prevent a taco stand from being on every corner.

Wait what? This is a a thing?