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Agreed. That seems a little ridiculous considering Saric was a 12 and 6 guy as a rookie and two other top 5 picks.
If that is remotely close to the ask I'm telling Ainge to go jump off a cliff.
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If that is remotely close to the ask I'm telling Ainge to go jump off a cliff.
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Yeah I mean, y'all would have to give Boston some actual incentive to trade away the best player in the draft who they are infatuated with....
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Even with Simmons running the offense they still need a regular PG for defense and secondary ball handling purposes
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#3 & Okafor. Take it or leave it.
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Hahah then it won't. We aren't trading the best player in the draft for some pupu platter. If you want him, you'd have to pay up.
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Boston would do that in a heartbeat IMO
Saric or 2018 pick and #3??
**** they can have #2 for all of that package too.
Saric or 2018 pick and #3??
**** they can have #2 for all of that package too.
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If you're 6'8" 208 with a 6'9" wingspan, yea if you can't shoot you're probably not going to be any good.
This. Shooting is great and it makes life easier but there's plenty of stars and really good players that are bad to average shooters.
If you can't shoot, you can't play
If you're 7 feet tall, 7 foot wingspan with the agility of a quick 3, then that may not be the case.
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What if you're 6'7 with a 6'7 wingspan like Jimmy Butler?
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The same Jimmy who shot 86% from the free throw line this year?
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Stringer was a good FT shooter in college too
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OK we're gonna have to define "can't shoot" if Jimmy doesn't fit that category.
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As much as I wouldn't want to, I'd do #3, LA's 2018 and Okafor for #1. I'd absolutely hate it, but that's what it would take.
Boston has all the leverage because I believe they think they'll win in free agency (Hayward), have a big trade piece in IT, and would be perfectly fine taking Fultz at 1. They don't have any pressure to do anything.
Meanwhile Philadelphia is between a rock and a hard place. Everyone knows they want to move up or move down and that Jackson (#3 prospect) isn't a need for them. Getting anyone else would be a reach.
Boston has all the leverage because I believe they think they'll win in free agency (Hayward), have a big trade piece in IT, and would be perfectly fine taking Fultz at 1. They don't have any pressure to do anything.
Meanwhile Philadelphia is between a rock and a hard place. Everyone knows they want to move up or move down and that Jackson (#3 prospect) isn't a need for them. Getting anyone else would be a reach.
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Yeah the same All-NBA one who never once in his three year college career averaged more points, rebounds, assists, steals or blocks than Josh Jackson averaged in his freshman year. He also didn't make one single three pointer his entire freshman year at Marquette and shot 34% from three his junior year.
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You would have to swap Saric for Okafor before we start talking. Okafor plays no defense and doesn't rebound. Boston already has a big coming in next year that does both at a pretty high level. Okafor's offense is solid, but he doesn't fit Stevens' scheme at all.
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Okafor sucks
we'll take Lucky the Leprechaun for him
we'll take Lucky the Leprechaun for him
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I see Philly fans saying they'd take Fox at 3 but I don't see how that would work. Fox doesn't seem like he'd be effective off-ball.
Josh Jackson would be a great fit.
Simmons would line up at the 4 correct? With Saric coming off the bench?
Josh Jackson would be a great fit.
Simmons would line up at the 4 correct? With Saric coming off the bench?
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Jimmy Butler is the exception, not the rule.
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Jimmy is the new Jason Kidd
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This. Shooting is great and it makes life easier but there's plenty of stars and really good players that are bad to average shooters.
If you can't shoot, you can't play
Josh Jackson is pretty long way off from being an average shooter.
and Jimmy Butler, is out here taking tough attempts, so his raw percentages don't tell the whole story.
also jimmy was and 78% FT shooter in college.
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he was a poor shooter in high school, he was a poor shooter on every single jumpshot type, other than 3P% in college, his mechanics aren't good. I don't know what more proof you need.
He could learn to shoot, but can't say it's likely.
I think he can get to the point where he's servicable like Iggy.
This. Shooting is great and it makes life easier but there's plenty of stars and really good players that are bad to average shooters.
If you can't shoot, you can't play
sorry let me fix that.
If you can't shoot, you can't play unless you are a 7'0 tall freak of nature with go gadget arms and legs, and insane athletism/coordiation.
happy now?
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Jackson reminds me of bigger Kidd Glichrist with more offensive skills
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Using people in the thread and you as the analysts saying he's better doesn't mean much
I watched JJ multiple times his senior year out here in person, and enough of Kansas to come to my conclusion. I meant offensive skills, he doesn't have a single move outside of his step back. He plays more emotional but I've seen him get thrown off because he can get too emotional during a game. And my little brother graduated from his hs a year before he got there so he's got people that have told him stories about how he his and that "dog" you speak of is more show than anything
Dude is incredibly into his image and Napa only made that worse. He told his hs friends that teachers stop lectures when anyone from the bball team walks by and let's the entire class take pictures and **** with him I don't think he's gonna be a bust by any means but Christ you've been riding him hard.
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A bit unfair to compare Josh Jackson's freshman year to Wiggin's freshan year. Jackson older than Wiggins by a full year.
Same age Josh averaging 16.3, 7.3, 3 in Kansas, Wiggins was averaging 17, 4.6, 2.1 in the NBA as a rook.
Wiggins more talented offensively no doubt, but Josh more well rounded
Same age Josh averaging 16.3, 7.3, 3 in Kansas, Wiggins was averaging 17, 4.6, 2.1 in the NBA as a rook.
Wiggins more talented offensively no doubt, but Josh more well rounded
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Am I the only one who thinks the idea that people cant learn to shoot is ridiculous? I understand that it is harder to change your shot as you get older, but 99% of shooting is working on Form and repetition. Its not like people are born with great jumpshots, most people work their ***** off for it.
I mean John Wall shot 7 ******* percent from three in 2011 and has been at 30-35% for the last 4 years. While they may never become a great shooter, becoming a 33-35% shooter is nothing to scoff at.
Larry Nance JR had one of the most broke looking jumpshots I have ever seen coming out of college and now he is in the process of becoming a serviceable three point shooter.
I mean John Wall shot 7 ******* percent from three in 2011 and has been at 30-35% for the last 4 years. While they may never become a great shooter, becoming a 33-35% shooter is nothing to scoff at.
Larry Nance JR had one of the most broke looking jumpshots I have ever seen coming out of college and now he is in the process of becoming a serviceable three point shooter.
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