The NBA Draft Thread

[Moheezy]

Flashbacks of Dante Exum with this Frank kid.

In what way? Do you mean n a way that he is an international man of mystery? Then yes.

The biggest disappointment about Exum is that he is so one dimensional on offence. He doesn't shoot and he always goes right. Just take a look at his career high game highlights. It will tell you everything you need to know about his offensive game,

 

[outsidethabox]

That's the problem I have with monk..He doesn't seem to have as high of a ceiling of the rest of the players he's grouped with..But he almost fit like a glove with the sixers..When I'm drafting that high I want the guy to to have more upside..Really wish Simmons played this year..so we could see how he worked off the ball and maybe being that 2nd ball handler..that gives us so many more options..I hope we can somehow land Jackson.

 

[dat dude chris]

Monk is like a Rip Hamilton x Lou Williams x JR Smith hybrid

Im down with that

What are Monks measurements btw? He looks about 6'4" and hes got some broad but skinny shoulders for a guard

 

[geno90221]

Im down with that

What are Monks measurements btw? He looks about 6'4" and hes got some broad but skinny shoulders for a guard

6-3 200

 

[dat dude chris]

That's the problem I have with monk..He doesn't seem to have as high of a ceiling of the rest of the players he's grouped with..But he almost fit like a glove with the sixers..When I'm drafting that high I want the guy to to have more upside..Really wish Simmons played this year..so we could see how he worked off the ball and maybe being that 2nd ball handler..that gives us so many more options..I hope we can somehow land Jackson.

Im down with any of these players...Fultz, Jackson, Monk, Fox and even Tatum, DSJr & Isaac

Fultz would obviously be the best, Monk would be best fit & i think Isaac has the highest upside but biggest chance of being a bust as well

Unless we somehow fall outta the top 10, the Sixers SHOULD be getting someone who can contribute almost immediately in one way or another

Just keep Ball & Ntilikina away from us. Ntilikina scares me cuz i know how much BC loves foreign players so we pass on any of them players i named for him I'd be sick :x

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Fultz
Jackson
Ball


All got huge ceilings. It will be interesting looking back at this draft 3 - 4 years from now.

 

[buc em]

Im down with any of these players...Fultz, Jackson, Monk, Fox and even Tatum, DSJr & Isaac

Fultz would obviously be the best, Monk would be best fit & i think Isaac has the highest upside but biggest chance of being a bust as well

Unless we somehow fall outta the top 10, the Sixers SHOULD be getting someone who can contribute almost immediately in one way or another

Just keep Ball & Ntilikina away from us. Ntilikina scares me cuz i know how much BC loves foreign players so we pass on any of them players i named for him I'd be sick :x

I'm down for any of them but I actually have came around to Frank as well. I personally like what I've seen of him much more than what I saw of Exum. I was never that impressed with Exum and didn't see the hype other than him just being a tall athletic point guard. Frank has the measurements of an elite point guard prospect but can also really shoot the ball, can be an elite defender and can play off the ball with Simmons pushing the ball. Really I'm down for any of the top guys besides Lauri or maybe Isaac...I like both of them but Dario and Ben should hopefully be splitting the minutes at the 3 and 4 for the next decade.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Would be interesting if Philly is somehow forced to select Fox or Smith

 

[ill steelo]

Rip is a great comparison actually. He's like a modern day version of Rip.

True shooting guard in every sense of the word.

Perfect fit in Philly with all those guys who like to handle the ball.

 

[geno90221]

Rip is a great comparison actually. He's like a modern day version of Rip.

True shooting guard in every sense of the word.

Perfect fit in Philly with all those guys who like to handle the ball.

Size not a issue too you?

 

[ill steelo]

That's a valid question. 6'3" mediocre wingspan, and skinny.

Very valid.

 

[B Sox]

Rip was 6'6" though.

 

[ill steelo]

Playing styles can still be similar

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

The thing that holds me back from the RIP projection is that RIP developed into one of the best midrange shooters.. do you guys see Monk being that? Also Monk is a much different athlete than RIP was, RIP's cardio was insane and he was elite athletically but in a different way, certainly below the rim. Monk can attack the rim as well as any prospect in the class, RIP was never that kind of above the rim player.. 

I see the comparison in that they both aren't really ball handlers but that's about it.. not to mention RIP was legit taller than Monk is, as is JR Smith. Can't really rock with the Lou comp due to Lou being smaller and capable of playing point guard 

I think the Ben Gordon comparison is a good starting point if anything

 

[addict4sneakers]

I don't see how his physique will hinder him. There are only a handful of big 2s in the league.

He needs to be able to consistently make shots and then figure out how to get to the line

 

[MVP]

As I said months ago he's JR with a brain.

 

[dman14]

Got a Marshon brooks vibe? Maybe not as vesatile of a scorer

 

[ill steelo]

The thing that holds me back from the RIP projection is that RIP developed into one of the best midrange shooters.. do you guys see Monk being that? Also Monk is a much different athlete than RIP was, RIP's cardio was insane and he was elite athletically but in a different way, certainly below the rim. Monk can attack the rim as well as any prospect in the class, RIP was never that kind of above the rim player.. 

I see the comparison in that they both aren't really ball handlers but that's about it.. not to mention RIP was legit taller than Monk is, as is JR Smith. Can't really rock with the Lou comp due to Lou being smaller and capable of playing point guard 

I think the Ben Gordon comparison is a good starting point if anything

"Modern day version of Rip" = Rip coming off screens shooting mostly 3s instead of 2s. Should've been clearer I guess. I thought the modern day bit got that point across.

Considering where his shot is at 19, I see no reason why he can't be an elite high volume guy from 3.

As far as attacking the rim, only 21% of Monk's attempts came there: http://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php

That's a little less than what Rip was doing in Detroit. I mean, I don't see any material difference in that aspect when looking at their games.

The cardio aspect is something that can & will undoubtedly be improved upon after several offseasons. I'm not worried about his conditioning in his prime years at all.

I'm not mad at a Gordon comparison either, but he played with the ball a little more than I think Monk will in the league.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

If we're ignoring size, and jumping off two feet instead of one, I recall someone making a Jason Richardson comp in here

Monk put up similar numbers as a frosh to Richardson's soph year however Richardson came straight out of the gates putting up numbers in the pros. They give me a similar vibe offensively 

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

"Modern day version of Rip" = Rip coming off screens shooting mostly 3s instead of 2s. Should've been clearer I guess. I thought the modern day bit got that point across.

Considering where his shot is at 19, I see no reason why he can't be an elite high volume guy from 3.

As far as attacking the rim, only 21% of Monk's attempts came there: http://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php

That's a little less than what Rip was doing in Detroit. I mean, I don't see any material difference in that aspect when looking at their games.

The cardio aspect is something that can & will undoubtedly be improved upon after several offseasons. I'm not worried about his conditioning in his prime years at all.

I'm not mad at a Gordon comparison either, but he played with the ball a little more than I think Monk will in the league.

Good find on the attack rim stat, just saying, when you look at them athletically they certainly have a contrast. One played below one can play above

Monk already seems to have good cardio as well, more so I was stating the type of athlete I viewed RIP, which was that he can run all day just not be the vertical athlete Monk is

In terms of in the half court, play to play I do believe Monk will be mostly off ball. So like I noted, I do see where RIP vibes come into play

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Rip played defense

 

[ill steelo]

Based on what?

Throughout his career his teams performed better defensively when he was off the floor.

Rip certainly wasn't a sieve but Monk becoming the defender that Rip was should be the least of anyone's concerns

 

[B Sox]

I was listening to Simmons pod a couple days ago, and they were talking about how Monk compares to Devin Booker, where Kentucky's system and how he's used isn't necessarily allowing Monk to show you everything he's capable of. Where they didn't really let either player be a primary ball handler in the PnR. Towns didn't get to play on the perimeter, etc. Something to think about I guess...

 

[pmatic]

NBA mock draft 2017: Lonzo Ball falls, De’Aaron Fox rises after NCAA tournament showcase

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/3/...draft-2017-lonzo-ball-deaaron-ncaa-tournament

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Finally, a mock that has Ball and Isaac in alternative spots