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Stop... Just stop....
The Obama effect
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Stop... Just stop....
nat turner
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AntonLaVey wrote: Alight man this is clearly getting nowhere,
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Sad but true. You complain, but offer no solutions.
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AntonLaVey wrote: all I ask for is that Jesse Jackson and the NAACP stops reaching and focus on real issues. That's it.
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All you ask? Apparently, you don't have to worry about where next meal is coming from. You opinion comes from the immigrants perception of America, being here by choice. You think and speak like someone who has not had to deal with the adverse effects of racism in America. For many dealing racism is a fact of life, therefore making people like Jesse Jackson incredibly relevant in this country, then in places like South Carolina where the confederate flag still waves, then in NYC, where the Fire Department still practices exclusion due to race.*
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AntonLaVey wrote: I'm racist, now go away.
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Glad that you could admit that but unfortunately, I am not here for you.
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AntonLaVey wrote: If you like arguing against racists, take your behind to storm front where the real racists are.
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And where would that be? I mean....do you know where they are really hiding? Because you seem to think that only you'll know what a real racist is!
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AntonLaVey wrote: Step your game up.
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Do you really think that you are in any position to even suggest this?
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Racial discrimination cited by Judge in NY Fire Department
Updated on Thursday, January 14, 2010, 13:46 IST
"It was a part of a pattern, practice and policy of intentional discrimination against black applicants that has deep historical antecedents and uniquely disabling effects," wrote Judge Nicholas G Garaufis in his decision.
"This decision represents a major victory for all minority citizens of New York City who have been denied employment because of their race, colour or national origin," said Richard Levy, lead counsel in the case.
"The City has kept blinders tightly in place to avoid recognising and dealing with a problem of discrimination that has been shockingly clear to all citizens of New York," he said adding, the Fire Department has been a virtually all White club since its inception many decades ago and no one in City government has seen fit to address the issue.
Last year, Judge Garaufis ruled that the qualifying written exam that is administered excludes black applicants to maintain a predominantly white force. "This pattern of under-representation has remained essentially unchanged since at least the 1960s," he said. The case was filed by the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of the Vulcan Society that represents black firefighters in New York.
"We're glad to see the justice system verify what we've known for the longest time, that the Fire Department is hostile to hiring blacks. We hope this means 145 years of racism in the New York City Fire Dept will now come to an end," said Paul Washington, former president of the Vulcan Society.
According to the CCR website, as of October 2007, black and Hispanic firefighters comprised only 3.4 and 6.7 percent of the FDNY, respectively but the combined black and Hispanic population of New York City comprises over half its total population.
"It is the city's view that there is simply no evidence that the city ever intended to discriminate against black applicants," the official, Georgia Pestana, a city lawyer, said.
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Sad but true. You complain, but offer no solutions.
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AntonLaVey wrote: all I ask for is that Jesse Jackson and the NAACP stops reaching and focus on real issues. That's it.
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All you ask? Apparently, you don't have to worry about where next meal is coming from. You opinion comes from the immigrants perception of America, being here by choice. You think and speak like someone who has not had to deal with the adverse effects of racism in America. For many dealing racism is a fact of life, therefore making people like Jesse Jackson incredibly relevant in this country, then in places like South Carolina where the confederate flag still waves, then in NYC, where the Fire Department still practices exclusion due to race.*
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AntonLaVey wrote: I'm racist, now go away.
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Glad that you could admit that but unfortunately, I am not here for you.
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AntonLaVey wrote: If you like arguing against racists, take your behind to storm front where the real racists are.
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And where would that be? I mean....do you know where they are really hiding? Because you seem to think that only you'll know what a real racist is!
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AntonLaVey wrote: Step your game up.
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Do you really think that you are in any position to even suggest this?
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Racial discrimination cited by Judge in NY Fire Department
Updated on Thursday, January 14, 2010, 13:46 IST
"It was a part of a pattern, practice and policy of intentional discrimination against black applicants that has deep historical antecedents and uniquely disabling effects," wrote Judge Nicholas G Garaufis in his decision.
"This decision represents a major victory for all minority citizens of New York City who have been denied employment because of their race, colour or national origin," said Richard Levy, lead counsel in the case.
"The City has kept blinders tightly in place to avoid recognising and dealing with a problem of discrimination that has been shockingly clear to all citizens of New York," he said adding, the Fire Department has been a virtually all White club since its inception many decades ago and no one in City government has seen fit to address the issue.
Last year, Judge Garaufis ruled that the qualifying written exam that is administered excludes black applicants to maintain a predominantly white force. "This pattern of under-representation has remained essentially unchanged since at least the 1960s," he said. The case was filed by the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of the Vulcan Society that represents black firefighters in New York.
"We're glad to see the justice system verify what we've known for the longest time, that the Fire Department is hostile to hiring blacks. We hope this means 145 years of racism in the New York City Fire Dept will now come to an end," said Paul Washington, former president of the Vulcan Society.
According to the CCR website, as of October 2007, black and Hispanic firefighters comprised only 3.4 and 6.7 percent of the FDNY, respectively but the combined black and Hispanic population of New York City comprises over half its total population.
"It is the city's view that there is simply no evidence that the city ever intended to discriminate against black applicants," the official, Georgia Pestana, a city lawyer, said.
nat turner
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AntonLaVey wrote: Alight man this is clearly getting nowhere,
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Sad but true. You complain, but offer no solutions.
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AntonLaVey wrote: all I ask for is that Jesse Jackson and the NAACP stops reaching and focus on real issues. That's it.
___
All you ask? Apparently, you don't have to worry about where next meal is coming from. You opinion comes from the immigrants perception of America, being here by choice. You think and speak like someone who has not had to deal with the adverse effects of racism in America. For many dealing racism is a fact of life, therefore making people like Jesse Jackson incredibly relevant in this country, then in places like South Carolina where the confederate flag still waves, then in NYC, where the Fire Department still practices exclusion due to race.*
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AntonLaVey wrote: I'm racist, now go away.
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Glad that you could admit that but unfortunately, I am not here for you.
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AntonLaVey wrote: If you like arguing against racists, take your behind to storm front where the real racists are.
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And where would that be? I mean....do you know where they are really hiding? Because you seem to think that only you'll know what a real racist is!
___
AntonLaVey wrote: Step your game up.
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Do you really think that you are in any position to even suggest this?
*
Racial discrimination cited by Judge in NY Fire Department
Updated on Thursday, January 14, 2010, 13:46 IST
"It was a part of a pattern, practice and policy of intentional discrimination against black applicants that has deep historical antecedents and uniquely disabling effects," wrote Judge Nicholas G Garaufis in his decision.
"This decision represents a major victory for all minority citizens of New York City who have been denied employment because of their race, colour or national origin," said Richard Levy, lead counsel in the case.
"The City has kept blinders tightly in place to avoid recognising and dealing with a problem of discrimination that has been shockingly clear to all citizens of New York," he said adding, the Fire Department has been a virtually all White club since its inception many decades ago and no one in City government has seen fit to address the issue.
Last year, Judge Garaufis ruled that the qualifying written exam that is administered excludes black applicants to maintain a predominantly white force. "This pattern of under-representation has remained essentially unchanged since at least the 1960s," he said. The case was filed by the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of the Vulcan Society that represents black firefighters in New York.
"We're glad to see the justice system verify what we've known for the longest time, that the Fire Department is hostile to hiring blacks. We hope this means 145 years of racism in the New York City Fire Dept will now come to an end," said Paul Washington, former president of the Vulcan Society.
According to the CCR website, as of October 2007, black and Hispanic firefighters comprised only 3.4 and 6.7 percent of the FDNY, respectively but the combined black and Hispanic population of New York City comprises over half its total population.
"It is the city's view that there is simply no evidence that the city ever intended to discriminate against black applicants," the official, Georgia Pestana, a city lawyer, said.
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Sad but true. You complain, but offer no solutions.
___
AntonLaVey wrote: all I ask for is that Jesse Jackson and the NAACP stops reaching and focus on real issues. That's it.
___
All you ask? Apparently, you don't have to worry about where next meal is coming from. You opinion comes from the immigrants perception of America, being here by choice. You think and speak like someone who has not had to deal with the adverse effects of racism in America. For many dealing racism is a fact of life, therefore making people like Jesse Jackson incredibly relevant in this country, then in places like South Carolina where the confederate flag still waves, then in NYC, where the Fire Department still practices exclusion due to race.*
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AntonLaVey wrote: I'm racist, now go away.
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Glad that you could admit that but unfortunately, I am not here for you.
___
AntonLaVey wrote: If you like arguing against racists, take your behind to storm front where the real racists are.
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And where would that be? I mean....do you know where they are really hiding? Because you seem to think that only you'll know what a real racist is!
___
AntonLaVey wrote: Step your game up.
___
Do you really think that you are in any position to even suggest this?
*
Racial discrimination cited by Judge in NY Fire Department
Updated on Thursday, January 14, 2010, 13:46 IST
"It was a part of a pattern, practice and policy of intentional discrimination against black applicants that has deep historical antecedents and uniquely disabling effects," wrote Judge Nicholas G Garaufis in his decision.
"This decision represents a major victory for all minority citizens of New York City who have been denied employment because of their race, colour or national origin," said Richard Levy, lead counsel in the case.
"The City has kept blinders tightly in place to avoid recognising and dealing with a problem of discrimination that has been shockingly clear to all citizens of New York," he said adding, the Fire Department has been a virtually all White club since its inception many decades ago and no one in City government has seen fit to address the issue.
Last year, Judge Garaufis ruled that the qualifying written exam that is administered excludes black applicants to maintain a predominantly white force. "This pattern of under-representation has remained essentially unchanged since at least the 1960s," he said. The case was filed by the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of the Vulcan Society that represents black firefighters in New York.
"We're glad to see the justice system verify what we've known for the longest time, that the Fire Department is hostile to hiring blacks. We hope this means 145 years of racism in the New York City Fire Dept will now come to an end," said Paul Washington, former president of the Vulcan Society.
According to the CCR website, as of October 2007, black and Hispanic firefighters comprised only 3.4 and 6.7 percent of the FDNY, respectively but the combined black and Hispanic population of New York City comprises over half its total population.
"It is the city's view that there is simply no evidence that the city ever intended to discriminate against black applicants," the official, Georgia Pestana, a city lawyer, said.
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Nothing different. People come at me with extremes. They're either friendly or they treat me like a hoodlum.
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Nothing different. People come at me with extremes. They're either friendly or they treat me like a hoodlum.
antonlavey
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^^^Go to stormfront, I'm converted bro......white people are racist, yadayadayada. Go preach to someone else. Geez.
I can rest assured that I'm doing my part as single human-being to be of service to humanity and the less fortunate, many of which happen to be black people. Going this hard to make sure someone doesn't see racism in every situation won't make a difference. Go preach to racist white people.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Put yourself to good work...leave people who actually want to help the less fortunate alone.
I can rest assured that I'm doing my part as single human-being to be of service to humanity and the less fortunate, many of which happen to be black people. Going this hard to make sure someone doesn't see racism in every situation won't make a difference. Go preach to racist white people.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Put yourself to good work...leave people who actually want to help the less fortunate alone.
antonlavey
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^^^Go to stormfront, I'm converted bro......white people are racist, yadayadayada. Go preach to someone else. Geez.
I can rest assured that I'm doing my part as single human-being to be of service to humanity and the less fortunate, many of which happen to be black people. Going this hard to make sure someone doesn't see racism in every situation won't make a difference. Go preach to racist white people.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Put yourself to good work...leave people who actually want to help the less fortunate alone.
I can rest assured that I'm doing my part as single human-being to be of service to humanity and the less fortunate, many of which happen to be black people. Going this hard to make sure someone doesn't see racism in every situation won't make a difference. Go preach to racist white people.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Put yourself to good work...leave people who actually want to help the less fortunate alone.
antonlavey
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Today in a thread I mentioned the government addressing some racial disparities that exist in allocation of educational funds and quality teachers in socially economically disadvantaged areas.
Health disparities between racial and socioeconomic groups is one of the biggest reasons for my support for Obama and his healthcare plan.
Go away....go argue with real racists. Unless you're not up to it :/
antonlavey
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Today in a thread I mentioned the government addressing some racial disparities that exist in allocation of educational funds and quality teachers in socially economically disadvantaged areas.
Health disparities between racial and socioeconomic groups is one of the biggest reasons for my support for Obama and his healthcare plan.
Go away....go argue with real racists. Unless you're not up to it :/
nat turner
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AntonLaVey wrote: Go away....go argue with real racists. Unless you're not up to it :/
AntonLaVey wrote: Again, there's no such thing as a half-way racist....
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Which one is it?
Why don't you simply change your name to Clayton Bigsby?
AntonLaVey wrote: Again, there's no such thing as a half-way racist....
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Which one is it?
Why don't you simply change your name to Clayton Bigsby?
nat turner
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AntonLaVey wrote: Go away....go argue with real racists. Unless you're not up to it :/
AntonLaVey wrote: Again, there's no such thing as a half-way racist....
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Which one is it?
Why don't you simply change your name to Clayton Bigsby?
AntonLaVey wrote: Again, there's no such thing as a half-way racist....
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Which one is it?
Why don't you simply change your name to Clayton Bigsby?
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You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
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You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
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This seems like an interesting hypothesis. I'm posting for later.
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This seems like an interesting hypothesis. I'm posting for later.
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Same here, except Asian people. They be OD scared of me.
I don't even have any tattoos,
My roommate's wife and 8 y/o daughter were up here just a few days ago and she was like that. First time I ever saw her was when I was going to the store and I looked up and noticed the balcony door was open. I was thinking to myself, "did I open the balcony door? that's strange," so I go back up to close it before I leave and I notice 4 little eyes pearing at me from the blinds of the adjacent window and the door closes then I realized, "oh, guess his wife and daughter is here already." Then every time I come in the house, if they're in the living room, they just run into his room and close the door, leave the toys and everything
*!+# was hilarious to me, but i'm glad they're gone because it would have been a problem eventually. I'm not about to be made to feel like a criminal somewhere I pay rent too. The only Asian ladies who seem to not be scared of me are the ones who I let ##$+ up my hairline biweekly
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Same here, except Asian people. They be OD scared of me.
I don't even have any tattoos,
My roommate's wife and 8 y/o daughter were up here just a few days ago and she was like that. First time I ever saw her was when I was going to the store and I looked up and noticed the balcony door was open. I was thinking to myself, "did I open the balcony door? that's strange," so I go back up to close it before I leave and I notice 4 little eyes pearing at me from the blinds of the adjacent window and the door closes then I realized, "oh, guess his wife and daughter is here already." Then every time I come in the house, if they're in the living room, they just run into his room and close the door, leave the toys and everything
*!+# was hilarious to me, but i'm glad they're gone because it would have been a problem eventually. I'm not about to be made to feel like a criminal somewhere I pay rent too. The only Asian ladies who seem to not be scared of me are the ones who I let ##$+ up my hairline biweekly
antonlavey
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LOL I love how u refuse to acknowledge the fact that I have a lot of views/actions that are simply NOT racist...like I said go Storm Front stop arguing with people that aren't a threat and are actually making an attempt to do some good.
If I were a white guy in the KKK I would literally be the worst racist ever. What kinda racist doesn't think people should be police profile. Come on son. Stop pulling a Jesse Jackson and take your annoying preaching to where it matters.
GO TO STORM FRONT.
Anton: Racial and socioeconomic disparities exist in healthcare and should be addressed
Nat Turner: Clayton Bigsby
antonlavey
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LOL I love how u refuse to acknowledge the fact that I have a lot of views/actions that are simply NOT racist...like I said go Storm Front stop arguing with people that aren't a threat and are actually making an attempt to do some good.
If I were a white guy in the KKK I would literally be the worst racist ever. What kinda racist doesn't think people should be police profile. Come on son. Stop pulling a Jesse Jackson and take your annoying preaching to where it matters.
GO TO STORM FRONT.
Anton: Racial and socioeconomic disparities exist in healthcare and should be addressed
Nat Turner: Clayton Bigsby
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basicallyOriginally Posted by wawaweewa
You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
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basicallyOriginally Posted by wawaweewa
You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
antonlavey
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Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
antonlavey
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Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
You just proved his point. Your view is pretty pidgeonholed since he was talking about the concept of race historically and not just in America.Originally Posted by Essential1
Stop... Just stop....
If you think race & racism is not a problem in America.
"Ethnicity" is a human construct that has historically been used to divide and conquer or maintain the status quo for those in power.
nat turner
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AntonLaVey wrote: LOL I love how u refuse to acknowledge the fact that I have a lot of views/actions that are simply NOT racist...
But you are now acknowledging that you have issues with Black people and their culture, right? You, an immigrant to this country, was raised with and around white people, then white culture, correct? You are one who is here by choice, then have a different reality than those who are the children of slaves.. So how exactly are you qualifed to suggest what WE should do again? You are only considered Black due to the color of your skin, but your experience limits you in the connection to those that are still scarred by the struggle for equal rights in this country.
AntonLaVey wrote: like I said go Storm Front stop arguing with people that aren't a threat and are actually making an attempt to do some good.
The racists who visit forums like that are not really that dangerous, much like those who exhibit the same sort of puffery here. However, you are indeed dangerous, and that is due to the position you allow yourself to be put in. You lambaste Black people for wanting unity and accountability for their own, yet you see nothing wrong with White people living with the present conditions, the entitlement, that they are living with.
AntonLaVey wrote: If I were a white guy in the KKK I would literally be the worst racist ever.
Yes, but no. White liberals can be racists too. You connect with being white, more than being Black. This is not a put down, it is just how your were raised, then the culture in which you were raised, then exposed to.
AntonLaVey wrote: What kinda racist doesn't think people should be police profile.
A racist that doesn't want to be profiled himself, just in case he gets pulled over by a Black cop.
AntonLaVey wrote: Come on son. Stop pulling a Jesse Jackson and take your annoying preaching to where it matters.
Annoying? Interesting choice of words. I must be making you take a lookkk in the mirror,
AntonLaVey wrote:GO TO STORM FRONT.People just like arguing racism and never direct their energy where they should.
My energy is directed at remaining in good health, and then well paid. Being able to defeat people such as yourself in debate is really not that hard
AntonLaVey wrote:Anton: Racial and socioeconomic disparities exist in healthcare and should be addressed
Nat Turner: Clayton Bigsby
Just because you admit to the disparity, does not make you aware as to how you feed those who are against a "Black" anything on this board.
