THE OFFICIAL 2024 - 2025 DALLAS COWBOYS SEASON THREAD || 3-5 Next Game 11/10 vs. Eagles

[va757va]

At Least, 4 of our picks should go toward DT/DE/LB, definitely the first 2 rounds. Pass rush will make all the difference with this defense, besides staying healthy. Beef up this front 7, if there is a stud pass rusher, take him.

got to agree..our first round pick has to be an impact day 1 starter on the dline..point blank period..a safety wouldnt hurt either, no matter who is back there, theyre a liability in coverage.  and its been that way for years nd years.

and jerry needs to stop using the mid round picks as luxury picks or experiment picks..its time we start hitting there, you know, like other teams do. lol..its crazy how many cowboys 2-7 round picks dont make an impact or are off the team within 2 or 3 seasons..meanwhile other teams are getting impact with their mid round picks..sumn has to change there.

i think its over for dware. and hes definitely NOT a distraction anymore or a guaranteed double team. the past 2 seasons teams have come to target him, ESPECIALLY in the run game.  How many times have teams ran dwares way cause they knew he would overpursue? or not contain the edge?  i love him to death, but homie has been food out there.  not to mention he doesnt touch qb's anymore. 

carter and claiborne have alot to do with the defenses success next year.  if they continue to struggle, and get done in habitually, so will the D.  BIG BIG time dissapointments for me personally.  Carr as well, he got toasted more nd more as the season went on.

always 1 step forward, 2 back in dallas man..i swear it..

 

[Betonblck]

My ideal draft is:

1. DT - a push up the middle will make Ware look much better and the secondary look like all-pros
2. Next best defensive lineman available. (DT or DE)
3. OG -dominate the line of scrimmage and keep your defense off the field
4. QB - take a shot at developing a QB
5. RB - backup for Murray

Sign a backup ILB in free agency for when Sean Lee gets hurt. Or draft an ILB instead of the RB in round 5 and sign a backup RB in free agency.

 

[T0INE]

@ Rush Hour

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

have yall seen the rushing stats of teams that won in the playoffs?

I know when youre up, you run the ball (thus the stats are a little skewed) but to win, you have to run the ball.

So why would we need to draft a receiver?

what is having one more target on the field going to do with our problem of defense, running the ball, and giving our playmaker (Dez) the ball?

The reason I said I'm ok with drafting a WR is I'm concerned about Dez's health and the fact he might not resign when it's time for an extension.

I'm not saying we have too but I wouldn't be upset if we landed Benjamin or Evans if an impact DLineman or LB isn't available. I don't believe in reaching for a player because it's a position of "need." I rather take the best player on the board.

In my opinion, our window with this team is a season away from closing. It's NFC championship game or bust with this crew next season, anything less then we need to clean house and start all over

 

[ackdaquick]

LB is more of a position of need over WR for me. If we have any money to do anything in free agency, WR would be the position to go that route on. If Miles leaves he is taking the lions-share of experience at that position with him.

 

[jmause3]

Claiborne has to step up. No more passes for him next year. Its time for him to live up to be the player we drafted him to be.

 

[blackboyfly]

I actually think Claiborne hasn't been bad overall. Definitely not #1 defensive player of the draft worthy, but the defense was a heck of a lot better when he was on the field sans the Giants and Broncos games. But he's just another dude on the defense made of glass

 

[va757va]

nah man..claiborne was a target when he was out there...the only time he wasnt is when bw webb was on the field..because he became the victim..

 

[mpire]

I fell for the training camp "were going to commit to the run" rhetoric last year.
Expecting a 1-4 start and all hell is going to break loose at the ranch.

Hey, at least its "entertaining" right?

How a Giants fan came up to me in the pizza shop the other day to say "We had a better season than you." Of course I'm shaking my head in confusion. He then states "we have a better draft pick than you." Smh...

Claiborne definitely wasn't worth the pick for the mere fact that we drafted him to play Man and then we switch schemes. It's been stated that Claiborne isn't too bright so having him learn something brand new he hadn't played in college makes no sense. Signed Carr to play Man and same thing.

I still would draft a G because Ronald Leary does have the degenerative knee condition. The oline ended up being a strength mid season to the end which is awesome because all those guys are young. But you can never have too much talent in the trenches. If you can protect the QB, WR's will eventually get open. This is the only reason I'm against drafting a WR.

 

[chiacrack]

amazing that three straight 8-8 finishes hasn't brought more changes

what will it take? so many people should be fired right now its not even funny anymore

 

[va757va]

Even in man coverage Carr and Claiborne was food. Carr was ok up until he lost his balls in Detroit. But it was always them trailing, them playing with bad technique. Denver game was claibornes bright spot, only time I recall him making plays.

Scandrick held it down man, zone, slot, outside, it didbt matter.

Carr nd claiborbe were automatic first downs.


Nd chia I agree man. I'm ready to see change myself. Dez nd Marco both put up nice years, but we can all think of at least 3 games where they were underutilized or not utilized at all. That doesn't happen with other teams. Other teams best players get the ball regardless.

3rd down conversions were non existent.

And sumn that REAAAALLLY bothered me was blitz pickup. It seemed like blitzes were an automatic negative play for us, either it was a sack, or romo fell nd conceded the sack immediately.

No adjustments, no blitz beaters.

These things been happening for years now. So I don't expect to see a change.

 

[mpire]

amazing that three straight 8-8 finishes hasn't brought more changes

what will it take? so many people should be fired right now its not even funny anymore

Problem is we are as relevant as ever. Cowboys generated over 350 mill in revenue alone last season. We had 5 of the top 10 highest rated games; the Cowboys vs Raiders was the #1 watched show on TV for all of 2013.

1. CBS Raiders-Cowboys 31.7 million viewers 14.3 HH rating (Thanksgiving Day)
2. Fox Packers-49ers (94% coverage): 28.5 million viewers 16.6 (Sept.
3. CBS Broncos-Cowboys (98% coverage): 28.3 million viewers 16.6 (Oct. 6)
4. Fox Packers-Lions 28.3 million viewers 13.4 (Thanksgiving Day)
5. CBS Broncos-Chiefs (86% coverage): 28.1 million viewers 16.7 (Dec. 1)
6. Fox Cowboys-Giants (94% coverage): 27.9 million viewers 16.4 (Nov. 24)
7. Fox Packers-Cowboys (83% coverage): 27.8 million viewers 16.3 (Dec. 15)
8. Fox Seahawks-49ers (78% coverage): 27.7 million viewers 16.2 (Dec.
9. NBC Eagles-Cowboys 27.4 million viewers 15.5 rating (Dec. 29)
10. Fox Eagles-Broncos (69% coverage): 27.0 million viewers 16.1 (Sept. 29

Things like that don't help. Jerry can live off the 3 SB's of the 90s as long as we are relevant. He only brought Parcells to get the stadium after those 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons.

I do think if we start off 1-7 then Garrett will be gone. But Jerry will never admit to "rebuilding" because "rebuilding" in his mind doesn't fill stadium seats.

The irony in all of this is local ratings have been down quite a bit. Which means its everyone outside of Dallas that are causing such high ratings.

 

[chiacrack]

it just bothers me that after all this BS there aren't major changes

premature 2014 season prediction 7-9, can't see them getting over 7 wins right now

 

[blackboyfly]

Outside of the division, the only teams we beat were the Rams, Vikings and Raiders, and two of those wins weren't easy. We aren't winning 5 divisional games again, so 7-9 might be optimistic imho.

I don't see how this team will ever be successful under Garrett. Used to give him credit for the last couple of drafts, but after some research the draft success seems to be the result of Will Mcclay, one of the few bright spots in the organization. So I could care less if/when he's fired now. I think the team will be bad enough to at least get a top 10 draft pick and give the new staff something to work with.

 

[chiacrack]

Outside of the division, the only teams we beat were the Rams, Vikings and Raiders, and two of those wins weren't easy. We aren't winning 5 divisional games again, so 7-9 might be optimistic imho.

I don't see how this team will ever be successful under Garrett. Used to give him credit for the last couple of drafts, but after some research the draft success seems to be the result of Will Mcclay, one of the few bright spots in the organization. So I could care less if/when he's fired now. I think the team will be bad enough to at least get a top 10 draft pick and give the new staff something to work with.

exactly what I mean, 7 games may be optimistic

 

[blackboyfly]

I was extremely optimistic going into last season too Can't believe we're at this point. Only way this can get worse is if Dez doesn't resign.....

 

[chiacrack]

go to BTB, people want to trade Dez or not re-sign him because of his back, yeah get rid of our best player and see what happens

 

[blackboyfly]

go to BTB, people want to trade Dez or not re-sign him because of his back, yeah get rid of our best player and see what happens

The back problems with him are overblown imo, same with Romo, to a lesser extent. Dez is one of the few guys that are good and we can build a team with. Trading him would be insane And he's the last guy Jerry would deal.

On the other hand, I'd have no problem sending Romo, Ware and Witten off. Don't know if it would work cap wise obviously, but seeing Ware in Seattle able to play only in passing situations, Witten in New England or Indianapolis and Romo in Arizona maybe would be awesome. Those guys deserve better. And we aren't going anywhere with them.

 

[va757va]

Not trading dez. That's stupid.


Black boy- what's this draft success you speak of? Cause I don't see an impact outside of 1st rounders.

 

[chiacrack]

The back problems with him are overblown imo, same with Romo, to a lesser extent. Dez is one of the few guys that are good and we can build a team with. Trading him would be insane

And he's the last guy Jerry would deal.

On the other hand, I'd have no problem sending Romo, Ware and Witten off. Don't know if it would work cap wise obviously, but seeing Ware in Seattle able to play only in passing situations, Witten in New England or Indianapolis and Romo in Arizona maybe would be awesome. Those guys deserve better. And we aren't going anywhere with them.

i'm worried about his back actually, I hope its not serious because it could shorten a great players career

with you on the other three, deserve better but never will get it done here

 

[blackboyfly]

Not trading dez. That's stupid.


Black boy- what's this draft success you speak of? Cause I don't see an impact outside of 1st rounders.

Well, draft success relative to our drafts under Wade . If we draft somebody now, I fully expect them to make the team. Previously, I was wondering if our first rounders would last 3 seasons.

 

[chiacrack]

much better drafts under Nicholas Brody......................I mean Jason Garrett

 

[mpire]

Outside of the division, the only teams we beat were the Rams, Vikings and Raiders, and two of those wins weren't easy. We aren't winning 5 divisional games again, so 7-9 might be optimistic imho.

I don't see how this team will ever be successful under Garrett. Used to give him credit for the last couple of drafts, but after some research the draft success seems to be the result of Will Mcclay, one of the few bright spots in the organization. So I could care less if/when he's fired now. I think the team will be bad enough to at least get a top 10 draft pick and give the new staff something to work with.

I used to think sometimes that Romo was the reason for some of the offensive woes/extreme pass attempts. I'm so glad that I was able to see that its fully Garrett when Romo went down in week 17. 46 pass play to 17 runs for a backup QB who hadn't started a game since 2011 is absurd. People speak of our offense as a bright spot when in reality, it's only a bright spot when compared to our defense. People point to being 5th in PPG but the Denver game skews things a bit. As someone else pointed out, Garrett has no idea how to adjust to a blitz.

I've been off the Garrett bandwagon officially since week 17. I told myself he should be allowed 3 years as Wade was. Wade was able to give us 2 division titles along with a franchise best record of 13-3. The Cowboys have blown so many close games in the past 3 years its ridiculous.

The problem with getting off the Garrett bandwagon is that there isn't any other respectable HC who would even want to come here/deal with Jerry. So Garrett may very well be the best we can do at the moment.

Norv coming here might help as Garrett would let him fully control the offense. But man, having to win in spite of Jerry is no easy task...

 

[va757va]

Lol. I feel u on that black boy fly . I'm the same way.


Nd that's sad that a successful draft to us is players just making the team. Not starting, not contributing, just filling a roster spot.

Meanwhile in Philly. They have multiple starters from the last two drafts, nd even more contributing.

We don't do that in Dallas. We need a draft like that. We need Bruce carter to be Kendrick's or bobby Wagner. All 2nd round picks at linebackers. But one isn't like the others

 

[va757va]

Norv coming here would be a godsend. At least he's creative and takes advantage of mismatched.

Nd good point on all the close games we've lost the last 3 years. You come to expect us to find a new creative way to lose.

It's like all the perceptions people have bout us are true. And I can't even deny em.