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dealing with a sentence-finisher at work 
and 98% of the time, theyre completely wrong
anyone ever confronted a sentence-finisher?
so annoying
and 98% of the time, theyre completely wrong
anyone ever confronted a sentence-finisher?
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I **** with Walmart and I enjoy Carnival CruisesSpeaking of cruises, I'm wanting to go on one with my son sometime this summer.
We don't drink. Don't party. Just want to go somewhere and be entertained, so all of the shows & attractions that someone looking to get drunk over open water might think is stupid, we want all of that.
Any recommendations on companies,tr1ll ? @pacmagic2002 ? Anyone else?
Carnival is like the Walmart of cruises, right?
I've come to realize some things about myself. When I met my lady she said "I was rough around the edges" I was a lil offended at the time, but in retrospect she was spot on 
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Not sure of the exact date but should be roughly about a month clean from opioid prescription abuse now. Tramadol to be specific, sold under the brand name Ultram in the US I believe.
Technically it's only semi-clean because I'm on a permanent prescription of 400mg per day and I can't really get below that without chronic leg pain being too much of an interference.
Been at least 5 years I think since I managed to even crawl back down to 400mg from 800mg (double the max prescribed daily dosage) and I'm pretty sure I've never lasted more than like 2 weeks.
Biggest issue was probably having to taper down while holding down a job and hiding both the substance abuse and the withdrawal from everyone. If you know anything about opioid withdrawal, it's not exactly the greatest experience so I had to find a solution.
Without the solution I cooked up below, it would literally be impossible to show up to work or even to function somewhat normally. I've never let withdrawal go past more than a handful of hours but here's what you can expect within hours of tapering down just 50mg from 800mg, which is literally the slowest pace possible:
1. Early symptoms are identical to a cold. Runny nose, the occasional shivers, ... and these get progressively worse.
2. The next symptom that comes to greet you is random muscle spasms, kinda like electrical jolts. These tend to be localized around your hands and are extremely annoying after a short while. You can shake your hands all you want, it's not gonna stop.
3. Give it like an hour or 2-3 and that's when the impulse overload kicks in. I'd compare it to my brain getting DDoS'd. In other words, overloaded by stimuli. You also feel a constant electrical current in whatever arm/hand is most affected by the previous electrical jolts.
This is where I think any person wanting to retain some semblance of sanity would tap out. I wouldn't describe it as bearable by any means and I had zero intentions of finding out what would show up in the following hours. Normally I can instantly clear my mind of any thoughts or inner monologue and keep it empty for as long as I want. The feeling of that empty void being flooded with unwanted stimuli is just pure unbearable torture, at least to me.
Much to some of my more specialized doctors' dismay I kinda cooked up my own substitute therapy with the assistance of my general physician, which worked great.
Using the same principle as methadone substitution therapy for heroin addicts, I figured the same would probably work with tramadol and codeine.
Offsetting the tramadol withdrawal with supplementary codeine wasn't even close to enough to be able to have zero withdrawals however so I supplemented it with an illegal herb called kratom.
Kratom is not an opioid but binds to the same opioid receptors in your brain, so it kinda 'tricks' your brain into thinking you're ingesting an opioid if that makes sense. It's legal in the Netherlands so it was easy to just ship across the border.
Again doctors in the hospital were for the most part not very receptive to this (a few were very in favor of legalizing kratom) but hey it's pretty much a miracle herb. You can taper down about 50mg per 1-2 weeks with literally zero withdrawal effects. The amount of kratom you need to reduce the withdrawal is very minimal and I've never noticed any of the supposed stimulant effects of its intended purpose as a recreational drug. You can just discontinue it without issue as well. Once you've tapered the tramadol down to the desired dosage, you taper down the likewise minimal amount of codeine you supplemented it with. This has much less severe withdrawal effects and kratom is sufficient to erase the entirety of those effects.
Obviously you need to discuss whatever plan you might have, such as the above, with whatever doctors you have. It's important that all are very aware of exactly what you're doing and that you can articulate exactly why this or that works, what its positives and negatives are, ...
Most likely, any doctor outside of a rehab facility, or even inside rehab from what I've heard, isn't going to be pleased with these types of homecooked substitution therapies.
A while back I also eventually put myself on a pharmacy blacklist in a relatively large radius. I'd have to cycle or take public transport for a decent distance to find a pharmacy where I'm not banned from ordering opioids without a phonecall confirmation from a supervisory contact (my mom).
The necessity of frequent doctor and hospital visits also don't necessarily stop me from just manipulating a hospital doc into prescribing me way more than I would need for a specific period and going to a distant pharmacy but I guess I'm a lazy addict when it comes to that.
Normally it wouldn't be so difficult but due to requiring a prescription to not have severe lower leg pain, you gotta deal with the paradoxical problem of asking an addict to stay within the lines while also being forced to consume a large quantity of said substance on a daily basis.
'Here's your opium, you only get a few steps to heaven though, just stay there and don't climb higher'
Technically it's only semi-clean because I'm on a permanent prescription of 400mg per day and I can't really get below that without chronic leg pain being too much of an interference.
Been at least 5 years I think since I managed to even crawl back down to 400mg from 800mg (double the max prescribed daily dosage) and I'm pretty sure I've never lasted more than like 2 weeks.
Biggest issue was probably having to taper down while holding down a job and hiding both the substance abuse and the withdrawal from everyone. If you know anything about opioid withdrawal, it's not exactly the greatest experience so I had to find a solution.
Without the solution I cooked up below, it would literally be impossible to show up to work or even to function somewhat normally. I've never let withdrawal go past more than a handful of hours but here's what you can expect within hours of tapering down just 50mg from 800mg, which is literally the slowest pace possible:
1. Early symptoms are identical to a cold. Runny nose, the occasional shivers, ... and these get progressively worse.
2. The next symptom that comes to greet you is random muscle spasms, kinda like electrical jolts. These tend to be localized around your hands and are extremely annoying after a short while. You can shake your hands all you want, it's not gonna stop.
3. Give it like an hour or 2-3 and that's when the impulse overload kicks in. I'd compare it to my brain getting DDoS'd. In other words, overloaded by stimuli. You also feel a constant electrical current in whatever arm/hand is most affected by the previous electrical jolts.
This is where I think any person wanting to retain some semblance of sanity would tap out. I wouldn't describe it as bearable by any means and I had zero intentions of finding out what would show up in the following hours. Normally I can instantly clear my mind of any thoughts or inner monologue and keep it empty for as long as I want. The feeling of that empty void being flooded with unwanted stimuli is just pure unbearable torture, at least to me.
Much to some of my more specialized doctors' dismay I kinda cooked up my own substitute therapy with the assistance of my general physician, which worked great.
Using the same principle as methadone substitution therapy for heroin addicts, I figured the same would probably work with tramadol and codeine.
Offsetting the tramadol withdrawal with supplementary codeine wasn't even close to enough to be able to have zero withdrawals however so I supplemented it with an illegal herb called kratom.
Kratom is not an opioid but binds to the same opioid receptors in your brain, so it kinda 'tricks' your brain into thinking you're ingesting an opioid if that makes sense. It's legal in the Netherlands so it was easy to just ship across the border.
Again doctors in the hospital were for the most part not very receptive to this (a few were very in favor of legalizing kratom) but hey it's pretty much a miracle herb. You can taper down about 50mg per 1-2 weeks with literally zero withdrawal effects. The amount of kratom you need to reduce the withdrawal is very minimal and I've never noticed any of the supposed stimulant effects of its intended purpose as a recreational drug. You can just discontinue it without issue as well. Once you've tapered the tramadol down to the desired dosage, you taper down the likewise minimal amount of codeine you supplemented it with. This has much less severe withdrawal effects and kratom is sufficient to erase the entirety of those effects.
Obviously you need to discuss whatever plan you might have, such as the above, with whatever doctors you have. It's important that all are very aware of exactly what you're doing and that you can articulate exactly why this or that works, what its positives and negatives are, ...
Most likely, any doctor outside of a rehab facility, or even inside rehab from what I've heard, isn't going to be pleased with these types of homecooked substitution therapies.
A while back I also eventually put myself on a pharmacy blacklist in a relatively large radius. I'd have to cycle or take public transport for a decent distance to find a pharmacy where I'm not banned from ordering opioids without a phonecall confirmation from a supervisory contact (my mom).
The necessity of frequent doctor and hospital visits also don't necessarily stop me from just manipulating a hospital doc into prescribing me way more than I would need for a specific period and going to a distant pharmacy but I guess I'm a lazy addict when it comes to that.
Normally it wouldn't be so difficult but due to requiring a prescription to not have severe lower leg pain, you gotta deal with the paradoxical problem of asking an addict to stay within the lines while also being forced to consume a large quantity of said substance on a daily basis.
'Here's your opium, you only get a few steps to heaven though, just stay there and don't climb higher'
When pointing out the obvious negatives, I think it's also necessary to point out the incentives as to why someone might rapidly turn towards addiction.
So I'll start with that.
1. Bar none, an opioid high at ideal tolerance levels is the greatest feeling on earth. Period.
That's what makes it so dangerous, especially since you can be a high-functioning addict and hold down a job while zooted, especially when combined with music. I've never run into any issues or suspicions of substance abuse, other than 1 close friend who merely had strong suspicions for several years before I came clean to my circle of friends after about 7 years.
2. Highly enhanced hearing. It's like going from a basic sound system to the highest quality sound tech in the world. You'll hear notes in music you've never even heard of before.
Everything sounds crystal clear and you can suddenly gain the ability to differentiate and isolate every single sound, even in songs with bad mixing. This strongly enhances the experience of #1.
3. It is relatively 'safe' to combine with other medications and I never experienced any short term adverse effect from interactions with my laundry list of medications (including sleeping meds classified as hypnotics, not benzos) and the occasional drunken nights out.
As for the bad:
1. Withdrawal is literal torture and you're gonna need to either convince an open-minded doctor to go along with a scuffed scheme like I cooked up or you're gonna need to seek professional rehab. The scuffed substitution therapy I used is long term withdrawal with zero symptoms, but in rehab you're gonna be put on a faster and more strict schedule, so you best be prepared to suffer.
Cold turkey from any opioid is probably more likely to end up in you offing yourself from the withdrawal than actually accomplishing anything.
2. If you're not well informed on opioids, interactions with other meds/drugs, tolerance levels, ... it's not hard to accidentally land yourself into an OD when you're at an advanced level of tolerance.
There at least one way to avoid the opioid OD threshold by combining it with a particular other prescription drug that I won't disclose for obvious reasons but it's extremely reckless and your liver will not appreciate you. I've never had an OD but that's only due to a combination of luck and an above average knowledge of medicine and specifically pharmaceuticals.
3. Opioid addiction can kick in extremely rapidly and everyone has different baseline tolerance levels and evolving tolerance levels.
You can get a post-surgery prescription for a high dosage of Tramadol and suffer withdrawals by the end of it even though all you did was stick to your recommended dosage for 3 weeks. Generally this isn't an issue but it can and does happen. Remember too that Tramadol is a relatively weak opioid and is just barely above Codeine.
You might also develop a taste for the euphoric high and become mentally addicted at any point, constantly craving for more.
4. Liver damage. This should be pretty obvious but as your addiction and tolerance levels grow, you will need larger and larger quantities of opioids to get that same high. At some point you won't even be able to reach that high anymore because your tolerance level is past the OD treshold.
Needless to say, your liver does not enjoy this very much. It already doesn't like processing opioids, much less the massive quantities advanced addicts consume.
As a currently 30 year old man with 10 years of experience in this, my liver has sustained significant damage but it has repeatedly repaired itself.
If your liver doesn't get damaged past a certain threshold, it will continue repairing itself but this would need to be carefully managed. If my last 10 years weren't a perpetual cycle of maximum addict -> taper down -> back to maximum addict -> taper down etc etc. I'm confident I would've scarred my liver beyond repair.
So I'll start with that.
1. Bar none, an opioid high at ideal tolerance levels is the greatest feeling on earth. Period.
That's what makes it so dangerous, especially since you can be a high-functioning addict and hold down a job while zooted, especially when combined with music. I've never run into any issues or suspicions of substance abuse, other than 1 close friend who merely had strong suspicions for several years before I came clean to my circle of friends after about 7 years.
2. Highly enhanced hearing. It's like going from a basic sound system to the highest quality sound tech in the world. You'll hear notes in music you've never even heard of before.
Everything sounds crystal clear and you can suddenly gain the ability to differentiate and isolate every single sound, even in songs with bad mixing. This strongly enhances the experience of #1.
3. It is relatively 'safe' to combine with other medications and I never experienced any short term adverse effect from interactions with my laundry list of medications (including sleeping meds classified as hypnotics, not benzos) and the occasional drunken nights out.
As for the bad:
1. Withdrawal is literal torture and you're gonna need to either convince an open-minded doctor to go along with a scuffed scheme like I cooked up or you're gonna need to seek professional rehab. The scuffed substitution therapy I used is long term withdrawal with zero symptoms, but in rehab you're gonna be put on a faster and more strict schedule, so you best be prepared to suffer.
Cold turkey from any opioid is probably more likely to end up in you offing yourself from the withdrawal than actually accomplishing anything.
2. If you're not well informed on opioids, interactions with other meds/drugs, tolerance levels, ... it's not hard to accidentally land yourself into an OD when you're at an advanced level of tolerance.
There at least one way to avoid the opioid OD threshold by combining it with a particular other prescription drug that I won't disclose for obvious reasons but it's extremely reckless and your liver will not appreciate you. I've never had an OD but that's only due to a combination of luck and an above average knowledge of medicine and specifically pharmaceuticals.
3. Opioid addiction can kick in extremely rapidly and everyone has different baseline tolerance levels and evolving tolerance levels.
You can get a post-surgery prescription for a high dosage of Tramadol and suffer withdrawals by the end of it even though all you did was stick to your recommended dosage for 3 weeks. Generally this isn't an issue but it can and does happen. Remember too that Tramadol is a relatively weak opioid and is just barely above Codeine.
You might also develop a taste for the euphoric high and become mentally addicted at any point, constantly craving for more.
4. Liver damage. This should be pretty obvious but as your addiction and tolerance levels grow, you will need larger and larger quantities of opioids to get that same high. At some point you won't even be able to reach that high anymore because your tolerance level is past the OD treshold.
Needless to say, your liver does not enjoy this very much. It already doesn't like processing opioids, much less the massive quantities advanced addicts consume.
As a currently 30 year old man with 10 years of experience in this, my liver has sustained significant damage but it has repeatedly repaired itself.
If your liver doesn't get damaged past a certain threshold, it will continue repairing itself but this would need to be carefully managed. If my last 10 years weren't a perpetual cycle of maximum addict -> taper down -> back to maximum addict -> taper down etc etc. I'm confident I would've scarred my liver beyond repair.
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re: the discussion about the dunk contest pages ago
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the people from my college in 2008 they made off like bandits with the money then
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Mystery illness in Congo kills more than 50 people, including children who ate a bat
Mystery illness in Congo kills more than 50 people, including children who ate a bat
The outbreak began in January, with 419 cases recorded so far, and comes after another mystery illness killed 143 in December
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Oh hell nah we better not have another covid on the rise
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Maryland lawmakers advance bill legalizing contraceptive vending machines in public schools
Maryland's House of Delegates on Friday advanced a bill that would reverse criminal state law banning condoms and other birth control contraceptives from being sold in public school vending machines.
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