god forbid we listen to one of our own instead of diddy's and kanye's publicists
Originally Posted by prison mike
Originally Posted by Mr Brown
first thought that came to my mind
WISEPAROAH dropped the dime on all these fools like a year ago in General forum. Ye, Diddy, Russel Simmons, all these dudes are gay.
Frank Ocean shocked the music community yesterday when he released an open letter that revealed he was gay.
Russell Simmons Calls Frank Ocean's Bravery a 'Game Changer'
Def Jam co-founder Russell Simmons, has now thrown his support behind the 24-year-old singer, calling his bravery a game changer for Hip-Hop music.
"Today is a big day for hip-hop. It is a day that will define who we really are. How compassionate will we be? How loving can we be? How inclusive are we? I am profoundly moved by the courage and honesty of Frank Ocean. Your decision to go public about your sexual orientation gives hope and light to so many young people still living in fear. These types of secrets should not matter anymore, but we know they do," Simmons wrote.
"His gifts are undeniable. His talent, enormous. His bravery, incredible. His actions this morning will uplift our consciousness and allow us to become better people. Every single one of us is born with peace and tranquility in our heart. Frank just found his."
"Frank, we thank you. We support you. We love you," Simmons wrote on his website Global Grind.
What are you waiting for Russel???
lol can't it be both?Originally Posted by Mr Brown
at people thinking this is some marketing ploy. malcolm gladwell wrote an article about this - people make up conspiracy theories in place of realities they can't understand or aren't comfortable with. well real life is christopher breaux loved a man, wrote songs based off that experience and you sang along... accept it, think it over, and act accordingly...
Originally Posted by DT43
i try to say i don't care, because i really do like dudes music..Originally Posted by prison mike
I really don't know how to feel. Thinking About You is my #*%$, but to hear that he has songs on his album that are specifically talking about men is disturbing. Sad to say, but I honestly don't think I can listen to him anymore.But maybe I will. It kinda threw me off guard when NPH came out, but I still enjoy How I Met Your Mother and his character is still my favorite.
but i know everytime i listen to him from now on the thought of him singing about messing with dudes is gonna keep popping into my head
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
lol can't it be both?Originally Posted by Mr Brown
at people thinking this is some marketing ploy. malcolm gladwell wrote an article about this - people make up conspiracy theories in place of realities they can't understand or aren't comfortable with. well real life is christopher breaux loved a man, wrote songs based off that experience and you sang along... accept it, think it over, and act accordingly...
I think you're spot on.. which makes this genius. If you're a woman you could relate to this, if you're a gay man you could relate to this, if you're a straight man you could change all the him to her, all the man to woman and relate to this. This is what songwriting used to be.. Honestly this is the androgyny of the 80s, unless of course he starts singing about explicitly blowing guys back out of courseOriginally Posted by YaBoyDiddy
Not completely sold yet. Until he comes out in plain text: "I'm a bisexual or gay man." Not some thank you's for an album.
They're thank you's...he's already in a full scale, big picture mindset - he's a songwriter!...do u know how easily he could of intentionally planned to troll us and flip the script
and say the "him" he was referring to is music. "The come out" ("The decision") was well written but still vague enough that it could apply to music.
"4 summers ago, I met somebody" [music]
"We spent that summer together and the summer after. Everyday almost." [music]
"Time would glide." [music!!!!!]
"I'd hear his conversation and his silence until it was time to sleep [music!!!!]
"It was hopeless...no escaping...no negotiating..." [music!!! Once you're into creating music it takes over your u ]
"I reminisced about the songs I enjoyed as a teenager... I realized they were in a language I didn't speak yet [music]
"He wouldn't tell me the truth about his feelings for me for another 3 years. I felt like I only imagined his reciprocity for years."
[You got a love for something but you're looking for and u wont that acknowledgment and success. He was demoing for Def Jam but his solo +%@+, him an artist, was on the back burner.]
"I kept up a peculiar friendship because I couldn't imagine keeping up my life without him [music]
"I'll remember who I was when I met you." [Music. His Career is taking off...he wont forget his artistry or compromise]
Damn near most of that thank u, u could apply to music. Maybe I'm reaching...maybe I'm not
If he's gay...It is what it is...it wont change his music.
Sexual orientation aint ever cross my mind when listening to music. I'm listening for craft.
Naw, your def reaching.Originally Posted by YaBoyDiddy
Not completely sold yet. Until he comes out in plain text: "I'm a bisexual or gay man." Not some thank you's for an album.
They're thank you's...he's already in a full scale, big picture mindset - he's a songwriter!...do u know how easily he could of intentionally planned to troll us and flip the script
and say the "him" he was referring to is music. "The come out" ("The decision") was well written but still vague enough that it could apply to music.
"4 summers ago, I met somebody" [music]
"We spent that summer together and the summer after. Everyday almost." [music]
"Time would glide." [music!!!!!]
"I'd hear his conversation and his silence until it was time to sleep [music!!!!]
"It was hopeless...no escaping...no negotiating..." [music!!! Once you're into creating music it takes over your u ]
"I reminisced about the songs I enjoyed as a teenager... I realized they were in a language I didn't speak yet [music]
"He wouldn't tell me the truth about his feelings for me for another 3 years. I felt like I only imagined his reciprocity for years."
[You got a love for something but you're looking for and u wont that acknowledgment and success. He was demoing for Def Jam but his solo +%@+, him an artist, was on the back burner.]
"I kept up a peculiar friendship because I couldn't imagine keeping up my life without him [music]
"I'll remember who I was when I met you." [Music. His Career is taking off...he wont forget his artistry or compromise]
Damn near most of that thank u, u could apply to music. Maybe I'm reaching...maybe I'm not
If he's gay...It is what it is...it wont change his music.
Sexual orientation aint ever cross my mind when listening to music. I'm listening for craft.
Especially since his mother, and Tyler have confirmed it.Originally Posted by prison mike
Naw, your def reaching.Originally Posted by YaBoyDiddy
Not completely sold yet. Until he comes out in plain text: "I'm a bisexual or gay man." Not some thank you's for an album.
They're thank you's...he's already in a full scale, big picture mindset - he's a songwriter!...do u know how easily he could of intentionally planned to troll us and flip the script
and say the "him" he was referring to is music. "The come out" ("The decision") was well written but still vague enough that it could apply to music.
"4 summers ago, I met somebody" [music]
"We spent that summer together and the summer after. Everyday almost." [music]
"Time would glide." [music!!!!!]
"I'd hear his conversation and his silence until it was time to sleep [music!!!!]
"It was hopeless...no escaping...no negotiating..." [music!!! Once you're into creating music it takes over your u ]
"I reminisced about the songs I enjoyed as a teenager... I realized they were in a language I didn't speak yet [music]
"He wouldn't tell me the truth about his feelings for me for another 3 years. I felt like I only imagined his reciprocity for years."
[You got a love for something but you're looking for and u wont that acknowledgment and success. He was demoing for Def Jam but his solo +%@+, him an artist, was on the back burner.]
"I kept up a peculiar friendship because I couldn't imagine keeping up my life without him [music]
"I'll remember who I was when I met you." [Music. His Career is taking off...he wont forget his artistry or compromise]
Damn near most of that thank u, u could apply to music. Maybe I'm reaching...maybe I'm not
If he's gay...It is what it is...it wont change his music.
Sexual orientation aint ever cross my mind when listening to music. I'm listening for craft.
