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What are you most looking forward to? (Two choices allowed)

  • Derek Carr's return

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Amari Cooper's third season

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Khalil Mack in his prime

    Votes: 7 21.9%
  • Marshawn Lynch where he belongs

    Votes: 15 46.9%
  • Defensive improvements

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Showdown in Mexico City

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Revenge against Kansas City

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
    32
2-0 was needed cuz the remaining schedule is so stacked.

Still got:
6 games against AFCW: Den, KC & LAC
4 games against NFCE: WAS, NYG, DAL & PHI (including 2 cross country road trips to Was & PHI)
3 games against AFCE: NE, BUF, MIA (2 cross country trips to BUF & MIA + 1 international trip to Mexico).
1 game against 2-0 Baltimore in Oakland.

I feel like only 4 of the remaining 14 games are against non-playoff teams: LAC (x2), WAS & BUF
 
It's too close time-wise to plan a trip cross country. I needed to plan this in the summer.

ahh, i thought you were local to DC.

I'm with Mack, we are 2-0, we still not as good as we can be. One day and one step at a time. We are def. moving in the right direction.

i agree with Mack too, but these two wins are definitely confidence boosters for the defense and special teams. our offense is top 3 regardless, but the D/ST have played pretty well, even though its been against lower level talent. We didn't get BEAT by anyone in either game. the Titans have a good run game, and we held them to under 100 yards. our DBs have been playing well, and Amerson was just a few inches short of that PD yesterday. last season, we gave up like 30 points a game. let's use the confidence and momentum to steamroll the rest of our schedule.
 
The NFL is a crazy place 2-0 to start then 5 in a row in the next column guys need to stay hungry and looking to improve our schedule is rough over the next few weeks we travel more then any other team but I am happy to know that this team is not afraid to play on the road.

Keep plugging fellas, and our division outside of the chargers has to be the most competitive in the league without question. 3 teams sitting at 3-0 and each team pulling off impressive wins, cant believe Denver did what we did (to the Jets) against the Cowboys
 
agreed. our WHOLE division is gonna be tough.

just bought my tickets for Sunday night. section 220, row 5.
 
I like the fact that that division is good. Makes everyone stay on their toes b/c each game is so meaningful.

Man yesterday was so much fun. Idk if the stadium has ever been more hyped than when Marshawn was giggin. What an experience lol.
Everything went well on offense so there isn't much to discuss on that end.

Defensively tho..
- I thought Karl Joseph had his statement game. 2nd best player on the defense. Loved all the blitzes he got cuz he was getting there quick as ****!
- Conley got 46 snaps meaning he only missed 10 plays. I only remember him giving up 1 short completion. He's already the best CB on the squad... The Amerson/Conley/Carrie/Smith dime package is a lot better than anything the Raiders have had at CB since like 2004. Washington has the best WRs of any team we've played so far, so next week will be a good test. Speaking of which, I think this is the 1st time the Raiders are playing WR Pryor.. man what could've been if he just decided to give up QBing with us. I respect it though, he wanted to play his dream position but damn he's a beast at WR & should've switched 5 years earlier.
- Vanderdoes was a little more quiet but after that monster game last week it was to be expected.
- Ward got some snaps (24/56)... hopefully he can start to contribute cuz Autry, Ellis & Hester can make for nice depth/rotational pieces.

Washington next week:
- Sunday night football baby. Can't remember the last time the Raiders were on Sunday night.
- Cooper vs Norman is gunna be a lot of fun. I think Washington will just run em 1 on 1 & I wanna attack that cuz nobody can guard Amari 1 on 1. The Raiders need to establish him as the top 10 weapon he is. The Jets kinda doubled Coop & let everyone else beat em yesterday. I think it'll be different on Sunday night & I'm looking for Coop to break out.
- Jordan Reed has been hurt but it'll be a good test to see how the defense will cover TEs going forward. Delani Walker played well in game 1 but the Jets didn't really have a NFL ready TE on the team. If Reed is hurt, Vernon Davis is their back up.
- Washington's run game is pretty nice. Fat Rob got hurt but it looks like he's gunna play. Plus they got the rookie Perine & Chris Thompson is fast as ****. If they can stop the run, its gunna be a W.
 
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Raiders offense playing fast, physical and doing whatever it wants in 2-0 start

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Vic Tafur
3 hours ago

The Raiders offense is calling its shots. In the case of receiver Cordarrelle Patterson’s 43-yard touchdown run Sunday, it’s something they told him would open when he was a free agent this spring and considering signing here.

“We sold him on some of the things we’d be excited about doing,” coach Jack Del Rio said Monday at his weekly news conference, momentarily basking in the glow of a 2-0 start “Showed him specific examples of plays being run that we’d utilize him in, ideas we had to utilize him with. When he got here we started working on it. We got some things that we’re going to do with him. We’re excited.

“We think he’s a real weapon, we think he’s a strong, physical, fast guy. I think it’s gone beautifully the way it’s developed.”

Patterson’s “Gun run,” where he came in motion and took the handoff from Derek Carr in the shotgun, is just another wrinkle in an offense that looks like a grandfather’s forehead. The Raiders have scored eight touchdowns and five field goals in 19 drives that didn’t end in a kneel down. They have not committed a turnover this season — the first team since Denver in 2000 to score at least 70 points and have no giveaways the first two games — and really look like they’re still getting in sync.

At which point it will really be bye, bye, bye for defenses.

“We have so many weapons,” Patterson said. “The sky is the limit for these guys, for us, and being part of this organization it's amazing. I'm glad I'm here, it feels good and you know there are weapons all around the board.

In the 45-20 win over the Jets, the Raiders ran for three touchdowns and passed for three, something that was done only once in the league last year (Washington vs. Green Bay).

The Raiders’ average of 3.6 points per drive is the best mark in the NFL at this point in the season since the 2008 Broncos. And like with Patterson, who will line up all over the field, it’s taken a lot of work by players in meeting rooms and practices.

“He’s had to work at it,” Del Rio said. “There’s a lot of learning on his part, to understand how to be in different positions, how to line up, how to get the play call, how to know what the responsibility is. He’s involved in all phases, touching the ball a bunch of different ways, blocking a lot of different ways, running routes a lot of different ways, so a lot of responsibility on his part as well.

“For us to develop him, for him to embrace and grow in those areas and he’s done a great job of it. I credit him and I credit the staff working hard with him.”

The other guys on the field deserve a tip of the cap as well, especially receiver Seth Roberts, who made blocks way downfield to help spring the touchdown runs by Patterson and Jalen Richard.

“You see Seth Roberts showing up, hustling down the field, which is a tremendous effort,” Del Rio said. “That’s the kind of stuff. Big plays, when you’re an offensive unit, big plays you’re always seeing extra effort from somebody to help. You know, get a block to spring you. Go down the field and get another guy. Whatever it might be. So, yeah, good stuff to see.”

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Rookie cornerback Gareon Conley had a nice debut, playing 28 snaps, being targeted twice and only giving up one catch for eight yards.

The Jets went after Conley with a deep pass to Jermaine Kearse with four minutes left in the first quarter. Conley jumped and was able to deflect the ball away.

“Yeah, they’ll challenge any rookie,” Conley said. “I gave up one catch, a comebacker, but they didn’t test me much (after the initial deflection). I was waiting for them. Every snap, I feel like I’m going to get tested.”

The first-round pick missed all of training camp and the preseason with a shin injury, and Del Rio thought he “did a nice job” coming in and playing outside on passing downs (TJ Carrie moved inside to the slot).

“(Conley) was in position doing the things he was supposed to do,” Del Rio said. “Showed up and cracked some plays in run support, showed up as a tackler when balls were thrown in front of him.”

There’s no point in saying where Conley is in terms of getting the rust off after the injury, or where he was development-wise before it.

“He’s working hard, he’s doing everything he can,” Del Rio said. “He’s got to play some catch-up. There’s a lot of reps he didn’t get, so we’re doing what we can. And then, mentally, he was tuned in the entire time, which gives him a chance … We’re going to use him, we’re going to teach him, develop him as we go. It was a good start for him.”

Cornerback Sean Smith didn’t play against the Jets due to a neck injury, but Del Rio is hopeful he can play Sunday night at Washington.
 
Middlekauff: Michael Crabtree is in full flight as a Raider, and here's why

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John Middlekauff
3 hours ago

Michael Crabtree has been an excellent Raider, there is no way around it. The production, the big plays, the swagger — he has been the total package. While he’s not even the most talented wide receiver on the team (that’s Amari Cooper), he has easily been the most consistent. He’s also been a security blanket for his young quarterback Derek Carr, helping Carr transform from a young player to a full-blown superstar.

I didn’t like the signing when the Raiders first acquired Crabtree on a one-year deal in 2015. Not only did I think he was a player whose arrow was pointing down, I believed he had been toxic his last couple seasons in San Francisco. It was well known he didn’t get along with his quarterback Colin Kaepernick and I didn’t like the thought of putting him around Carr. Well, it turned out the 49ers were the toxic ones, and Kaepernick was the guy struggling to make friends on the team. The signing was brilliant. I was dead wrong.

Crabtree has been loved since the moment he came to Oakland. Obviously, the quarterback is a big fan, but the coaching staff raves about him. This is an area I was also unsure on: how hard would he work? Well, Carr answered that question after a Crabtree three-touchdown performance against the Jets Sunday.

“The thing that young kids need to know about him is that every day Crab catches a ball in practice, he finishes to the end zone,” Carr said. “He’s used to scoring. When you get a guy with talent like that — catching fades, doing everything — obviously, it’s easy if he goes up and gets it. Every route that he runs, every day he catches, he finishes. He does it in the offseason, he does it in training camp, he does it in practice.”

Crabtree’s production has been off the charts with the Raiders. He has 20 touchdowns in 34 games. He had 85 catches in 2015, then set a career high in 2016 with 89 and looks poised for another monster year. I think there are several reasons for his resurgence to a Pro Bowl level.

Quarterback
“I needed new scenery. It wasn't for me,” Crabtree said after signing with the Raiders. “I needed a quarterback that can deliver the ball, and that was hungry like I was.”

It was a match made in heaven. He went from a quarterback whose career was falling apart, to one that was about to blossom. Carr and Crabtree have been on the same page since day one.

Crabtree’s breakout season in the NFL was 2012, the year Kaepernick “Wally Pipped” Alex Smith. He had 85 catches and nine touchdowns. He also had the highest catch percentage (catches-to-targets) of his career at 71.9 percent. But over the next two years he only caught 102 balls. It just wasn’t working.

His first two years with the Raiders were very productive and he’s off to his most efficient start of his career in 2017 — 12 catches on 13 targets for a 92.3 catch percentage. Carr knows that if Crabtree is in a man-to-man situation he is going to win the majority of the time. He has full trust in Crabtree. His ball skills are elite, his catching radius is massive, and his ability to track the ball is special.

This touchdown against the Jets was a great example of this

Carr is not just throwing the ball up, this is a point of emphasis Monday through Saturday for the Raiders offense. Fans think it’s lucky; even Tony Romo called it a low-percentage pass during Week 1. They’re wrong. Well, not in theory; for most teams it would be difficult, but it might be the Raiders' most successful route. A coach on the staff told me they work on it every day in practice. And when they get matchups like they did against Tennessee, Carr knows that a rookie cornerback, even a first-rounder like Adoree' Jackson, has no shot.

Red zone
In 2012, Crabtree had six touchdowns in the red zone according to Pro Football Focus, which is extremely impressive. But the next two years that number dwindled to three, as the offense and quarterback sputtered.

Through 34 games in Oakland, he has 11 red zone touchdowns, according to PFF. That’s over 50 percent of his Raiders touchdowns coming within the 20-yard line. The Raiders not only feel comfortable with Crabtree in this area, they know he excels in it.

While the 49ers never could figure out the goal-line fade — hint: the Super Bowl — the Raiders have mastered it. It’s the Raiders and Carr’s go-to play near the goal line. They had a game-saving touchdown against San Diego two years ago. Used it again to win a game in New Orleans last season on a two-point conversion. What did both plays have common? They both went to Crabtree.

The play below looks difficult, but the Raiders have full confidence it will work.

Crabtree is a great route runner, and even in small spaces like the red zone he has no problem working his way open. He also often gets the opponents' No. 2 corner, so Crabtree is at a major advantage the majority of plays. This touchdown late in the game against the Jets was just too easy. The defensive back never had a chance. Despite having a ton of offensive weapons, the Raiders run plays for Crabtree when it’s time to score. It was obvious Carr was going to him at the snap of the ball.

Swagger
Confidence for any player is huge. One thing I thought Crabtree really lost in 2013 and 2014 was his swagger. It’s what helped make him become an elite prospect coming out of Texas Tech. He knew he was the best player on the field. He lost some of that with the 49ers offense. His body language was bad and it just looked like his fire was gone.

Safe to say it’s back now in Oakland. Crabtree knows his quarterback trusts him, and understands he can win against just about any corner. It’s why he consistently wins in man-to-man situations.

He also looks like he is poised for a breakout season in terms of YAC (yards after catch). According to PFF, Crabtree hasn’t had over 300 yards after the catch in a season since 2012. He already has 66 yards this season and looks ready for a monster year in this area. Despite not being that fast, Crabtree’s strength and instincts in space were evident on this play against Tennessee. He can turn nothing into something with ease.

Crabtree is more than your typical possession wide receiver and Carr knows it. Just get him the ball and let him do the rest. His ball skills are elite, and his confidence is at an all-time high. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie gets a lot of credit for different moves, but I'm not sure any has been as impactful as Crabtree given the price he paid to acquire him. He is becoming the player we all thought he’d become when he was drafted 10th in 2009, and I think we can acknowledge it’s pretty fun to watch. Unless you are the opposing defensive back attempting to cover him, especially in single coverage. Because we know how that will probably turn out — a catch for Crabtree.
 
That's crazy. Got my hopes up they'd move the game back here haha
 
Can anyone post the Vic mailbag?

I was thinkIng about how many potential Hall of Famers are currently on the squad.


Khalil will make it.

Other players with potential to make it:
- KO... another 5-7 years of allpro caliber lineplay might get him in.
- Marshawn... can get it if he adds another ring and balls in the playoffs.
- Cooper... has HoF talent... he'll need the numbers but I think he can get there without injuries
- Carr... too early to call but if he continues down the current path I could see it. Would need to win multiple super bowls.

The most interesting one to me is Crabtree. I don't think he'll make it, but he's completely rejuvenated his career. He had no shot with the way his career in SF was going, but the numbers he's putting up with Carr are phenomenal. Ultimately, I doubt he gets in, but its cool to see him doing so well.
 
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Can anyone post the Vic mailbag?

I was thinkIng about how many potential Hall of Famers are currently on the squad.


Khalil will make it.

Other players with potential to make it:
- KO... another 5-7 years of allpro caliber lineplay might get him in.
- Marshawn... can get it if he adds another ring and balls in the playoffs.
- Cooper... has HoF talent... he'll need the numbers but I think he can get there without injuries
- Carr... too early to call but if he continues down the current path I could see it.

The most interesting one to me is Crabtree. I don't think he'll make it, but he's completely rejuvenated his career. He had no shot with the way his career in SF was going, but the numbers he's putting up with Carr are phenomenal. He's increasing his chances with every game but ultimately, I doubt he gets in.


Raiders mailbag: More Morrow and Conley please, and what fans yell out during safety blitzes

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Vic Tafur
58 minutes ago

Raiders fans, you done dancing yet?

The 2-0 Raiders have their first real test of the season Sunday night when they take on Washington and future 49ers quarterback Kirk Cousins in Washington, D.C.

Washington is 1-1 and can run the ball behind a big offensive line. Their passing game has a lot of new faces — hello, Terrelle Pryor — and would love to hit its stride against what, just two weeks ago, everybody thought was a suspect secondary.

Jordan Reed is the kind of tight end that had Raiders fans tossing and turning the last two seasons, getting their silver and black face paint all over the sheets.

(Oh, are you still stuck on the first test thing? Yeah, the Titans are good but the Raiders own them. Sometimes, that just happens. Rolando McClain and Matt Giordano would terrorize that offense.)

Let’s open the mailbag and see how carried away people are getting:

@RaiderMatt5204 on Twitter asks, Will Nicholas Morrow play more and more?

Yes, the rookie from Division III saw his snaps increase from four to 25 in Week 2, while middle linebackers Tyrell Adams and Marquel Lee both watched more.

Adams saw the field 38 percent of the time (21 snaps, down from 41), while Lee was down to 18 percent (10) usage. Morrow is undersized but quick to the ball.

Shayne Greaney asks, Do you see Conley being an All-Star in a couple of years?

Yes, because he swatted away a pass from Josh McCown to Jermaine Kearse. The rookie is headed to the Hall of Fame. Give him a jacket.

Austin Wagner asks, Pagano calling defensive plays?

New assistant head coach John Pagano has definitely helped, especially in working with young safety Karl Joseph, but he is not calling the plays. Jack Del Rio still has a heavy hand in things, just like he did when the defense struggled, and Ken Norton Jr. is still the defensive coordinator and does defensive coordinator things.

I know everybody looks at things like the safety blitzes and yells “Pagano!” like they yell “Keno” when they hit their numbers in a lounge in Reno. But Joseph blitzed a lot in college and it was a reason he was drafted in the first round last year. He just wasn’t healthy and comfortable last season.

Mario Edwards Jr. is healthy and a presence inside, and that’s not because Pagano is giving him rub downs every day and telling him where to line up.

Steven Curup asks, Do you think the Raiders D is actually getting better or is it that we played the Titans and Jets?

As just mentioned, I think Joseph and Edwards have been huge. They were the two players I highlighted as keys to the season back in Napa, and they are showing up. Justin Elllis has lost some weight and along with rookie Eddie Vanderdoes is giving the Raiders a push inside that they just didn’t have last season.

I still wouldn’t throw a parade over the linebackers or secondary, and the upcoming games at Washington and Denver will tell us more than the last two games did.

Paul Solviletti asks, Is Amari Cooper’s dropping problems and rather slow start concerning to anyone at all?

Not really. I do think Cooper is in his own head at times, but he is one of the top route runners in the NFL, is quicker than defensive backs think, and now, after another offseason lifting weights, won’t be pushed around. Last Sunday’s game plan swung to Michael Crabtree because of matchups, but Cooper will still make fantasy players’ dreams come true. (That’s really what we’re talking about here, right?)

@Srfndoc on Twitter asks, What’s going on with Latham? Haven’t heard much.

The Raiders drafted Vanderdoes and Treyvon Hester, a rejuvenated Ellis is on his contract year, hard-working Denico Autry is a coaches’ favorite and Jihad Ward is a big, strong guy the Raiders have a lot invested in. Darius Latham, who had flashes last year, is just the man out.

Jules Malone asks, Is the plan for Marshawn to get more snaps and run through someone’s face over and over and over again after the bye?

My preseason number was 18 touches a game and so far Lynch is averaging 16. They haven’t needed him to do more than that yet, and backups Jalen Richard and DeAndre Washington are both dangerous backups, as you saw by Richard’s touchdown against the Jets. The Raiders want Lynch fresh for the playoffs.

Derick G. asks, How is Olawale being incorporated back into the offense?

Like seasoning. You don’t want to add too much, because he is a fullback, bless him, on a team full of faster playmakers. But Jamize will be there in some delicious bites, like he was last season when opponents were served some surprising big-yardage pass plays. (I must be hungry.)

@ZacharyJ_Mi on Twitter asks, When will Mack start getting sacks?

Last week.

@jhong721 on Twitter asks, Aldon?

No. Vic.

Stephen Perron asks, Toughest primetime game?

I would say yes because it’s a road game, but the Washington offense is not what it was last season. So we’ll say the Oct. 19 home game against the Chiefs, because of the ownage.

Daniel Diaz asks, Thoughts and prayers are with those in Mexico City. With the Raiders scheduled to play there in Nov. what are the chance it gets moved to Oakland?

There have been conflicting reports on the damage done to Estadio Azteca and there is plenty of time to take care of more pressing issues down there first. But the NFL really wants this game in Mexico and that ancient stadium was not in good shape to begin with, so I could see Goodall out there on his hands and knees using crazy glue and duct tape.

@SportsHackCA on Twitter asks, Liked the dump-off passes to the RBs a la the Charlie Garner days. More of that?

Yes. With the receivers pulling the defense downfield, there is a lot of room for Richard and Washington to operate. Back at training camp, when Washington was getting more carries, Richard didn’t care because of all the pass plays they had drawn up for him.

@orderofdracul on Twitter asks, When all the corners are healthy who’s the odd man out?

I think it will be based on matchups, between Smith and Carrie.

@mannyvice15 on Twitter asks, Can you Gig like Marshawn?

Wrong question. Can Marshawn do the Kid ’n Play like me?
 
that's the craziest part, you'll never be able to recreate something as genuine as Marshawn going dumb on the sidelines.

gonna have to pump in crowd noise like Atlanta :lol:
 
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