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[raider5]

Smh you dudes are and embarrassment. RIP to this thread

 

[HNL HI]

wish there was some context to his post

 

[raider5]

forgot about that Kim K rumor

 

[blakmn89]

Hope Amari learns to catch the damn ball. He's had too many drops

 

[Deleted member 185039]

Derek is very dangerous on his feet/on the move/rolling out. Why haven't we seen more of this?

 

[HNL HI]

seen this on reddit, still like Crabs logo better

 

[Deleted member 185039]

Hope Amari learns to catch the damn ball. He's had too many drops

He loves the sidelines too. He'll fix it with time.

 

[raider5]

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/09/26/raiders-could-stay-in-oakland-through-2020-season/

 

[sohi 23]

Still thinking about how the offense got dominated by Washington.

Sad that Diggs has established himself as the #1 receiver from the 2015 class. Amari is sooo talented but idk if he has that dog in him.

 

[njavier03]

Amari can't catch the easy passes that we need on 3rd down, but will making a leaping catch in triple coverage smh. I was at the store on Saturday, looking to buy a Lynch jersey. They didn't have my size, but they had Coop. I let it down, just like he does when we need to move th chains.

 

[HNL HI]

Amari can't catch the easy passes that we need on 3rd down, but will making a leaping catch in triple coverage smh. I was at the store on Saturday, looking to buy a Lynch jersey. They didn't have my size, but they had Coop. I let it down, just like he does when we need to move th chains.

lol

Is the Lynch jersey stitched now?

 

[village1600]

Thank god we got Crabtree.
I like coop but honestly i woudnt mind if we were to trade him instead of giving him a big contract.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Raiders mailbag: Overconfident, distracted by anthem sit-down or just outplayed and outcoached

Vic Tafur
5 hours ago

The NFL stands for No Friggin' Laughing, as Raiders fans were way too happy last week for the football gods’ liking. Fans were wondering if Derek Carr was going to win the first of many MVP awards this season, if Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper were the best receiving tandem in the league and if Ken Norton Jr. and Jack Del Rio were really underrated defensive geniuses.

Who needs linebackers, people cried out like a face-painted William Wallace about to break into a sprint.

Too much? Well, 2-0 seems like a long time ago after Sunday night’s beheading.

I have pulled out the couch. Sit. Take a breath. Let’s read your mailbag of questions:

@MyKroddis on Twitter asks, How do they go from Weeks 1 and 2 offense and defense to Week 3 disaster. Seriously, how does that even happen?

Khalil Mack and Karl Joseph both said the loss to Washington was “humble pie,” implying some of the players may have gotten overconfident. Carr said he hopes that the national anthem sit-down wasn’t a distraction, implying that he thinks it is possible that it was.

Bottom line, the Washington coaches were a step ahead of the Raiders coaches all night, and Carr had his worst game since the 0-10 days. As guard Kelechi Osemele said, the Raiders were outplayed, outschemed and outhustled.

Michael C. asks, When was the offensive line mishandled like that?

Two years ago against the Vikings. In the first half against the Texans in Mexico last year. Both times, the offensive line bounced back and bullied opponents. I think you can live with one bad outing a season.

@BruCam87 on Twitter asks, Is the play-calling not providing options to go deep due to focus on getting the ball out, or is Carr picking the check down?

That’s a great question, and one you won’t get an answer to from the Raiders. Last year, it sure seemed like every great play was leaked as a Carr audible and all the bad plays were Bill Musgrave calls. One thing hasn’t changed: this is a short-passing offense, with Carr looking to get the ball out and into the hands of the playmakers. The deep game and the running game both come from teams reacting to the 7-yard passes to Crabtree and Cooper.

That’s why it was so surprising that Carr forced a deep pass on the first interception and held onto the ball and took the four sacks on Sunday.

Jeff P. asks, How long is Norton’s leash as the defensive coordinator? If you know Chris Thompson is kryptonite, scheme for it.

His leash is longer than you think. The players love him and they play hard for him. Even against Washington, the defense put together some stops early in hope that the offense would come around. It didn’t, and the Raiders just don’t have enough playmakers on defense to hold down a talented quarterback like Kirk Cousins for an entire game.

@BHTruth on Twitter asks, Why does the defense suck?

The linebackers aren’t very good, the secondary still makes more mistakes than big plays and up front the Raiders are counting on two rookies inside along with Justin Ellis. Rookies are going to have highs and lows. On defense, a low can kill you. Take rookie cornerback Gareon Conley. He not only did not make the tackle on Thompson on third-and-19, but by just standing there kind of gave the running back the lane he would need for the first down.

Jose Guadarrama asks, Can we get rid of (David) Amerson? He’s garbage.

As of this second, he is the Raiders' best cornerback. He broke up three passes before giving up the big TD pass Sunday, when he decided to wait for the interception rather than go up for it like Josh Doctson did.

Peter Wilkinson asks, Any word if Revis is in the plans?

No, last season old man Revis was terrible.

David Lewman asks, Rookie OC mistake?

Offensive coordinator Todd Downing had a rough night, no doubt. Not only did it look like Washington knew what play he was going to call, but there were several times Carr looked to the sidelines incredulously after plays. Downing and Carr were surprised Washington played so much zone, and had no answer for that or the other different looks they were presented.

Then the Raiders had first-and-goal at the 4 and didn’t give Marshawn Lynch the ball once.

Jason Crigger asks, What’s up with not running the ball in goal-to-go situations?

Seems like Downing is in his own head, not wanting to be obvious near the goal-line when the whole point of adding Beast Mode is to go … beast mode and run the ball through an opponent’s face.

@OakRaider95 on Twitter asks, Perry Riley Week 6?

That ship left the dock a long time ago. Fans are still waving. Come back, please. But the Raiders feel they squeezed every drop out of the veteran linebacker last season and are better served going with youth.

@Randall9Terrell on Twitter asks, Is there a chance the Raiders dump Vegas and stay in Oakland?

For all the talk of lease options in Oakland through 2020, word is that the shovel will be in the ground in Vegas in the next two months. Sorry. That ship sailed, and an Elvis impersonator is on deck, singing … No, not “Viva Las Vegas.” But “Always On My Mind.”

Craig Brown asks, Will Cooper ever emerge?

I could answer that, but then you won’t read tomorrow’s story.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Kawakami: The Del Rio treatment plan — get the Raiders through a “Miserable Monday” to heal them by Sunday

Tim Kawakami
Sep 26, 2017

Sometimes Jack Del Rio is the rambling, gambling life force of the Raiders, sometimes he's their chief of discipline, sometimes he's their spokesman, sometimes (maybe more times than we know) he's their defensive strategist and sometimes Del Rio is really and truly the team psychologist.

Sometimes that last role might be his most important and most often necessary, I think.

Which brings us to Monday afternoon, when the Raiders coach calmly answered questions about Sunday's dismal loss in Washington, D.C., accepted the totality of the defeat, but mainly tried his best to steer the conversation into more curative areas.

This wasn't just for public dissemination — it was for his players, who started this season with two strong victories, who put on spectacular offensive showcases in those two games, who seemed like possible Super Bowl contenders … then looked a bit sad and bewildered Sunday as the Washington pounding went on and on.

So it was up to Del Rio to change the course of this.

“We’re taking our lumps today,” Del Rio said. “We know it’s a miserable Monday when you don’t get it done on Sunday. We’re dealing with that. We’ll take it like men and move on.

“Clearly, it wasn’t anything close to what we know we’re capable of. We’ll go back to the drawing board, we’ll make our corrections, and we’ll move on.”

Miserable Monday. Then comes Del Rio's self-titled Tell the Truth Tuesday, when the team will go over the tape of a 27-10 drubbing in which the Raiders offense didn't get over the 100-yard mark until garbage time late in the fourth quarter.

And, if it's up to Del Rio, the Raiders will spend the rest of the week regaining their mojo heading into Sunday's large divisional contest in Denver.

Here's the psychologist at work: Del Rio brought up a few key points when the Raiders could've got back into the game but blew the moment, including Amari Cooper's third-down drop in the second quarter and the defense surrendering a 74-yard gain on a swing pass to Chris Thompson on third-and-19 in the third quarter when the Raiders had narrowed the score to 21-7.

Del Rio said his team kept fighting (some evidence to the contrary); he said it was just a matter of a slow start and the inability to make the key play that might've changed everything; he said Derek Carr and the offense just never really got going.

“We were really looking for that spark — probably pressing early in the game,” Del Rio said. “Offensively, got out of rhythm. We threw, in the first four drives, two picks and two three-and- outs. We weren’t in rhythm, obviously.

“(Washington) executed. It really wasn’t anything overwhelming. They played some solid, basic coverage and we didn’t execute and they did. It’s just one of those days. It’s an opportunity to learn. Recognize what went on.”

This is all mostly important because the Raiders have some great pieces and can do some great things, but they're not a great team yet and that means they can get knocked down. Now they have to get up.

Mostly, the Raiders' roster is clearly top-heavy, so when a few things start going wrong with the main guys, it all can break apart just like it did Sunday, even against a middling Washington team.

The Raiders need Carr throwing strikes, their receivers making plays, their offensive line dominating physically and their running backs blasting through holes — none of those things happened Sunday.

The Raiders need Khalil Mack destroying opponent offenses and everybody else on defense to just not screw up — and that highest-level of Raiders defensive potential obviously wasn't in evidence on Sunday, either.

The Raiders need to feel confident. They can't lose faith. And sometimes … well, they do lose faith. They lost it Sunday. And this is all a bit fragile and dependent on the Raiders' best guys playing their best as often as possible.

Which means they need Del Rio to keep them together and psychologically uplifted.

To that point, Del Rio made sure to say that he didn't believe the Raiders' lousy performance had anything to do with their pregame protest during the national anthem. Again, look at this psychologically: What does Del Rio have to gain by saying anything else, even if he felt otherwise? This is what his team leaders wanted to do, and they did it united.

Plus, several Washington players protested, too, so to blame anything on the pregame activities is just excuse-mongering.

The Raiders were beaten soundly, they were outplayed and outschemed and outhustled, and maybe it'll happen again soon, maybe even Sunday in Denver.

But the healthiest teams bounce back from their worst moments, if they have a coach who plays it right, and we saw and heard Del Rio's treatment method for this on Monday.

—Reported from Alameda

 

[sohi 23]

Conley didn't practice today

 

[notoriousmj23]

Amari can't catch the easy passes that we need on 3rd down, but will making a leaping catch in triple coverage smh. I was at the store on Saturday, looking to buy a Lynch jersey. They didn't have my size, but they had Coop. I let it down, just like he does when we need to move th chains.

chill lololol

 

[njavier03]

chill lololol

why? as talented as he is as a route runner, he can't catch the damn ball. he's starting to remind me of DHB.

 

[laker4lifeman]

Stop it DHB

 

[ThePeoplesChamp_]

Baseball Field being covered up today as we speak

 

[northoaklandfc]

Dudes turning on Coop already and not just here.

 

[raider5]

Baseball Field being covered up today as we speak

You work for the coliseum bruh?

Asking for a friend...

 

[njavier03]

I’m not turning on him. I’m just disappointed. It’s his 3rd year, and he’s still dropping a lot of key passes.

 

[ThePeoplesChamp_]

You work for the coliseum bruh?

Asking for a friend...

I work for Oakland Athletics in stadium operations and I use to work for the Raiders. I had to drop off something today and I took a pic inside

 

[laker4lifeman]

http://fox4kc.com/2017/09/27/30-yea...iefs-players-were-center-stage-for-nfl-drama/

Del Rio the bully

 

[northoaklandfc]

I’m not turning on him. I’m just disappointed. It’s his 3rd year, and he’s still dropping a lot of key passes.

He dropped 4 passes last season. 4.