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Originally Posted by Fundamental21Ticket
For a person with over 6000+ posts, I'd like to think you're smarter than this. You may not like Duncan as a player, but to criticize him for the way he dresses is ******ed. Lock this post because nobody is going to agree with this numskull.
i said active nba players meaning who are still playing, not retired.Originally Posted by FYALADY
Must have redefined the term "active" when we talkin about NBA player's status. I mean Kobe do be killing them with little effort and all, but he's still being active.
and for the record of course accolades and all that do matter, but that is by no means the full measure of a person's skill. Hakeem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duncan in every facet of the game. LITERALLY and he only got 3 rings,1 MVP, and played in one of most competitive eras for big men. Duncan is really a GREAT player, but he's also a beneficiary of a really good situation.
Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
that last ring one of these?Originally Posted by bonafide hustla
LITERALLY and he only got 3 rings,
rockets only won 2 rings and he definitely didnt get one somewhere else.
2 MVP's, 3 Finals MVP's, 4 rings, All NBA first team pretty much every year of his career. Yeah this guy just doesn't bring it every nightOriginally Posted by epox12
With this guy's skill level, if he played with energy like an Amare or KG, he would be unstoppable, instead he decides to be stiff as a board.
He just played in a more dominant big man era and he also played in the MJ era.
a big man era wasnt necessary for Duncan as there was one particularly nasty big man he had to meet up with every season in the playoffs.
also i believe all of hakeems success came when the league was mj-less.
And that whole best PF ever thing is slightly out of context cuz this man isn't even really solidified into the top 10, he's like 10 at best.
name 10 pf's better.
there isnt even one.
duncan is the best power forward ever.
With this guy's skill level, if he played with energy like an Amare or KG, he would be unstoppable, instead he decides to be stiff as a board.
ENOUGH with this whole energy/intensity thing. It's mind boggling.
It is extremely puzzling to me that anyone with a fully developed and functioning adult mind cant comprehend the difference between energy/intensity andtheatrics.
Duncan does the exacty same things as the others do at the exact same level.
However because when he catches an ally oop he just flushes and runs back down court instead of pulling his arm way back then yelling afterwards that means hetried less?
When he hits a clutch j but doesnt pound his chest like a gorilla afterwards that means he tried less?
When he's in a close game and he doesnt waive the crowd to 'pump it up' he's trying less?
If he did all that crap then suddenly 15 more points and 8 more rebounds suddenly jump onto his career numbers?
Duncan has 21 ppg, 12 rebs, 3 ast, and 2.5 blocks for his CAREER, which spans over a decade.
He did that by not trying 100%?
Cram it through your thick heads that it is NOT A MATTER OF ENERGY/PASSION/INTENSITY.
IT IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF THEATRICS AND STYLE OF PLAY.
Seriously its sad that such a simple concept cant be grasped by so many.
Really? because ive heard Duncan referred to as the best basketball player on the planet while watching bball numerous times in the past.Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
bonafide hustla wrote:
Duncan has never been the consensus best player in the league really ever since he's joined the NBA, so like I said earlier all that hardware don't tell the full story.
Clutchshooter wrote:
bonafide hustla wrote:
He just played in a more dominant big man era and he also played in the MJ era.
a big man era wasnt necessary for Duncan as there was one particularly nasty big man he had to meet up with every season in the playoffs.
also i believe all of hakeems success came when the league was mj-less.
Your first sentence didnt sound like a serious rebuttal at all, so if you want to clear that up before I respond feel free to or not to.
As for the 2nd statement, see the problem is you equating "success" with hardware. I'm telling you that hardware isn't a measure of success. Hakeem could do EVERYTHING DUNCAN DID BUT BETTER. THERE IS NOTHING DUNCAN CAN DO HAKEEM COULDN'T. Shoot,dribble, free throws, pass, rebound, defend, block shots, breathe, whatever u want to say Hakeem did it better. Ducanjust happened to be in a better situation than Hakeem his entire career. I aint a big stat guy, but let me lay it out for u with emphasis on importance:
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[/td] [td].613[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td].702[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td].696[/td] [td]
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[h2]Duncan Per Game[/h2]
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[/td] [td]11.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td].495[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].690[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]11.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]21.7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1999-00[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].490[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].761[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]3.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.3[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2000-01[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].499[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].618[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]12.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]22.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2001-02[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].508[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].799[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]12.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]25.5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2002-03[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].513[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].710[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]12.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2003-04[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].501[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].599[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]12.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]22.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2004-05[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].496[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].670[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]11.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]1.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]20.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2005-06[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].484[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].629[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]11.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]18.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2006-07[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].546[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].637[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]10.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]20.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2007-08[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]SAS[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].497[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].730[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]11.3[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]1.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]19.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].508[/td] [td]
[/td] [td].684[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]11.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]21.6[/td] [/tr][/table]
Very comparable career numbers. Then factor in Hakeem playing against MUCH better competition every year. Then factor in Hakeem's demise which kicked inaround 97. Duncan is going to have to really show me something serious to even hold a torch to Hakeem. It's not really even close. Then let's factorDuncan is probably going to be entering his demise soon if he hasn't already. I mean like this isn't close...
Clutchshooter wrote:
bonafide hustla wrote:
And that whole best PF ever thing is slightly out of context cuz this man isn't even really solidified into the top 10, he's like 10 at best.
name 10 pf's better.
there isnt even one.
duncan is the best power forward ever.
I guess I didn't clarify. For me to say he isn't a top 10 PF ever would be really ******ed. He's neck and neck with Barkley imo for #1. I'dgive a slight nod to Chuck right now, but I think they're close. in any case, Duncan is supposed to be the best PF ever, but he isn't barely sniffingtop 10 ever is what I was trying to say.
Originally Posted by Ace3han
I did not know Hakeem was a Power Forward? His peers? You think that when his peers face him in a game they are going to think "Oh this is going to be easy". You think that everybody was salivating to play the Spurs?
As for Kobe being the best. Since you seem to like stats:
Kobe MVP
07-08 LAL GP 82 GS 82 MPG 38.9 FG% 0.459 3P% 0.361 FT% 0.840 RPG 6.3 APG 5.4 SPG 1.8 BPG 0.5 TO 3.13 PPG 28.3
Chris Paul
07-08 NOH GP 80 GS 80 MPG 37.6 FG% 0.488 3P% 0.369 FT% 0.851 RPG 4.0 APG 11.6 SPG 2.7 BPG 0.1 TO 2.51 PPG 21.1
*Led the league in APG
Lebron James
07-08 CLE GP 75 GS 74 MPG 40.4 FG% 0.484 3P% 0.315 FT% 0.712 RPG 7.9 APG 7.2 SPG 1.8 BPG 1.1 TO 3.40 PPG 30.0
Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules
his entire career duncan has never been the best player in the league
98 - mj was better
99-2002 - shaq was better
2003-present - kobe was better
you can even say that from 00-02 iverson was the better then duncan
he lead the league in scoring a couple seasons won an mvp and took a crap team to the finals
and garnett was def. better then him in 04
and hakeem>>>>>> duncan
and yes you can compare them because they are the same size and play the same type of game
except hakeem always had to guard the opponents best big man
duncan for years had d-rob do that for him
and after d-rob retired he had some of his other centers do it a little too
.
Originally Posted by bchimcuter
Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules
his entire career duncan has never been the best player in the league
98 - mj was better
99-2002 - shaq was better
2003-present - kobe was better
you can even say that from 00-02 iverson was the better then duncan
he lead the league in scoring a couple seasons won an mvp and took a crap team to the finals
and garnett was def. better then him in 04
and hakeem>>>>>> duncan
and yes you can compare them because they are the same size and play the same type of game
except hakeem always had to guard the opponents best big man
duncan for years had d-rob do that for him
and after d-rob retired he had some of his other centers do it a little too
.