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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892837
Pepper your angus for a new age of free thinkers and strong advances in science.
US Protestants no longer a majority.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892837
Pepper your angus for a new age of free thinkers and strong advances in science.
weekz
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Yay for rationality.
Like the avy by the way.
Like the avy by the way.
futuremd
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I highlight this with the fact that "nonbelievers" don't share anything in common. Its just the response to one claim, that of which is asserted by christianity. It doesn't mean you're less of irrational, more liberal, or more educated on actual science. Everyone is already an "atheist" with regards to the other things they DONT believe. Thats all the word means in the first plce.
It doesn't mean that you can't be hateful or that you're still an unreasonable person.
Its merely that religion is dying off and they're fighting hard to resist their losses.
However, without the internet (and some say 9/11), this would never have been possible.
It doesn't mean that you can't be hateful or that you're still an unreasonable person.
Its merely that religion is dying off and they're fighting hard to resist their losses.
However, without the internet (and some say 9/11), this would never have been possible.
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Our diabolical plan is working! Muahahahahaha!
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Thank God.
futuremd
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Which one?
futuremd
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Don't forget my boy:
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Folks are starting to realize that you do not need religion or a God to tell you to be a civilized, decent and respectful human being.
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Do white people still constitute over half the population?
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all in all it really isnt that bad... the mission/intent for religion and the goal pretty much has been accomplished. so all in all the powers that be really arent taking too much of a loss.. cause in the end the general agenda surrounding religion has been complete.
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yep.
I would say they are moving into the next phase.
Phasing out the old religions. to make way for something new.
futuremd
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To be honest with you, if this was to happen or whatever you think is going to happen, does happen...then they're going to have to roll it out in a very discrete manner.
We're too connected and have too much access to information to allow for BS to continually trump the masses in an overt manner.
Its going to get more difficult for that sort of stuff to slide by.
The internet has done more for secular causes than any other entity in history.
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I feel like the religious orgs are letting their secular arms take the forefront while they play behind the scenes.
This move has been coming for a while and there is a lot of inter fighting between church denominations.
Only now, they are doing it under the guise of carrying out prophecy.
White Horse Prophecy and Mitt Romney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy
Dominionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
The State of Israel.
I would argue that these fundamentalist groups are aware of the value of secularism and have been using it all along to interface with the politics, economics etc.
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futuremd
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See I disagree.
Dominionism is just christianity in overdrive. It started with the GOP being overrun by christian fundamentalists. I don't see how thats secular in any fashion.
And I know mormons want a mormon in the white house, but thats not secular either...thats still religious efforts to run things from the top down.
How could you come to that conclusion?
And with the state of israel, there are many reasons people support it. If its not because of biblical doctrine, it can be linked to its location in the ME, its government in the ME, and the jews with the "never again" mentality. There are literally dozens of unique reasons people support israel.
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Any effort by a religious organization to deal politics, economics and law is meddling with secular affairs. Granted it's been happening for hundreds to thousands of years doesn't take away from the fast they are meddling in secular affairs.
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That secular organizations of the children of religious organizations meant to serve as an interface to the world. We discuss daily how much blood religion has on it's hands.
They put on different clothes at times because as we move into the information age more and more like you say, people feel as if they have more evidence to back up their reasoning for not taking the church or other religious orgs seriously.
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All of this.
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I'm a middle-class college-educated white anglo-saxon protestant male. I never understood why this topic (denominational population percentages) matters to anyone other than "bragging rights". I grew up Southern Baptist because that's what my parents chose and I'm now a Presbyterian because that's what my wife is - and she's the boss.
The theological differences between most protestant churches are minimal at best, anyway. I like religion much more than the political church. I guess what puzzles me the most is that my friends and family are too busy leading our own modest lives to worry about stuff like this.
I'm a practicing Christian but I'll be the first to admit that the Bible in general and certain stories specifically are just as strange and confusing as Catholicism, Judaism, or Islam. They all require the same geniuine faith and suspension of rationality to believe.
And if you and I don't agree on religion (or politics or sneakers for that matter) that's okay. Our differences are what makes things interesting.
One of my favorite song lyrics sums up how I feel about ultimately not knowing what happens after death: "See you in heaven if you make the list" (Man in the Moon - REM)
I'm a practicing Christian but I'll be the first to admit that the Bible in general and certain stories specifically are just as strange and confusing as Catholicism, Judaism, or Islam. They all require the same geniuine faith and suspension of rationality to believe.
And if you and I don't agree on religion (or politics or sneakers for that matter) that's okay. Our differences are what makes things interesting.
One of my favorite song lyrics sums up how I feel about ultimately not knowing what happens after death: "See you in heaven if you make the list" (Man in the Moon - REM)
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When discussing what should be taught in schools, abortion, and gay marriage a "suspension of rationality" is got a good thing
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Just because religious affiliation is dying off doesn't mean nonbeliever numbers are growing. As the article stated, people are starting to become more spiritual and less religious, so you're still going to have people that believe in a higher power/supreme being/creator just not the one of the Abrahamic faiths or other major beliefs. Still a good thing though, it's better to look within yourself and find the answers than follow someone/something else.
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AND we're done here.I'm a middle-class college-educated white anglo-saxon protestant male. I never understood why this topic (denominational population percentages) matters to anyone other than "bragging rights". I grew up Southern Baptist because that's what my parents chose and I'm now a Presbyterian because that's what my wife is - and she's the boss.The theological differences between most protestant churches are minimal at best, anyway. I like religion much more than the political church. I guess what puzzles me the most is that my friends and family are too busy leading our own modest lives to worry about stuff like this.
I'm a practicing Christian but I'll be the first to admit that the Bible in general and certain stories specifically are just as strange and confusing as Catholicism, Judaism, or Islam. They all require the same geniuine faith and suspension of rationality to believe.
And if you and I don't agree on religion (or politics or sneakers for that matter) that's okay. Our differences are what makes things interesting.
One of my favorite song lyrics sums up how I feel about ultimately not knowing what happens after death: "See you in heaven if you make the list" (Man in the Moon - REM)
It matters because for eons you all have taken the de facto position of basically having your influence in society being run by a book you barely even follow while the rest of us get treated as pariahs because we don't buy into your little rituals.
You're basically making it sound like its no big deal and that we don't have anything to discuss.
But you're ok with that because as you say: "They all require the same geniuine faith and suspension of rationality to believe."
Oh really? Thats where we are now?
Thats like saying: "I don't see the point of statistics that show how many people support gay rights or evolution...it seems like bragging rights to me"
On top of that, you're a basically a WASP-Male? What do you know about being marginalized bruh?
What?
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it sucks that atheist suffer so much from people who believe in God.
poor souls.
poor souls.
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"only 48% of adults"
