spot rusherz
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Didn't some people press charges?
Where were you during the Pacers vs Pistons BRAWL?
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This was a classic, and I'm glad i saw it
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- its simple, Artest wasnt scared of Big Ben. to him it was all a big show, Artest had been in altercation after altercation so he just chilled. the fan? the fan was out of bounds because it didnt have anything to do with him, so he had it coming.Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Originally Posted by Pmighty
Have you seen Ben Wallace?Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz
Pmighty wrote:
ron artest scared of ben wallace
clown
all im sayin if your a tough guy be a tough guy. dont be scared of ben wallace but then jump in the stands. not to mention ben isnt that much bigger than dude anyway but w/e.
dudes shouldnt be scared of other dudes in the 1st place but thats besides the point
yea he jus happened to turn into a saint when ben was comin at him huh
- its always been my belief that the NBA should have went just as hard on Ben Wallace for being the main instigator, they only gave him a few games or so.
dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong withyou
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dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.
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I was watching the game and right before it happened i went to bathroom, from the bathroom i heard all the commotion, when i came back i saw the replay I waslike
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, then
@ ron artest punchin the wrong guy lol
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- actually what most forget is there was a long period of time where Ron was just laying on the table and the crowd was silent. he started messing with theequipment on the table, playing around and the whole time Ben was throwing towels and still trying to amp the crowd up. well, they have a name for that, theycall it inciting a riot. during that time the crowd got more and more rowdy. then the white cat wearing the Ben Wallace warmup in the crowd tries to be slickand throw the cup on the sly.
- dont get me wrong, im not saying Ben was in the wrong for trying to get at Artest. im just a realist, and tell it like it is. the NBA has been very hard onthose that instigate and/or do things to make the situation worse and thats exactly what Ben was doing. thing is with most footage you dont see those stalemoments when Ben was acting a fool. all you see is the action.
- again i say. had Ben not been trying to amp up that crowd and throwing towels there would have been no brawl. the white dude that threw the cup felt it wasokay because Ben was doing it
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- dont get me wrong, im not saying Ben was in the wrong for trying to get at Artest. im just a realist, and tell it like it is. the NBA has been very hard onthose that instigate and/or do things to make the situation worse and thats exactly what Ben was doing. thing is with most footage you dont see those stalemoments when Ben was acting a fool. all you see is the action.
- again i say. had Ben not been trying to amp up that crowd and throwing towels there would have been no brawl. the white dude that threw the cup felt it wasokay because Ben was doing it
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dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.
now im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but correct if im wrong. but youre tellin me if you shoot me in the face(no moho) because dirty hypedyou up to do so then he should get the close to if not the same time as you do. is that what youre sayin in so many words??
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QBs Finest @ its best! I was watching the game on TV like $!* just happened.
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
- Jul 8, 2008
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QBs Finest @ its best! I was watching the game on TV like %!# just happened.
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
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QBs Finest @ its best! I was watching the game on TV like $#% just happened.
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
LMAO @ Steve Jack pulling a O-Dog on that fan. That UGK came out that nig
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Pmighty wrote:
dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.
now im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but correct if im wrong. but youre tellin me if you shoot me in the face(no moho) because dirty hyped you up to do so then he should get the same close if not the same time as you do. is that what youre sayin in so many words??
- ill answer your question, but first: would you agree that there exists such a charge as inciting a riot? if so, then would you agree that Ben was guilty ofthis?
- onto the question, in a word YES. its not that i agree with it personally but thats been the NBA's policy. my argument is with the consistency. whenCarmelo got in his trouble it was because his involvement took the fight to a whole new level. same with Diaw and Amare, the potential of their involvement gotthem suspended. the NBA is just as hard on the instigators as they are the ones that actually do the deed.
- however, your analogy is flawed. we're not talking about someone minding their business and someone does harm to them because someone amped them up to doit. we're talking about a fight between 2 people. one person doesnt feel as if he got all his frustrations out on the individual, so he begins to involvethe crowd. and if the individual that tries to involve the crowd is successful he is just as much to blame as the anyone.
- i remember those days. Artest was messing with everyone he could just like Rodman. i understand completly Ben reacting the way he did initialy. everyone atthat time was tired of Ron and his antics. if you (Ben) want to fight him, cool. why involve the crowd? thats between you two.
- when i seen the fight years ago there was a video of a different angle where you could see the stuff Ben was doing and how he kept amping the crowd up. iposted a link to a video below and at the 1:18 mark you can hear the crowds reaction to his antics. also, pay attention to what the commentators were sayingabout Ben and how he should be removed........why? because he can incite a riot which he did.
- matter of fact, any of the ESPN videos keep cutting to the replay, but the local Detroit video (if you can find them) only show whats going on.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=I6h4SZHNGJ7OqwLYia2yBQ&q=pistons+brawl&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/v...q=pistons+brawl&hl=en
chico cummings
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That was 2 days after my 25th B-day and the date of my homeboy's b-day. We were drinking and watching the gamebefore heading to the club. The whole house was shocked
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- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Pmighty wrote:
dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
now im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but correct if im wrong. but youre tellin me if you shoot me in the face(no moho) because dirty hyped you up to do so then he should get the same close if not the same time as you do. is that what youre sayin in so many words??
- ill answer your question, but first: would you agree that there exists such a charge as inciting a riot? if so, then would you agree that Ben was guilty of this?
inciting a riot?? so dude who threw the cup or w/e at ron shouldnt recive any type of punishment then right, because based on your logic it wasnthis fault he threw it, it was all ben right??
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now im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but correct if im wrong. but youre tellin me if you shoot me in the face(no moho) because dirty hyped you up to do so then he should get the same close if not the same time as you do. is that what youre sayin in so many words??Originally Posted by Pmighty
- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Pmighty wrote:
dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
- ill answer your question, but first: would you agree that there exists such a charge as inciting a riot? if so, then would you agree that Ben was guilty of this?
inciting a riot?? so dude who threw the cup or w/e at ron shouldnt recive any type of punishment then right, because based on your logic it wasnt his fault he threw it, it was all ben right??
- onto the question, in a word YES. its not that i agree with it personally but thats been the NBA's policy. my argument is with the consistency. when Carmelo got in his trouble it was because his involvement took the fight to a whole new level. same with Diaw and Amare, the potential of their involvement got them suspended. the NBA is just as hard on the instigators as they are the ones that actually do the deed.
how can you compare what melo did to what happened between ron and ben. those are three totally different situations. melo rocked dude(he got games for that) the other two left the bench(they got games for that) ben "started a war" or riot or w/e(he got games for that) this dude ron JUMPED IN THE STANDS. nothin compares to that. he deserved all time he got. i get what your sayin about ben startin errything but theres no way ron and ben should get the same time
- c'mon man. stay on topic. i never said anything about the dude that actually threw the cup. i was talking about Ron's sentence v. what Ben got. howthe ++$@ you gon suspend the dude that threw the cup??
- im comapring those 3 incidents because of the NBA's stance on someone making a situation worse. understand that was the NBA's whole basis forsuspending Melo, Amare, and Diaw. look it up. Ben Wallace did the same thing they did.
- read my dude.....READ. sure Melo got in trouble for the fight, it was him taking the fight to another level that got him the extra time he got. same withDiaw and Amare. Nash and Horry were under control, if Amare and Diaw had got loose who knows what would have happened? thats what the NBA stood on.
- again......*ahem*, AGAIN, this is not my views, but how the NBA sees it. my argument is consistency. IM NOT COMPARING INFRACTIONS. imnot saying what someone did was worse or better, but rather that same when it came to escalating an incident.
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- oh and i see you agree Ben was inciting a riot. so you mean to tell me you've never heard of someone getting in just as much trouble for inciting a riotas the people that actually did most of the damage?? riiiiiight.
- thing is, you feel Ben was justified in doing what he did to Ron. and im not arguing that. but dont let that get in the way of calling a spade a spade. mosttimes people incite the type of riot...or brawl Ben did they dont get off light.....he did.
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i dont even watch the nba religiously but for some reason i had the game on that night, i was like this is rediculous is this really happening?! ... and i wasno good when i think it was ron artest went to lay down on the announcers table!
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Living in VA watching it...that was crazy it started with Ben Wallace from what I remember someone got hit wit a ball then it was overrrrr...that sliding punchwas sooooo funny!
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now im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but correct if im wrong. but youre tellin me if you shoot me in the face(no moho) because dirty hyped you up to do so then he should get the same close if not the same time as you do. is that what youre sayin in so many words??Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Pmighty wrote:
- it simple. had Ben not repeatedly thrown his arms up to the crowd amping them up, no cup would have ever been thrown = no brawl.Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Pmighty wrote:
dude didnt go out of his way to hit fred the construction worker or any other fans(or anybody period if i remember correctly) wth is wrong with you
- ill answer your question, but first: would you agree that there exists such a charge as inciting a riot? if so, then would you agree that Ben was guilty of this?
inciting a riot?? so dude who threw the cup or w/e at ron shouldnt recive any type of punishment then right, because based on your logic it wasnt his fault he threw it, it was all ben right??
- onto the question, in a word YES. its not that i agree with it personally but thats been the NBA's policy. my argument is with the consistency. when Carmelo got in his trouble it was because his involvement took the fight to a whole new level. same with Diaw and Amare, the potential of their involvement got them suspended. the NBA is just as hard on the instigators as they are the ones that actually do the deed.
how can you compare what melo did to what happened between ron and ben. those are three totally different situations. melo rocked dude(he got games for that) the other two left the bench(they got games for that) ben "started a war" or riot or w/e(he got games for that) this dude ron JUMPED IN THE STANDS. nothin compares to that. he deserved all time he got. i get what your sayin about ben startin errything but theres no way ron and ben should get the same time
- c'mon man. stay on topic. i never said anything about the dude that actually threw the cup. i was talking about Ron's sentence v. what Ben got. how the %*%$ you gon suspend the dude that threw the cup??
- im comapring those 3 incidents because of the NBA's stance on someone making a situation worse. understand that was the NBA's whole basis for suspending Melo, Amare, and Diaw. look it up. Ben Wallace did the same thing they did.
- read my dude.....READ. sure Melo got in trouble for the fight, it was him taking the fight to another level that got him the extra time he got. same with Diaw and Amare. Nash and Horry were under control, if Amare and Diaw had got loose who knows what would have happened? thats what the NBA stood on.
i was talking about Ron's sentence v. what Ben got. how the %*%$ you gon suspend the dude that threw the cup??
yea man i know what the hell you were talkin about i wasreferrin to somethin you said earlier but it dont matter, i dont feel like lookin for it. i kno the nba can cant suspend somebodys who's not in thenba. i was tryin to say when the police or security orwhoever got a hold to him he wouldnt be punished in anyway because he can say it was all bens fault since he started errythin and that the dude would get offscott free(i mean based on your logic)
i feel like im repeatin myself in here though. youre sayin ben should get the same time or close to what ron got. im sayin i dont believe so because what rondid was worse imo. i get what your sayin about melo, diaw, and amare and the rule of instigating and leavin the bench and all that other stuff in the league. ifeel you but imo those situations dont compare to what happened in detroit. thats all i was tryin to say
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NEVER seen this?
what the f...
spot rusherz
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Detroit STAY takin Ls
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Watching it live
Doing my homework while watching the game..I hear Bill Walton say, "and a HARD foul by Artest..and OHHEHHHHH" I look up and Wallace had just shovedArtest
By the way, after this wasn't there something instituted where stations couldn't show fights going on?
Doing my homework while watching the game..I hear Bill Walton say, "and a HARD foul by Artest..and OHHEHHHHH" I look up and Wallace had just shovedArtest
By the way, after this wasn't there something instituted where stations couldn't show fights going on?
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I was watching the game, but I changed the channel a few seconds before the fight, because I thought the game was over. When I saw the highlights on ESPN I waslike "When did this happen? I just watched the game".
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that team was so g
Stephen Jackson went WAY too hard
Stephen Jackson went WAY too hard
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I turned to the channel a few seconds before the foul and the fight erupted before my eyes. My whole family was watching too.
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At home watching the game.
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chilling at the crib and when I saw it live... my jaw just dropped to the ground and was in disbelief at Artest and O'Neal
