Which do you think is harder to do: Mixed Martial Arts or Pro Wrestling?

Apples and oranges.

Not big on pro wrestling but it I understand its entertainment value.

Mixed martial arts is a legitimate sport whereas pro wrestling is exactly what it's marketed as, "sports entertainment".

Brock ain't no *****, juice or no juice. We have weight classes for this reason but if McGregor wanted to play around with Brock the way he did the mountain he would find himself on the ground getting absolutely worked.

It's also intellectually dishonest to act as if PED use isn't rampant in MMA as well.

I don't really get the point of Conor's rant. Most wrestlers probably don't fancy themselves as legitimate tough guys. While I'm sure there are quite a few that take themselves too seriously I'd imagine the intelligent and successful ones are probably very down to earth when it comes to their personal lives.
 
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this is all a shoot...mcgregor has been rumored to go to wwe for some time...vince is a master troll, conner getting paid
 
SneakerHeathen said:
Most wrestlers probably don't fancy themselves as legitimate tough guys. While I'm sure there are quite a few that take themselves too seriously I'd imagine the intelligent and successful ones are probably very down to earth when it comes to their personal lives.
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Definitely two separate disciplines...one requires its competitors to endure tremendous punishment a limited number of times annually while the other is a yearlong grind.

Is football harder than baseball or does it just require a separate set of skills?
 
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professional wrestling is without a doubt the most physically, mentally, and spiritually demanding of the two.


martial arts, boxing, kick boxing etc....those can all be learned.

but being a great showman and actor, to pull at peoples emotions, to captivate the audience with more than just your fighting skill.

that is genuinely tough.

And to top it off, after all of the rigorous training, unfavorable scheduling, and unpredictable future, you then have to deal with the constant ridicule of your sport not being "authentic"


shame really.
 
FLESH PRINCE said:
 
...yes

You'd do a baseball or basketball game for charity or "for fun" before you'd go out there as a grown *** man and get tackled by other grown *** men "for fun"
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Easy answer until you have to try to guess the location of 93mph curve in less than a second, turn a double play with a runner coming in spikes high or chase down a screaming line drive from left to right center to save the game. Besides, let's not act like exhibition games in any sport feature athletes going at their hardest...ever heard of the Pro Bowl?
 
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No? Most of them seem pretty sensible when they're not in character.
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I was moreso referring to them not thinking pro wrestling makes them "tough guys".

Most do, and rightfully so. People say every match is like putting your body through a car accident.

As far as the mental state of them, recently post-Benoit, it seems it's more regulated and controlled, but there are a lot of sad stories. You're generally successful in your post-wrestling career if you aren't an alcoholic or drug addict wrestling at 70 and doing mall signings that no one shows up to.
 
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When you say harder to do do you mean learn or be successful at?

I think it would be harder to be successful at pro wrestling cuz not only do I have to learn how to wrestle and the steps and routines of a fight, I gotta create my own personality, get a gimmick, possibly be charismatic or good at being a heel. Just winning would not be enough.

With MMA it would just be harder learning several martial arts to the point I'd be willing to risk fighting other ppl that are great at it.
 
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I was moreso referring to them not thinking pro wrestling makes them "tough guys".

Most do, and rightfully so. People say every match is like putting your body through a car accident.

As far as the mental state of them, recently post-Benoit, it seems it's more regulated and controlled, but there are a lot of sad stories. You're generally successful in your post-wrestling career if you aren't an alcoholic or drug addict wrestling at 70 and doing mall signings that no one shows up to.
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There's a difference between being a tough guy in the sense that one can take a lot of punishment and being a tough guy in the sense that you're literally in the top .001% of human beings walking the planet in terms of actually being able to fight.


These guys are killers and that's not hyperbole. Folks talk **** about Brock but wouldn't last 10 seconds against a Mark Hunt, Shane Carwin or a Frank Mir even if they were juiced to the gills.

It's a different kind of toughness. Johnny Knoxville is tough too I guess until he gets knocked out by Butterbean.

All those wrestlers were tough until they all got knocked out by Bart Gunn.

It's just different. If we're going to be honest, yes wrestling is difficult but that has a lot to do with the grind. The travel, the steroids, the lifestyle. I put that on the writers for wanting bigger and better instead of pushing diminutive technically sound guys. Daniel Bryan is an outlier, reality is freaky physiques sell in pro wrestling.

Benoit was a great technician but he wasn't a personality like Bryan. He had to start juicing to be seen as a legit Hw and well we saw what it did to him. The CTE didn't help either.

In a vacuum however, when it comes to the actual training and performing aspect. MMA and boxing require an entirely different kind of toughness. The guy across from you isn't pulling punches. He has a family to feed and he doesn't mind hospitalizing you to do that. It's actually madness the circumstances so many of these guys fight through to succeed.

Casual fans need not apply but those who actually watch boxing know the struggle of a journeyman fighter who leaves it all in the ring everytime they put on those gloves.


Modern day gladiators, like Rome, the ones who really live are the ones that win the crowd.
 
I thought amateur wrestlers trained the toughest. Only sport where I hear it's normal to puke a few times during practice.
 
Master Zik said:
When you say harder to do do you mean learn or be successful at?

I think it would be harder to be successful at pro wrestling cuz not only do I have to learn how to wrestle and the steps and routines of a fight, I gotta create my own personality, get a gimmick, possibly be charismatic or good at being a heel. Just winning would not be enough.

With MMA it would just be harder learning several martial arts to the point I'd be willing to risk fighting other ppl that are great at it.
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I disagree.

You must win the crowd in MMA and boxing. See that's the ticket.

So many highly ranked guys are absolutely obscure names to the general public.

It's the ones that manage to promote themselves that are able to break free from the cycle of fighting pay check to paycheck.

**** is soul sucking man. I don't think many realize it. So many fight 30-40+ times and still wouldn't be able to pay off their mortgage and send their kids off to college if they retired tomorrow.

In wrestling winning the crowd is the whole game, you don't have to be technically sound to really succeed. In boxing and MMA you have to be the total package.
 
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Master Zik said:
When you say harder to do do you mean learn or be successful at?

I think it would be harder to be successful at pro wrestling cuz not only do I have to learn how to wrestle and the steps and routines of a fight, I gotta create my own personality, get a gimmick, possibly be charismatic or good at being a heel. Just winning would not be enough.

With MMA it would just be harder learning several martial arts to the point I'd be willing to risk fighting other ppl that are great at it.
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Not to mention performing almost every night, constant travel, etc.
 
getting into the wwe is probably harder since the "roster" isn't as big.
my problem with the ufc is that the fighters stay getting screwed over with their pay and how they get treated. unless you are their guy, you probably have to work another side job. the wwe schedule is demanding, but it does pay well.
being a top wwe guy could lead to a lot of opportunities as far as movies, tv, etc. look at guys like the hogan, rock, cena, batista. i don't see anyone in mma would be able to get those opportunities. ufc's biggest draw was a WWE guy (brock)
 
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Yeah, wwe pay seems pretty good. If not 6 figures then close to it if you work consistently. You gotta pay for your own travel though. Do they get a cut of their merchandise sales?

ufc people get paid pennies and their training and coaches is expensive. Plus they only fight a few times a year. They gotta wear that reebok uniform garbage and people have lost a lot of their clothing endorsements.
 
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