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according to what we've seen in recent years, making the playoffs alone isnt enough, or Kobe would have had a stronger case in 06 and 07, and Wade last year.
Who is the 2010-11 NBA MVP?
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^ they were a .500 team, no damn guy is winning it if his team is only .500
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^ they were a .500 team, no damn guy is winning it if his team is only .500
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Rose or Durant.
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Rose or Durant.
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dirk deserves consideration
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Derrick Rose is a very good player, even a great player in this league today, he should be a candidate for most improved player no question,, the leaps he has made this year have been impressive without a doubt but in my eyes he is not the MVP and I'll tell you why.
The number one piece of evidence that people always point too when they talk about his MVP worthiness is his lack of support around him, I really think it's entirely untrue. He tons of support it's just not on offense The reason Chicago has been successful this year is chiefly because the defense that Tom Thibbadueu runs is incredible, Joakim Noah, Tah Gibson, Asik, Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, Deng, are really really effective NBA defenders Kyle Korver despite what his reputation may tell you has become pretty solid as well. Follow that with 2 elite rebounders, and 3 more really good ones the Bulls are have a stalwart defensive team that easily make up for Rose and Boozer (to a lesser extent).
This Rose MVP thing is clear example of NBA fans only looking at offensive ability, because that's the only way you can determine that Rose has no "help".
Now yes Derrick Rose is responsible for a large amount of their offense sure but for a large portion of the year he's been playing with a dude averaging almost 20 on 54% shooting.
Basically if I'm going to give you the MVP based on perceived value to the team, you better be fundamental to the winning aspects of the team, Steve Nash was fundamental to the best offense in the history of the NBA, Derrick Rose is fundamental to a bad offense and a hamper a great defensive team. Thats just the way I see it
But whatever, he's going to win anyways.
You think...Boozer's a better defender than Rose?
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Derrick Rose is a very good player, even a great player in this league today, he should be a candidate for most improved player no question,, the leaps he has made this year have been impressive without a doubt but in my eyes he is not the MVP and I'll tell you why.
The number one piece of evidence that people always point too when they talk about his MVP worthiness is his lack of support around him, I really think it's entirely untrue. He tons of support it's just not on offense The reason Chicago has been successful this year is chiefly because the defense that Tom Thibbadueu runs is incredible, Joakim Noah, Tah Gibson, Asik, Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, Deng, are really really effective NBA defenders Kyle Korver despite what his reputation may tell you has become pretty solid as well. Follow that with 2 elite rebounders, and 3 more really good ones the Bulls are have a stalwart defensive team that easily make up for Rose and Boozer (to a lesser extent).
This Rose MVP thing is clear example of NBA fans only looking at offensive ability, because that's the only way you can determine that Rose has no "help".
Now yes Derrick Rose is responsible for a large amount of their offense sure but for a large portion of the year he's been playing with a dude averaging almost 20 on 54% shooting.
Basically if I'm going to give you the MVP based on perceived value to the team, you better be fundamental to the winning aspects of the team, Steve Nash was fundamental to the best offense in the history of the NBA, Derrick Rose is fundamental to a bad offense and a hamper a great defensive team. Thats just the way I see it
But whatever, he's going to win anyways.
You think...Boozer's a better defender than Rose?
- Feb 16, 2006
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Right now its a 2-man race between LeBron and D.Rose. Unless the Bulls finish #1 in the East, x number of games ahead of the Heat, I can't see voters giving D.Rose the award.
- Feb 16, 2006
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Right now its a 2-man race between LeBron and D.Rose. Unless the Bulls finish #1 in the East, x number of games ahead of the Heat, I can't see voters giving D.Rose the award.
- Feb 12, 2005
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Rose.
I swear we just had this discussion.
I swear we just had this discussion.
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Rose.
I swear we just had this discussion.
I swear we just had this discussion.
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Oh yeah without question, Rose is truly terrible and has been so for along time not as horrific as he use to be but still certainly bad, Carlos not very good at defending pick and roll his due to his lack of athleticsm but he's strong, has good fundamentals solid on the low block.Originally Posted by amel223
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Derrick Rose is a very good player, even a great player in this league today, he should be a candidate for most improved player no question,, the leaps he has made this year have been impressive without a doubt but in my eyes he is not the MVP and I'll tell you why.
The number one piece of evidence that people always point too when they talk about his MVP worthiness is his lack of support around him, I really think it's entirely untrue. He tons of support it's just not on offense The reason Chicago has been successful this year is chiefly because the defense that Tom Thibbadueu runs is incredible, Joakim Noah, Tah Gibson, Asik, Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, Deng, are really really effective NBA defenders Kyle Korver despite what his reputation may tell you has become pretty solid as well. Follow that with 2 elite rebounders, and 3 more really good ones the Bulls are have a stalwart defensive team that easily make up for Rose and Boozer (to a lesser extent).
This Rose MVP thing is clear example of NBA fans only looking at offensive ability, because that's the only way you can determine that Rose has no "help".
Now yes Derrick Rose is responsible for a large amount of their offense sure but for a large portion of the year he's been playing with a dude averaging almost 20 on 54% shooting.
Basically if I'm going to give you the MVP based on perceived value to the team, you better be fundamental to the winning aspects of the team, Steve Nash was fundamental to the best offense in the history of the NBA, Derrick Rose is fundamental to a bad offense and a hamper a great defensive team. Thats just the way I see it
But whatever, he's going to win anyways.
You think...Boozer's a better defender than Rose?
- Aug 2, 2006
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Oh yeah without question, Rose is truly terrible and has been so for along time not as horrific as he use to be but still certainly bad, Carlos not very good at defending pick and roll his due to his lack of athleticsm but he's strong, has good fundamentals solid on the low block.Originally Posted by amel223
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Derrick Rose is a very good player, even a great player in this league today, he should be a candidate for most improved player no question,, the leaps he has made this year have been impressive without a doubt but in my eyes he is not the MVP and I'll tell you why.
The number one piece of evidence that people always point too when they talk about his MVP worthiness is his lack of support around him, I really think it's entirely untrue. He tons of support it's just not on offense The reason Chicago has been successful this year is chiefly because the defense that Tom Thibbadueu runs is incredible, Joakim Noah, Tah Gibson, Asik, Kurt Thomas, Keith Bogans, Deng, are really really effective NBA defenders Kyle Korver despite what his reputation may tell you has become pretty solid as well. Follow that with 2 elite rebounders, and 3 more really good ones the Bulls are have a stalwart defensive team that easily make up for Rose and Boozer (to a lesser extent).
This Rose MVP thing is clear example of NBA fans only looking at offensive ability, because that's the only way you can determine that Rose has no "help".
Now yes Derrick Rose is responsible for a large amount of their offense sure but for a large portion of the year he's been playing with a dude averaging almost 20 on 54% shooting.
Basically if I'm going to give you the MVP based on perceived value to the team, you better be fundamental to the winning aspects of the team, Steve Nash was fundamental to the best offense in the history of the NBA, Derrick Rose is fundamental to a bad offense and a hamper a great defensive team. Thats just the way I see it
But whatever, he's going to win anyways.
You think...Boozer's a better defender than Rose?
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Dirk Nowitzki
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Lebron will win it even though I don't want him to
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Lebron will win it even though I don't want him to
everysingletime
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Oh yeah without question, Rose is truly terrible and has been so for along time not as horrific as he use to be but still certainly bad, Carlos not very good at defending pick and roll his due to his lack of athleticsm but he's strong, has good fundamentals solid on the low block.
everysingletime
formerly amel223
- Apr 4, 2006
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Oh yeah without question, Rose is truly terrible and has been so for along time not as horrific as he use to be but still certainly bad, Carlos not very good at defending pick and roll his due to his lack of athleticsm but he's strong, has good fundamentals solid on the low block.
- Apr 18, 2005
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People keep talking about Lebron won't win because he plays with another MVP candidate yet you NEVER hear Wade being discussed as a serious MVP candidate this year.
That excuse is type lame and only used to discredit Lebron because of some kind of hate folks have for him. That's female !#*$, IMO.
That excuse is type lame and only used to discredit Lebron because of some kind of hate folks have for him. That's female !#*$, IMO.
- Apr 18, 2005
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People keep talking about Lebron won't win because he plays with another MVP candidate yet you NEVER hear Wade being discussed as a serious MVP candidate this year.
That excuse is type lame and only used to discredit Lebron because of some kind of hate folks have for him. That's female !#*$, IMO.
That excuse is type lame and only used to discredit Lebron because of some kind of hate folks have for him. That's female !#*$, IMO.
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