Who's Getting armed before obama

[th0mas cr0wn]

Dirty, it seems that you've finally purchased your firearm

what did you end up getting? the Walther?

 

[ar guy]

Originally Posted by LamarOwnsem

Originally Posted by Seattle206

You can't blame the law abiding citizens who wish to excerise their 2nd amendment rights.

I blame the government over the years for misinterpreting what the 2nd amendment actually says: the right for the people to have an armed militia.

 

[wrukus]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

for the record i'm not really against responsible people owning hand guns.

followed by

i just think that made up scenarios or the POSSIBILITY of something happening is a weak excuse for why you NEED a gun
but isn't that the reason why most people own guns in the first place...to protect themselves, Just in CASE?
thus...seems to me that by logical conclusion...you're against most gun ownership.

so where do we draw the line?...me?...I draw the line when it comes to my FAMILY and my HOME.

yes...violence can happen anywhere...but I'm going to do what is necessary to protect my family to the fullest extent I can...I'm not going to rely on a minister or someone else to protect my kids out in the world...but once they step into the house...I'm doing whatever I can to keep the world's evils at bay.....A DOG can be shot..their neck broken easily...a dude on PCP doesn't feel the effect of a pepper spray or tazer...but I know you can't easily dodge the spray of a double ought shotgun shell.

protect your family however you see fit.
and that's the bottom line... who is anyone else to say how I should can can legally protect my own family?

i do know that america has an insane gun lust and too many think that a gun is the answer to everything.
..and what do you suggest be done then?....ban guns?

THE WILD BOAR AND THE FOX

A Wild Boar was engaged in whetting his tusks upon the trunk of a tree in the forest when a Fox came by and, seeing what he was at, said to him, "Why are you doing that, pray? The huntsmen are not out to-day, and there are no other dangers at hand that I can see." "True, my friend," replied the Boar, "but the instant my life is in danger I shall need to use my tusks. There'll be no time to sharpen them then."




there's a variety of reasons why people own handguns. now i live in indiana. most people here own them for sport. home protection is justan added benefit. i've also lived in chicago, and phoenix. i've owned guns in multiple different cities. in phoenix i bought one cause i had beenharrassed multiple times by wannabe gangbangers (it wasnt the fear that they might harrass me. they actually were). in indiana i owned them more or less forsport and not protection. the point that i'm trying to make and you keep missing is that. there are different situations that require different messures. in this thread though i have yet to hear someone say why they NEEDED a gun. just a bunch of made up scenarios. again, i'm not against poeple doingwhatever they feel that they need to do. i just think that too many people think that they NEED guns and they justify it with some made up scenario thatprobably will never happen. if someone is gonna shoot your dog, or even better yet, break your dogs neck just to get at your daughter, he's probablyalready planned on you having a gun. by all means though, if your hood is full of crazy dog killing rapists, then get a lot of guns and good luck.

 

[imasoleman18]

i went to a gun store with my friend and he asked the sales guy if they had a stock for his gun or somthing and he was like no, ever since we elected our newpresident they've been sellin like crazy

 

[ar guy]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-hero2508dec25,0,232353.storyhttp://www.orlandosentine...o2508dec25,0,232353.story

Charles Johnson is a man of his word.

On Oct. 4, 1936, then 19, Johnson promised to love and protect his bride, Berlie Mae.

On Tuesday, he did.

Now 91, he scared off two home invaders with his 38-caliber revolver when the men threatened his wife of 72 years at their home east of Ocoee.

"I was going to kill him either way," the retired jack-of-all-trades said Wednesday. "She's all I've got to live for . . . Why would I want to live?"

Terror erupted in the Johnsons' heavily barred house on Lake Stanley Road shortly after 4 p.m. Tuesday as the couple watched TV news. She was sitting in her wheelchair. He was sitting nearby on the sofa.

That's when a stranger stepped through the back door.

"What are you doing? What are you doing?" Berlie Mae Johnson, 90, remembered asking as the man stepped on her shiny-clean tile floor. "By then, he had the gun to my head. I don't know what all I said."

The man ordered the couple: "Be quiet. Don't say a word. Don't move."

Overcome by shock and fear, Berlie Mae Johnson said she couldn't move as a second man wearing a stocking over his face started to come through a sliding-glass door from the backyard.

"It's terrible. You don't know what [they're] going to do. You expect at any moment . . ." she said, her voice breaking. "I can't hold up. My nerves are shot. He'd probably have killed me."

But the love of her life was ready.

Her husband, who goes by Johnny, had his stainless-steel Police Special revolver tucked under a cushion on the sofa. He has been protective, she said, ever since they met at a Church of God service in Cocoa during the Great Depression.

"You don't think, man. You do what you have to do," Johnson said of how he grabbed his revolver as the second intruder entered. "He saw the gun and, boy, he was gone."

Shifting his aim, Johnson fired at the man still holding a gun to his wife's head.

"I shot as plain in his middle as I could have," said Johnson, describing how the man jumped and ran out the door. "I think I missed."

Orange County deputy sheriffs began arriving within three minutes of Johnson's 911 call. The response was delayed slightly because the home invaders tore out the Johnsons' telephone, so Johnson had to walk next door to call for help.

A K-9 tracked the home invaders' scent until it disappeared through a neighborhood on the south shore of Lake Stanley. Local hospital emergency rooms were notified to be on the lookout for a man suffering from an unexplained bullet wound.

Johnson bought his revolver for protection decades ago. A former citrus grove manager and plumber, Johnson said, "I'm still active. I still garden. We want to get a message out to other people. Be prepared. Keep your doors locked. And be alert."

His wife added, "And have a gun ready."

The Johnsons weren't worried that the home invaders might return.

"If he comes back he'll be sorry," Johnson said. "I'm ready for him."
So he didn't need a gun?

 

[litlbibby]

not a good idea postin tagged pics of your gun on the internet. No joke gunit crips(cops) showed up to my cousins house questioning him cuz he had pictureswith glock .45's each hand on his mypsace. luckily he didnt have them at the house cuz my aunt would have killed him.

 

[essential1]

http://www.factcheck.org/...08/nra_targets_obama.html


Check it if you think Obama wants to take your guns... Its all the NRA propaganda because they are Republicans, and
try to use that he'll take our guns as more votes for GOP. They said the same of Kerry but spent double on Obama.
It also doesn't help that NRA is mainly rural white southern membership, yes I know it does have suburban members all
across the country but honestly that is their target market. It comes down to two things 1. he is of the opposing party
and 2 he is of opposing race. That is the problem. This "base" of the Republican Party is why they will have a hard time
ever winning elections unless they turn the "base" into reasonable human beings.

 

[mr delorean]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Wow just wow.. No one is touching the 2nd amendmant, and everyone knows he won't. You know why they are saying he will because his skin tone isn't white(I happen to be white).. Maybe YOUR motive isn't that but that is what the NRA's motive was.. Republicans kill me THERE IS NOTHING, NOTHING DIRTY ABOUT THE MAN. Just give it up. He isn't a Muslim, he is an American, he isn't racist, he won't kill off white people, he isn't a crooked politician, he doesn't accept bribes, he doesn't cheat on his wife, he takes care of his kids, he is highly intelligent, he is the real deal, and he won't rip up the constitution like the 42nd best president in the country (Bush) (he isn't 43rd because William Henry Harrison was just dumb)

And if he did do something to the 2nd amendment in terms of practical change to it good. Practical and legal change as long as it doesn't go against the constitution. But no one needs AK's and AR-15s, Machine Guns, you don't even need a pistol (yes I know not all that I said are legal).

it isnt for you to decide what someone else needs. if you desire socialism, move across the pond. semi-auto weapons...."assaultrifles"....are used in 1% or less of violent crime. instead of being lazy, and punishing law abiding citizens, why not put that wasted energy towardtackling the real issues?

oh, and congrats on showing your proficiency for throwing the race card....on the friggin gun control issue, of all things... the problem is his ultra-leftwing perspective, not skin color.

 

[mr jordan04]

Those who live in cali....what was the process you had to go through to get a gun?

 

[mr delorean]

Originally Posted by Essential1

That is the problem. This "base" of the Republican Party is why they will have a hard time
ever winning elections unless they turn the "base" into reasonable human beings.

youre off topic now, but the base of both parties are freak shows. the reasonable people are the moderates that fall somewhere between. i seeyou havent figured out yet that the political system is cyclical and the electorate just keep changing back and forth between parties after the last onemanages to screw up bad enough.

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by BabyfacedAssassin31

Nobody will ever convince me they NEED a gun

Originally Posted by FeelMode

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Nobody will ever convince me they NEED a gun

what are you going to do when a burglar breaks into your home and attempts to rape/kill your daughter?
wait for the police?

W

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Why wow? RIP son when the dude breaks in your house.

Originally Posted by LamarOwnsem

Originally Posted by Seattle206

You can't blame the law abiding citizens who wish to excerise their 2nd amendment rights.

I blame the government over the years for misinterpreting what the 2nd amendment actually says: the right for the people to have an armed militia.

I think you are misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment....

Originally Posted by Essential1

But no one needs AK's and AR-15s, Machine Guns, you don't even need a pistol (yes I know not all that I said are legal).

I got an AK-47 AND an AR-15 at home....

 

[seniosoul]

lol I'll never get a gun registered in my name. makes no sense what so ever.

 

[seattle206]

Wow, this thread blew up over night.

Don't care for any of the arguments here. You either support your rights or you don't, plain and simple. I will support my god damn rights until thesad day they are taken, even then they will have to pry them from my bloody hands.

 

[foshizzle]

Lets all get guns so we can all shoot each other, last man standing wins!

 

[essential1]

Delorean first off I never said take away people's 2nd amendment rights. I believe there needs to be practical change to it such as a moreprecise check into people who want a gun, also the gun carrying laws to be concise throughout the 50 states. The way they are written are just illogical,because if your from certain states you can carry in other states but can't carry in others but states you can carry in you may not be able to carry inplaces of states you can carry in. Also certain states require a licenses while others don't really require it and if your from another state you may ormay not need a license but if you don't have it in your possession you may or may not be prosecuted.

Also how can you prove that race isn't involved. Your implying I am throwing it across the room when I only need to place it on the table. The leaders ofthe NRA spent double what they did in 2004 on campaign propaganda. And as I said they are republican and always go after Dems but why the sudden double ofmoney just on campaigning. We will look the leaders of NRA shall we. They are older, white, rural and Southern men. Note I said leaders. Once again I am whiteso I know when whites are using race as a motivator.

Also me discussing the republican base is ON topic. Republicans consider NRA their "base". NRA were the ones starting the he willtake our guns shenanigans, therefore check your base because moderates or Democrats, progressives and liberals will never vote republicans if they use them asthe definition of real Americans because they are not more American than anyone else. If you want to get into the semantics of the word American they may beless so than everyone else.

 

[mr delorean]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Also how can you prove that race isn't involved. Your implying I am throwing it across the room when I only need to place it on the table. The leaders of the NRA spent double what they did in 2004 on campaign propaganda. And as I said they are republican and always go after Dems but why the sudden double of money just on campaigning. We will look the leaders of NRA shall we. They are older, white, rural and Southern men. Note I said leaders. Once again I am white so I know when whites are using race as a motivator.

dont ask me to prove that race isnt involved when you cant prove it is. obama is ultra left, it isnt difficult to comprehend. the nra crowd feltthe same about clinton, and as far as i can tell he is white. its also foolish for you to inject a lobby as a propaganda machine when both parties arecontrolled by their own groups of lobbyists. you need an independent perspective.

 

[air messiah]

Taking guns away is not going to solve any problems in the first place, To curb crime and all the other crazy problems we have in this country we need to deala complexity of issues.

Can anyone point out where this fear originated from?

 

[mr delorean]

Originally Posted by Air Messiah

Can anyone point out where this fear originated from?

in general, obama is a liberal, who like all liberals lazily come down on the wrong people with their gun control policies instead of tackling thereal issues. obama also hasnt exactly been gun rights-friendly in chicago, or illinois. im not really aware of anything new that has come to blow this up. iknow in seattle the mayor is threatening gun restrictions, against state law, and it has turned into public embarrassment for him.