As a person who loved science as a child to see where it ended up makes me loose all faith in believing science is here to help. People say science has made things much easier which is true, or it can all so be said that science has made us lazier and dumbed us down.
making life easier tends to do that.
Unless you'd be better off without refrigeration or the cotton gin.
I mean really you don't even have to know how to spell anymore, because auto type and spell check has got your back. We praise our almighty computers, laptops, smart phones, TV's, diet pills, etc. But the reality of it all is we only needed a certain extent of the technology we have today.
False. Making information more accessible makes us smarter overall. It makes us more reliant on it, but it allows us to spend our time not trying to find information, but USING that information.
But science is no different then politics it has gone to the corporations as well. S**t look at Apple. The craziest part is people fall for there simple little method of moving units. Which is holding out on useless tech. so they can drop another version every year.
Consumerism isn't the same as technically creating innovative products for the market.
Can science be politicized? Sure. Just like Football can be. But the process of learning more about the world is merely just that. What you choose to do with the information is up to you.
Apple's use of concepts in anodized aluminium is what allows them to make colored ipods.
Even the simplest thing is a result of our desire to learn more about how to use the world around us.
Science has caused children to have there body parts hacked off. They've been raped and murdered so we can get longer battery life out of our devices. So we can watch TV in HD. But nobodies talking about that.
Science did that?
Thats news to me.
Vice Guide has a documentary in the Congo where they talk about the mining of Coltan for electronics, but how is that "science?"
Thats, unfortunately, capitalism being used to exploit resources.
No one is talking about it because your argument is flawed. Thats why. People have been saying for years that we use conflict metals. But its the allocation and access to the metals that cause problems...not the metals/alloys/ores themselves.
The media assist in demonizing an entire religion for the actions of a few, but why not do the same with science.
Because religion says explicitly how to act. Science uncovers knowledge and leaves you free to do with it what you will. Religion doesn't vive you the creative license to be innovative. It asserts things without testing the validity or veracity of any of it.
No media outlet had anything to say about Bayer supposedly sending loads of blood thinning Meds to South America that they knew where tainted with HIV.
Actually, every media outlet spoke about it. Especially in germany. Thats why google is here. I guess
CBS,
MSNBC, or the
NYT not speaking about it doesn't matter.
How is this a flaw in medicine itself? An oversight and mishap on their behalf doesn't mean "science" is bad. Thats like saying our understanding of biochemistry means we should stop researching biological weapons.
Unless you'd be better off without the pills to the cure the ailments they were DESIGNED to cure in the first place.
They say science will cure HIV/AIDS and cancer. You know what happens when that day comes no more funding no more research grants. The cash cow is no longer. The biggest question is who created HIV/AIDS where did it come from?
RadioLab breaks this down:
http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/aids/
Its been traced to the early 20th century in central africa. Its a mutated simian virus. They eat tons of bush meat out there so something was bound to happen.
Why is it in the corn in certain African regions?
Proof?
HIV can't last long outside of a host. Its unstable just floating around on the surface of things.
Could it be to heighten the fear to help keep the government grants rolling in. That whole Anthrax thing back in the day was a scientist that did it to gain popularity for his vaccine. Why because at the end of the day science is a corporation. It's all about big business.
Big pharma is NOT "science"
Pharmaceutical companies USE our understanding of modern science to create things.
The pursuit of human knowledge is not the same as
What real truths have science given us.
Telomeres cause aging?
Ulcers are the result of bacteria?
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation?
...WHAT?
For those that believe in global-warming science is to blame for that through industry production, and the gasoline engine.
Thats not "science"
Thats the result of the industrial revolution. You can't keep linking progress of any sort that YOU benefit from as being somehow representative of why innovation is a bad thing.
We understand that global warming is real, but it doesn't mean we can't try to slow it down or stop it.
Science increased the rate of cancer by creating processed food, radio waves, etc.
This hasn't been proven. Especially the radio wave parts...especially since you're so "anti-radio" now. There might be a link to living close to power-lines though.
Processed foods? Depends which ones.
BUT overall the rate of cancer has gone up because we're also living longer. Also, we're no longer dying from things we used to die from. The overall incidence of disease IS LOWER.
The food should have been common sense to a scientist IMO.
Oh really?
If it takes longer to spoil in open air then what is it doing in the intestine's compared to regular food.
Yeah, forbid we have to feed billions of people on old-world farming tactics or try to transport goods over longer distances.
You can't have a modern society without innovations in agriculture. Techniques are getting better...but the world has only been doing this for barely 100 years.
Or maybe it was common science and the scientist just didn't care.
Yeah, youre right. No one cares about AZT or Penicillin.
All these bombs that create massive destruction.
Yeah. Boo science.
Understanding how nuclear physics works hasn't been beneficial at all...except in modern medicine or anything.
Pills that are supposed to help, but end up doing much more harm then anything.
If you feel like you can cure gonorrhea with prayer, go right ahead. Society will thank you for not adding to our bills paying for your healthcare.
I know this guy with crohns, and the meds they gave him help at the cost of him having two synthetic hips at the age of 30. Which is a side effect from his meds. We see the class action suits on TV new ones popping up every few months.
Side effects happen. Unless you think people were out to purposely harm your friend.
I know a girl with IBS. Does that mean science caused that too? Not to mention that in the past 5 years we've learned more about how to treat and possibly cure it.
But you'll just ignore that too...
They tell you what this planet is made out of and what the sun is made out of by just looking at it. If that isn't the dumbest s**t to believe in, but people do.
Yeah, now you're just being ri-damn-diculous.
Its called gas and light spectroscopy.
If you don't know what this is, then I can't help you.
Take a basic chemistry or physics class. Everyone in there knows this. Catch up.
Are you serious right now?
The truth of it all is science is and has been a religion.
False. Science doesn't assert things it can't prove.
Religion does.
Science is open to being wrong and changing its stance.
Religion does not.
People live by it and follow it to the tee, but science hasn't proven itself.
Thats how the entire scientific method works.
The cold hard facts and evidence you all bank on gets disputed and disregarded every time some new technology or new discovery comes along to crush the old evidence. Yet people still treat science as if it's the gospel.
Because thats how we learn
Unless you'd be cool with us just saying that we shouldn't change the notion of the earth as the center of the universe.
The fact that science can get things wrong, admit it, and correct the error is what makes it beautiful. Religion doesn't allow that sort of honesty OR attention to error correction.
But you're right. Since we learned more about AIDS or how to treat the flu EVERY DAMN YEAR we can't use it.
Really what is sillier to do believe in a being that can't be seen or follow a man full of flaws just like you that maybe caring arterial motives and objectives.
A man of flaws who recognizes his flaws and works to correct them is more admirable than one who claims to be perfect.
And its not "arterial" motives. Its Ulterior. Anything "arterial" refers to vasculature.
Real talk, if you're so "anti-science" go log off NT and get lost in the trees. Hook up with Les Stroud and make it happen.
I'm tired of all this demagoguery focused on equating science to religion.
Its not the same. It can't even be compared.
In fact, science has no stance on religion, merely the validity or legitimacy of the claims that are presented.
If you want to use your knowledge of gravity to make a bomb or create levitating cars, DO THAT...but dont sit here and act like because some people used smallpox in blankets as opposed to reverse engineering bacteria to create insulin that all of a sudden that they're all one in the same negative things.
Science isn't a "thing"
Science is a process. 
