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Miz made the IC title great. I loved the videos WWE would post every day of him putting another sticker on the belt representing another day of his reign.
 
I think that speaks more to the weakness of the booking of the title than to the greatest of the miz
you can't be comparing Tom Brady to The Miz right?

I was speaking to the fact that the WWE puts no emphasis on the belt, are The New Day to be taken seriously as the greatest tag team champs when the division is basically non existent.
 
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you can't be comparing Tom Brady to The Miz right?

I was speaking to the fact that the WWE puts no emphasis on the belt, are The New Day to be taken seriously as the greatest tag team champs when the division is basically non existent.
I am because I've long believed he's Troy Aikman 2K...really good player, but an ideal situation made him into an "all time great."

That's a whole 'nother thread tho.

I feel what you're saying, but I think in 5 or 10 years when the IC Championship is fully restored to its rightful glory, we will look back at this time as a turning point for the title and there's no way you can discredit The Miz' role in that development.
 
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I wanna see everyone's Top 5 mid carders of the last 20 years.

Jericho
Rey
Eddie
Benoit
Edge


Good list here, especially since mid carder in this case means guys who started from the ground up and spent lengthy years in the IC/US/Euro/TV range before ascended to the World title ranks. If we're talking about guys that were only in the midcard ranks and never sniffed the World title picture, I can't think of anyone other than X-Pac and D'Lo Brown
 
Top 5 guys who excelled in the mid card. Doesn't matter if they went on to main event years later.
 
Good list here, especially since mid carder in this case means guys who started from the ground up and spent lengthy years in the IC/US/Euro/TV range before ascended to the World title ranks. If we're talking about guys that were only in the midcard ranks and never sniffed the World title picture, I can't think of anyone other than X-Pac and D'Lo Brown

Billy Gunn
 
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$25+ dollars.. :rollin
 
 
 
you can't be comparing Tom Brady to The Miz right?

I was speaking to the fact that the WWE puts no emphasis on the belt, are The New Day to be taken seriously as the greatest tag team champs when the division is basically non existent.
I am because I've long believed he's Troy Aikman 2K...really good player, but an ideal situation made him into an "all time great."

That's a whole 'nother thread tho.

I feel what you're saying, but I think in 5 or 10 years when the IC Championship is fully restored to its rightful glory, we will look back at this time as a turning point for the title and there's no way you can discredit The Miz' role in that development.
word, I see where you coming from
 
When I think of all time great IC champs I think of people who not only elevated the belt, but of people who elevated themselves after carrying it..Miz isn't nowhere near that discussion..Cause after he loses the belt he goes down instead of up..

All time IC greats:
Bret
Shawn
Razor
Savage
Jericho

Those are guys who used the belt to vault themselves to another level..Miz doesn't do that at all..He just stays stagnant..
 
 
word, I see where you coming from
'Preciate the debate bruddah...it's all about our love for the sport.

btw, shoutout to the tech guy who made sure The King of the Cruiserweights' name is now centered on his TitanTron so as to read "EVILL" in the center portion. I see you.
 
i want you all to watch the masterpiece that is royal rumble 2005 commercial you're welcome https://t.co/nDv5y2CaQw

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When I think of all time great IC champs I think of people who not only elevated the belt, but of people who elevated themselves after carrying it..Miz isn't nowhere near that discussion..Cause after he loses the belt he goes down instead of up..

All time IC greats:
Bret
Shawn
Razor
Savage
Jericho

Those are guys who used the belt to vault themselves to another level..Miz doesn't do that at all..He just stays stagnant..
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I'm about an hour north of NYC and we are expected to get 12 inches. I'm still gonna have to drive 30 minutes to work at 730am in a blizzard. :{
 
Gonna take me about 2 hours to drive to work tomorrow the way they plow the roads around here.
 
Again, Bret, Shawn, Savage, these are true all time greats and accomplished world champions. SCSA, The Rock, Warrior, HHH all held the IC Title back in the day, but they're never really known as "IC Champions."

Specifically as an INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION, you just can't take away from what Miz has contributed, especially compared to title holders of the past decade.

Do you realize we are discussing the IC title at all primarily because of him? Wasn't nobody checking for Ryback's reign.
 
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