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Originally Posted by jefffort5

Originally Posted by Barack 0drama

Jay be acting like a girl sometimes.
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yea he does....i believe everything they saying....especially that part where he didnt wanna get in the "oh boy" video..acting like a little diva

and cam went plat because of cam and the dips..jay didnt have much to do with it..
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I believe them also and lord knows how much I dislike dipset. Jay definately got some b!tch in him .
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But how many videos have you seen Jay in?

How many Kanye videos have you seen Jay in and thts his boy?

There have been so many tracks Jay has been on but they either cut off Jays verse in the video or dont make a video because Jay isnt in it.

Its not like Jay chose the Oh Boy video to not appear in. If it aint Beyonce you dont really see Jay appearing in videos like "Wassup this track is hothuh" He's not diddy.
 
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Kanye is Jay's boy? Word?

OK.

And there were 3 partners in RocaFella. So if Dame and Biggs agree on something, they might not really need to check with Jay. But they definitely should have.

Jay fans are hard to reason with. Like many in here said, they see him doing no wrong. They fail to see his faults in much of this. Sure he went on to besuccessful when Dame did not.

That doesn't mean he's not equally responsible for RocaFella falling apart. But that's not something I expect a FAN to understand.
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

^^^

Kanye is Jay's boy? Word?

OK.

And there were 3 partners in RocaFella. So if Dame and Biggs agree on something, they might not really need to check with Jay. But they definitely should have.

Jay fans are hard to reason with. Like many in here said, they see him doing no wrong. They fail to see his faults in much of this. Sure he went on to be successful when Dame did not.

That doesn't mean he's not equally responsible for RocaFella falling apart. But that's not something I expect a FAN to understand.
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I mean they re pretty close nowadays
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"Thats BabyBro"

And I've said that all three partners are responsible Jay should have set down and talk to Dame instead of ignoring dude like a chick but the point i wasmaking is Jay dont do videos Kanye is his only major priority on the Roc in the only video I can remember dude in is.............stock footage in through thewire.
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Jay fans are hard to reason with. Like many in here said, they see him doing no wrong. They fail to see his faults in much of this. Sure he went on to be successful when Dame did not.

That doesn't mean he's not equally responsible for RocaFella falling apart. But that's not something I expect a FAN to understand.
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Basically... Sometimes the %$+$ is like some kind of mind control
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Originally Posted by illphillip

^^^

Kanye is Jay's boy? Word?

OK.

And there were 3 partners in RocaFella. So if Dame and Biggs agree on something, they might not really need to check with Jay. But they definitely should have.

Jay fans are hard to reason with. Like many in here said, they see him doing no wrong. They fail to see his faults in much of this. Sure he went on to be successful when Dame did not.

That doesn't mean he's not equally responsible for RocaFella falling apart. But that's not something I expect a FAN to understand.
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Word

Jay is my favorite rapper of all time but Jay is a shiesty dude, you hear what people like Calvin Klein, Dehaven, Dame and Jaz speak about dude. Sure jealousyplays a major part in that but they all know Jay better than any of us ever will.

I don't know everything that happened at Rocafella but let's not kid ourselves, Jay, Dame and Biggs all contributed to they're break up.
 
Kanye is already more famous musically than Jay yet Jay calls Ye "baby bro"

Hell, Ye was more musically famous than Jay off College Dropout alone

Ye, Jay's label mate made a song confirming questionable acts Jay did

Everybody in close business parameters of Jay are all coming forth with the same stories, it's not an accident people
 
Originally Posted by All Ready

Hell, Ye was more musically famous than Jay off College Dropout alone

Ye, Jay's label mate made a song confirming questionable acts Jay did

Everybody in close business parameters of Jay are all coming forth with the same stories, it's not an accident people
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How?
 
Originally Posted by bgetsbusy

Originally Posted by illphillip

^^^

Kanye is Jay's boy? Word?

OK.

And there were 3 partners in RocaFella. So if Dame and Biggs agree on something, they might not really need to check with Jay. But they definitely should have.

Jay fans are hard to reason with. Like many in here said, they see him doing no wrong. They fail to see his faults in much of this. Sure he went on to be successful when Dame did not.

That doesn't mean he's not equally responsible for RocaFella falling apart. But that's not something I expect a FAN to understand.
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Word

Jay is my favorite rapper of all time but Jay is a shiesty dude, you hear what people like Calvin Klein, Dehaven, Dame and Jaz speak about dude. Sure jealousy plays a major part in that but they all know Jay better than any of us ever will.

I don't know everything that happened at Rocafella but let's not kid ourselves, Jay, Dame and Biggs all contributed to they're break up.
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Word? What he say?
 
Kanye came out with critical acclaim right out the gate, winning awards and having crazy shows off CD alone

Went multiplat and produced alot of songs on Jay's best album, Blueprint, that's how

He also produced quality music for other people without fear of it being better than his own projects (Common, Jon Legend, Twista...)

As much as I appreciate Jay's music, Kanye has been the bigger draw ever sense he first came out, it's actually easy to see

There hasn't been a Jay remix that produced more buzz for an artist, pretty much every remix Jay hopped on in the last 2 years, the original got more burnaside for the Rick Ross Hustling remix
 
Originally Posted by All Ready

Kanye came out with critical acclaim right out the gate, winning awards and having crazy shows off CD alone

Went multiplat and produced alot of songs on Jay's best album, Blueprint, that's how

He also produced quality music for other people without fear of it being better than his own projects (Common, Jon Legend, Twista...)

As much as I appreciate Jay's music, Kanye has been the bigger draw ever sense he first came out, it's actually easy to see

There hasn't been a Jay remix that produced more buzz for an artist, pretty much every remix Jay hopped on in the last 2 years, the original got more burn aside for the Rick Ross Hustling remix
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Kanye always brags he keeps his best beats for himself

Yea Kanye is a bigger artist than Jay right now Jay is past his prime thats why Jay and Def Jam made sure Ye aint go nowhere.

Can you imagine if Dame would have kept Kanye?
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Jay is a shiesty dude, you hear what people like Calvin Klein, Dehaven, Dame and Jaz speak about dude.
Two of those individuals probably still live at home with their mom. At some point in time we have to look closely at the individuals you dudesare co-signing.

Kanye is already more famous musically than Jay

LOL.
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He has used beats that people passed on for his own album

Kanye is self reliant. he didn't need Jay, it was just the obvious decision, ROC was already established and Jay was known

And Kanye isn't just a bigger artist now, he's a bigger artist than Jay ever was/is/will be

Jay is a top 3 lyracist but Ye is a top 3 artist/entertainer
 
LOL @ Just Blaze saying this on Twitter

Shut the f--- up we're taking that beat?! I wish they had a #$!/lol/omg/huh all in one smiley on here. This is.. I'm.. Speechless

Just spoke to guru. Dint know anything about this video. WOW. Revisionist history in FULL EFFECT. This is amazing. Delete that verse?

Lmao
 
Originally Posted by All Ready

He has used beats that people passed on for his own album

Kanye is self reliant. he didn't need Jay, it was just the obvious decision, ROC was already established and Jay was known

And Kanye isn't just a bigger artist now, he's a bigger artist than Jay ever was/is/will be

Jay is a top 3 lyracist but Ye is a top 3 artist/entertainer
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Top 3 entertainer? In the world? Oh word?
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I hope you are just talking about hip hop in context to that last statement.
 
Originally Posted by All Ready

He has used beats that people passed on for his own album

Kanye is self reliant. he didn't need Jay, it was just the obvious decision, ROC was already established and Jay was known

And Kanye isn't just a bigger artist now, he's a bigger artist than Jay ever was/is/will be

Jay is a top 3 lyracist but Ye is a top 3 artist/entertainer
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Originally Posted by All Ready

He has used beats that people passed on for his own album

Kanye is self reliant. he didn't need Jay, it was just the obvious decision, ROC was already established and Jay was known

And Kanye isn't just a bigger artist now, he's a bigger artist than Jay ever was/is/will be

Jay is a top 3 lyracist but Ye is a top 3 artist/entertainer
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Amber Rose, log your bald-headed *** off NT!
 
I agree with a bigger artist than Jay is come on now if you disagree with that your living in a box. Ye is a household name Jay never appealed to anyone otherthan black males. Ye is reaching the masses. Come on now
 
Yes, top 3 in rap

I don't care how yall feel, continue to flood this thread with meaningless pics/gifs/smilies/LOLS or whatever else yall need to feel important

Provide a sound reply or find your way to another thread

And yes, Kanye is already more famous than Jay, embrace it

Hell, yall prolly typing from the iphone in line for the yeezy's right now
 
Originally Posted by cartune

I agree with a bigger artist than Jay is come on now if you disagree with that your living in a box. Ye is a household name Jay never appealed to anyone other than black males. Ye is reaching the masses. Come on now
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when were you born 2005?
 
Jay do be acting like that _ in HS that think he too cool to chill with everyone else....but the breakup is on Dame shoulders.

You can't make them type of moves, without Jay's consent...that's wild disrespectful. Y'all had a family and that man was the cash cow.

Roc-a-Fella was family....then Dame brought in his own outside family with their own culture and way of doing things...he let them _s run wild, outside of theRoc umbrella and he suffered for it. They got hot...he got, got.

Everyone on State Prop repped the Roc religiously, they added to the brand and had good personal realtionships.
Kanye repped repped the Roc hardbody eventhough he had his own Good Music label...he added to the brand and played his position.
The Dips was out for te Dips...Roc-a-Fella was just a platform for them to get that next leverl of exposure. They came in there and did what they wanted to do.Dame being their dude since the sandbox, let certain s_ slide that just wasn't right on a business level. Thats why hes broke now and none of the Old Rocheads messed with him after the breakup. He started acting like the CEO of The Diplomats instead of Roc-a-Fella
 
Originally Posted by inspektahdeck

Originally Posted by cartune

I agree with a bigger artist than Jay is come on now if you disagree with that your living in a box. Ye is a household name Jay never appealed to anyone other than black males. Ye is reaching the masses. Come on now
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when were you born 2005?
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Originally Posted by inspektahdeck

Originally Posted by cartune

I agree with a bigger artist than Jay is come on now if you disagree with that your living in a box. Ye is a household name Jay never appealed to anyone other than black males. Ye is reaching the masses. Come on now
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when were you born 2005?
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Yeah Jay just headlined the Gladsburry festival, had one of the most talked about remix mix tapes to ever come out in the Grey Album which was hisbars mixed with the beatles, this argument is flawed. It just seems like Jay did his thing musically and tried to put dudes on with the business side but dudeswere being girls about it and couldn't hold up. I.e The dips got signed while Jay was on vacation, Jaz had huge features on Jay's first three albumsbut Jaz couldn't do it, not like those two dudes grew up together so there wasn't anything needing to be done. Jay put everyone on, Jay chose'Ye's beats but Dame signed him very true, but Dame co-signing your album don't mean a dang thing post blueprint. The only time anyone on the dipswent plat was when they were under ROC point blank. Come on Jay did alot for dudes, he's not guilt free, but man everyone is going at dude like he spit inthey soup or something, he made business moves and only like what he percieved as talented dudes(Bleek withstanding).
 
Originally Posted by cartune

I agree with a bigger artist than Jay is come on now if you disagree with that your living in a box. Ye is a household name Jay never appealed to anyone other than black males. Ye is reaching the masses. Come on now
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OMG! How slow are you? Jay-Z headlined Glatsonbury Festival in the UK. 150,000 Brits!
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And GITD was a successful tour but Jay-Z's mini tour sold out a million timesquicker than Kanye's for more expensive prices. I'm not even a Jay-Z stan but you just sound silly. 26 million records sold. Kanye may, may, MAY getbigger than Jay but to say he's bigger now than Jay ever was its a damn shame.
 
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