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Is Steve Kerr a HOFer?
Is Robert Horry a Hall of Famer?
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Nope. Not even close.
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Nope. Not even close.
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When he first retired, I said yes. Since then, I've changed to know. He hit key, big shots but that's about it.
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When he first retired, I said yes. Since then, I've changed to know. He hit key, big shots but that's about it.
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Walton has 2 rings, 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP, 1 6th Man of the Year Award, was selected to 2 All-NBA Teams (1st & 2nd), and was selected to 2 All-Defensive First Teams. Not to mention being a 3-time College Player of the Year, being one of the greatest college players of ALL-TIME, back-to-back national titles, a 88-game win streak, two consecutive 30-0 seasons. But you probably have no idea about that, from the sounds of it.
Know about something before you speak... comparing Grant Hill to Bill Walton... give me a break.
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Walton has 2 rings, 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP, 1 6th Man of the Year Award, was selected to 2 All-NBA Teams (1st & 2nd), and was selected to 2 All-Defensive First Teams. Not to mention being a 3-time College Player of the Year, being one of the greatest college players of ALL-TIME, back-to-back national titles, a 88-game win streak, two consecutive 30-0 seasons. But you probably have no idea about that, from the sounds of it.
Know about something before you speak... comparing Grant Hill to Bill Walton... give me a break.
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While critical in some of the wins, leading to some of the championships, he's simply an extreme case of right place right time.
He doesn't deserve it, he's just lucky to be on all those championship teams.
He doesn't deserve it, he's just lucky to be on all those championship teams.
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While critical in some of the wins, leading to some of the championships, he's simply an extreme case of right place right time.
He doesn't deserve it, he's just lucky to be on all those championship teams.
He doesn't deserve it, he's just lucky to be on all those championship teams.
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If he's a Hall of Famer then Nick Van Exel is too..
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If he's a Hall of Famer then Nick Van Exel is too..
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Reggie Miller isn't even in the hall of fame yet
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Reggie Miller isn't even in the hall of fame yet
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Tough to get in when you're not eligible.
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Tough to get in when you're not eligible.
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Isn't Reggie Miller being inducted in this years class though?
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Isn't Reggie Miller being inducted in this years class though?
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My only argument is, will the committee look at his shots in the playoffs and finals and see how he basically won 2-3 NBA finals with shots at the Buzzer?
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My only argument is, will the committee look at his shots in the playoffs and finals and see how he basically won 2-3 NBA finals with shots at the Buzzer?
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Ok. I'll admit I stepped out of bounds slightly (with the "one ring" comment). But my reply was in response to "stats" being brought up. And really, Finals Awards aside (which I'll admit are significant), Grant Hill's stats and awards are comparable to Walton's.
Hill is a co-ROY, 7-time NBA All-Star, was selected to 5 All-NBA teams (1 first, 4 second), and won an Olympic Gold Medal in 1996. The quickest way to sum up Hill's statistics in his first 6 NBA seasons: LeBron-like (21.6 ppg, 7.8 reb, 6.2 ast, 1.6 stl, 0.7 blk).
Hill was also one of the greatest college players of ALL-TIME. He went to 3 consecutive national title games, winning the first 2 back-to-back (first time back-to-back-titles were won since Walton's UCLA team). The third time he made it back after 2 teammates left the previous season to join the NBA. Named the best defensive player in the nation in 94. 8th player in Duke history to have his jersey number retired. He has multiple ACC awards as well. Know about something, indeed...
So maybe I should have said TWO rings aside. But that whole "give me a break" response really needs to be toned down, as they are A LOT closer than you thought (from the "sounds" of it). Sure, Hill doesn't have a regular season MVP, but you have to look at the players who won during Hill's prime, and then compare those individuals to Walton.
And neither of these guys made key contributions towards 7 rings on 3 different teams.
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Ok. I'll admit I stepped out of bounds slightly (with the "one ring" comment). But my reply was in response to "stats" being brought up. And really, Finals Awards aside (which I'll admit are significant), Grant Hill's stats and awards are comparable to Walton's.
Hill is a co-ROY, 7-time NBA All-Star, was selected to 5 All-NBA teams (1 first, 4 second), and won an Olympic Gold Medal in 1996. The quickest way to sum up Hill's statistics in his first 6 NBA seasons: LeBron-like (21.6 ppg, 7.8 reb, 6.2 ast, 1.6 stl, 0.7 blk).
Hill was also one of the greatest college players of ALL-TIME. He went to 3 consecutive national title games, winning the first 2 back-to-back (first time back-to-back-titles were won since Walton's UCLA team). The third time he made it back after 2 teammates left the previous season to join the NBA. Named the best defensive player in the nation in 94. 8th player in Duke history to have his jersey number retired. He has multiple ACC awards as well. Know about something, indeed...
So maybe I should have said TWO rings aside. But that whole "give me a break" response really needs to be toned down, as they are A LOT closer than you thought (from the "sounds" of it). Sure, Hill doesn't have a regular season MVP, but you have to look at the players who won during Hill's prime, and then compare those individuals to Walton.
And neither of these guys made key contributions towards 7 rings on 3 different teams.
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