NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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Kubiak huh? Not bad.

He is mediocre at best as a head coach, but I think he will be good as an OC with a running game to work with. After 15+ seasons, it's finally time to inject an offensive identity in this team. Flacco is gonna eat good in the playaction
 
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You're taking a Jets fans opinion on Giants fans and adding it to your opinion as a NJ resident. LOL.

Just one question, why would any REAL Giant fan switch and become a Jets fan? Like, for what reason? Because the Jets were "winning"? You and I must have a very different definition of winning.

There are always going to be fairweather fans in a city like NYC. We have implants from all over the country looking to start anew, including with their sports teams. But as far as true blue Giants fans? You'd be hard pressed to convince me of that. Most Giants fans don't know Jets fans are alive, like beh235 said. That is, until they start running their mouths about AFC Championships and Mark Sanchize being better than Eli, etc etc etc. It didn't even take 6 games to go by this season before the Jets crowned themselves kings of New York. As if having a better record matters. For the most part, from what I've seen, Giants fans don't really care about the Jets. The only reason we ever root for them is b/c we have a mutual enemy, being the Patriots. Moreso, Boston sports in general. And since the Giants aren't in the same conference or division on occasion we find ourselves having to cheer for the Jets, b/c the hate is that deep. I've been a Giants fan 3+ decades and the thought of jumping ship as an option has never even crossed my mind, nor have I ever seen it from anyone whose fanhood seemed legitimate.

So perhaps they do things different on the other side of the Hudson. But over here, it's oil and vinegar.
 
Personal opinions can change and should be fluid. Life experiences cannot be

As far as this discussion..don't know nor care how 'good' of fans people are of a certain team. Just be cool out there and don't give me a hard time if I'm cheering for someone else
 
Peyton said on ESPN earlier that he doesn't think he's reached his full potential and is still learning things. Said as long as his body holds up, he'll contiunue to play. That's crazy...
 
KOD843 said:
Peyton said on ESPN earlier that he doesn't think he's reached his full potential and is still learning things.
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If that were all you said I wouldn't have disagreed with you JJ. You said quite a bit more than that. And I don't think it makes sense to use your dealings from Jersey to paint a picture of the New York Giants, regardless of how many fans we have in Jersey.
 
As for Peyton, I didn't even think that retirement would be up for discussion. He's not the kind of guy who wants to go out on top. He's the kind that will stop when he falls below his expectations. After a career year, playing next year was a given to me.

And I don't know about that learning more part lol. That might be a small humblebrag. He can't possibly get better.
 
I go back and forth on if I'd want to see Peyton keep playing and perhaps see a real decline or just retire now. Pleasure to watch either way it ends
 
dmxfury said:
I go back and forth on if I'd want to see Peyton keep playing and perhaps see a real decline or just retire now. Pleasure to watch either way it ends
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Next year was a virtual lock because of how good Denver was this year. If they lose the Super Bowl he'd want to give it another go. If the win, he'd want icing for his cake. Team is just too good to leave and I think he owes it to himself and the franchise to go at least next year. Now if it doesn't work out this or next year I could see him hanging it up for sure with 40 coming up over the horizon. I don't want to see him play till a decline comes but you gotta realize that a decline for him from this year is Peyton in Indianapolis lol. It wouldn't be so bad to endure.
 
Broncos are going to be nasty as well next year with all those people who are coming back from injuries. Also, if Elway finds a way to work those contracts (Decker, Champ *if he doesnt retire*, DRC *another 1 yr contract*).
 
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Kubiak huh? Not bad.

He is mediocre at best as a head coach, but I think he will be good as an OC with a running game to work with. After 15+ seasons, it's finally time to inject an offensive identity in this team. Flacco is gonna eat good in the playaction
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Repped sir
 
JJ Watt said:
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I respect dude tho. He was literally a nobody and worked to become a good WR. I know Eli is happy how he developed. That's a case of pulling a WR out of your ***. Nobody saw that coming. 
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I respect it was well.

Didn't the jets cut him :nerd:

I don't like the whole "salsa" and the whole hispanic's on parade feeling I get with him :rolleyes
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Cruz's celebration is organic and funny to me... now that Shady McCoy "crowd control" TD dance he does is lame as hell, something I could easily see Eagles fans replicating in their living room thinkin' they're doing it.
 
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i too always noticed how a lot of giants fans don't come out until they start winning.  meanwhile jets fans never shut up even when they suck
 
But it is a world apart though. As is Upstate from Downstate, Uptown from Downtown, Queens from Brooklyn, and Bronx from Staten. New York is very different from one area to the next. So it's not a stretch to say that Jersey is nothing like NYC, nor are the fans out there much like fans who live in state. Heck a lot of fans from Jersey are Eagles fans.
 
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But it is a world apart though. As is Upstate from Downstate, Uptown from Downtown, Queens from Brooklyn, and Bronx from Staten. New York is very different from one area to the next. So it's not a stretch to say that Jersey is nothing like NYC, nor are the fans out there much like fans who live in state. Heck a lot of fans from Jersey are Eagles fans.
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This is true.
 
JumpmanFromDaBay said:
the Bay Area is the King of Fair Weather Fans



I hate to say it but its true
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As someone who lives in the Bay Area and witnesses this first hand, I really dont understand how you can say this.  At all. 

When the Giants were horrible (mid 2000s), they were still in the top 10 and even top 5 in attendance every year.  When the 49ers were horrible (coincidentally around the same time as the Giants), the stadium sold out every single game.  The Warriors, who lets be honest, have been a league doormat for the better part of the last 2 decades, always packed the house and had one of the biggest followings in the NBA.  The Sharks have always had a huge following, good years or bad.

Just because the Oakland A's and Oakland Raider's attendance figures always fluctuate based on how good the team itself is doing, does NOT reflect "all bay area fans."  The fact that you, a Giants and Warriors fan, lump all Bay Area teams together is ridiculous. 
 
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RavageBX said:
But it is a world apart though. As is Upstate from Downstate, Uptown from Downtown, Queens from Brooklyn, and Bronx from Staten. New York is very different from one area to the next. So it's not a stretch to say that Jersey is nothing like NYC, nor are the fans out there much like fans who live in state. Heck a lot of fans from Jersey are Eagles fans.
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Fair enough, and south jersey fans are eagles fans.... The ones right next to Philly.


Doesn't change the fact that Giants fans are fair weather fans
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you're pretty much a troll huh
 
Owners can buy back tickets to make it a sellout in the NFL! Can't really use that as a measuring stick of how loyal the fan base!
 
I just hope to see the Raven's run some screens and crossing patterns now that Kubiak is in, offense has been so vanilla for years. I think we still need another reciever in Mike Evans and revamp the O-Line
 
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You're taking a Jets fans opinion on Giants fans and adding it to your opinion as a NJ resident. LOL.

Just one question, why would any REAL Giant fan switch and become a Jets fan? Like, for what reason? Because the Jets were "winning"? You and I must have a very different definition of winning.

There are always going to be fairweather fans in a city like NYC. We have implants from all over the country looking to start anew, including with their sports teams. But as far as true blue Giants fans? You'd be hard pressed to convince me of that. Most Giants fans don't know Jets fans are alive, like beh235 said. That is, until they start running their mouths about AFC Championships and Mark Sanchize being better than Eli, etc etc etc. It didn't even take 6 games to go by this season before the Jets crowned themselves kings of New York. As if having a better record matters. For the most part, from what I've seen, Giants fans don't really care about the Jets. The only reason we ever root for them is b/c we have a mutual enemy, being the Patriots. Moreso, Boston sports in general. And since the Giants aren't in the same conference or division on occasion we find ourselves having to cheer for the Jets, b/c the hate is that deep. I've been a Giants fan 3+ decades and the thought of jumping ship as an option has never even crossed my mind, nor have I ever seen it from anyone whose fanhood seemed legitimate.

So perhaps they do things different on the other side of the Hudson. But over here, it's oil and vinegar.
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