How do you think Whites/Blacks view Tiger Woods after the whole "lynching" debacle?

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Tiger Woods clearly defused the situation (in his eyes) by taking the side of his friend (Kelly Tilghman) after the whole incident where she mentioned that heshould be "lynched" in a back alley. This isn't about Tilghman, but rather Woods' and his handling of what was said. According to Woods:

"It was unfortunate," Woods said Monday in his first public comments since Tilghman was suspended for two weeks. "Kelly and I did speak. There was no ill intent. She regrets saying it. In my eyes, it's all said and done."


"It was more media-driven than anything else," Woods said.
He said he several people contacted him because they were curious what he thought.

"I tell them she's a friend of mine, which she is," Woods said. "I've known her for 10 or 11 years now. We all say things we do regret, and that's certainly a moment she does regret."


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I was reading a blog, and this was mentioned (hence the thread title):

By not speaking up on this issue when it smacked him in the face, Tiger neglected every Black child who looks up to him with diamond eyes and impressionable minds just to make White kids comfortable. Let's call a spade a spade. What else could it be? How is Tiger defusing anything by not speaking out? He's also doing a disservice to White kids by not speaking up and fully expressing himself


His friendship with Kelly Tilghman gave Tiger another excuse to remain clandestine on divisive racial issues. Some Whites say Tiger is a classy guy who is above feeding a racial firestorm like they themselves are the definition of high morality. "Kelly just slipped and made a mistake. She apologized to Tiger so let's all move on," some say. Some Blacks say he's a sellout only interested in making more money (doesn't he have enough?) and lost a chance to speak to the kid in the hood talented, but alone.
Who is right? Who is wrong?

Some ask why is it Tiger's responsibility? He spends time with charities and gives of himself. Isn't that enough? This may be true, but when is the last time Tiger came to the hood and embraced children who need his confidence and assurance the most?
Kelly Tilghman knows damn well she wouldn't have used anything perceived offensive to Jewish folk as easily as the word lynch rolled off her lips live on air-with laughter. You would have seen the cane yank her butt off stage on Youtube a minute thereafter. It's the comfort that makes Blacks hot. Why are we once again forced to take a back seat on the proverbial bus just so this can become a non issue for Whites who care not? What happens the next time something similar happens? If Blacks speak out on issues that burn the soul primitive, we are pulling the race card?
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What part of Tiger Woods represent the hood? Dude doesn't owe anybody anything. Does he owe the hood because he is black? Tiger Woods is straight from thesuburbs and just because he is black he owes the hood something?

I think he handled the situaion with alot of class and let the fire go out. He has known that woman for 10-11 years so why should he overreact.

And I'm mixed if that matters...
 
I don't think a great deal of people on either side care. I'm tired of this assumption, from black and white people alike, that all black people comefrom the hood too. If Tiger, like Jordan before him, wants to stay neutral on social issues for the sake of not potentially alienating any of his possibleconsumer audience and thus ability to make money, that's his perogative. I don't even get that whole what about the kid in the hood hypothetical, whatthe !%*% does that even mean? I never cared for the phrase playing the race card either and the dismissiveness with which it's always used, especially inthis case when the word "lynch" was used. Look up the definition of lynch and especially it's connotation and practice over the yrs and tell mewho played the race card first. You have some people who don't think anything is ever racist or racially inappropriate, some who think everything is, andthen the normal people in the middle who don't care and are tired of hearing from both sides.
 
Hes not black.....

Hes not white......

Heeees Koblanasian man.
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Tiger Woods is not worth commenting on or analyzing in any form outside of the golf course. He has no stance on anything either way. He learned well from MJ.Just shut up and pitch your product...
 
Tiger is always going to take the highroad, regardless of the situation. I thought he handled this well. It was a personal friend of his, he knew she meant noharm... It was a poor choice of words and seemed like a genuine mistake on her part. Will this country ever reach a point where stuff like this isn't anissue?
 
No matter who you are you should still view him as a good person. He handled the situation as a good person and that's what he should be known as, andTiger knows this...

This was blown out of proportion to try and make something out of nothing. Why can't people accept it just as Tiger has: "All said and done" ???
 
a genuine mistake? thats just not something I would be too comfortable with.
hey but Im not tiger nor do I share his ethnic background.

but to me, that be like me playing basketball with a jewish friend, and im beatin him pretty bad, the 1st thing I yell out of my mouth is "its a holocaustout here"
like why would saying something like that even be anywhere in my thought process,
If a friend of mine said something like that to me, Id have to reconsider who my friends were.

but me and tiger arent cut from the same cloth
 
he's weak cause if any "friend" said that about me then ima have a problem with it.....but he's in such a high position so i understand whyhe said what he said....behind closed doors he prob was/is pissed
 
the point of her comment, if i remember the context correctly, was that the only way to beat (by "beat" i mean win) Tiger Woods is for him to noteven be there. sorta the same idea behind Donte Stallworth's comments about kidnapping LT. she used a bad choice of words. i don't think she's aracist of whatever, she just used a bad choice of words.

should anyone be mad about Tiger's handling of the situation? i would like to think no. but that's me.



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It's amazing how everyone involved in a particular incident can move on so easily, yet so many people not involved can keep making a big deal out of it.Tiger said it wasn't a big deal and he's past it. Why can't everyone else just do the same?

However, that being said, there is a serious problem with black society (in general) if they can't move past this incident without declaring Tiger somesort of sellout because he didn't get angry enough over the phrase. Tiger handled this the way I wish more people would handle non-issues like this.
 
Personally, I think it's ******ed how the media and some people want him to "represent," when he has been raised as a golfer, not a black man,not an asian man, he's a golfer, a man, who doesn't care about race. In the definitive way, he's living the dream of MLK, living his liferegardless of the color of his skin. If you want to consider Tiger anything, he's mixed. Whites and blacks should view him the same way, a great/greatestgolfer ever, nothing more, nothing less.
 
An absolutely poor choice of words by that lady, but I give major props to Tiger on this one for taking the MLK road and turning the other cheek. Instead ofletting this incident getting blown up any more than it already has Tiger took a step in the right direction towards putting a rest to racism. I applaud himfor saying a few words that basically told everyone to calm the $%$# down cuz it's not that serious. I realize that it makes him look like somewhat of a#$*$# to not retaliate, but really, what was he supposed to say? Anything negative would've caused bad PR and loss in revenue. Hell this whole incident andthe way he handled it might even gain him more fans.
 
Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion

An absolutely poor choice of words by that lady, but I give major props to Tiger on this one for taking the MLK road and turning the other cheek. Instead of letting this incident getting blown up any more than it already has Tiger took a step in the right direction towards putting a rest to racism. I applaud him for saying a few words that basically told everyone to calm the $%$# down cuz it's not that serious. I realize that it makes him look like somewhat of a #$*$# to not retaliate, but really, what was he supposed to say? Anything negative would've caused bad PR and loss in revenue. Hell this whole incident and the way he handled it might even gain him more fans.
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For the first bolded part, I ask in whose mind? If yours, then you just contradicted yourself in your own post.

For the second one, yes, I like him a little more now because I respect people who handle situations with cool heads. We don't need marches up and downcity streets whenever one person says a remotely offensive or inappropriate comment.
 
as a black male, i feel her choice of such a morbid word, during a sporting event, was very inappropriate for national television. and as far as mr. woodssaying it was no big deal to him, makes plenty of sense to me also. i mean didn't he turn the other cheek 11 or 12 years ago when a golfer made somecomment about having kool-aid and fried chicken at a tournament just for him. hell, i think he handled these situations like any non-black male would handleit...........................i shouldn't have said that, he does have a pinch of black blood in him. i just feel like he should have told his friend of 11or 12 years that the apology shouldn't go to him, but to the 12 to 13 golf fans watching that day that might have been affended by the comment.
 
Some Blacks say he's a sellout only interested in making more money (doesn't he have enough?) and lost a chance to speak to the kid in the hood talented, but alone.
anybody that sees it in this perspective needs to grow the $*@+ up.
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he's weak cause if any "friend" said that about me then ima have a problem with it.....but he's in such a high position so i understand why he said what he said....behind closed doors he prob was/is pissed
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The exact opposite pal. He's strong for doing this, a lot stronger than any of you saying he should have made something out of it. He realizes it was a mistake, so let's move on.

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at weak.
 
I don't necessarily like what he said about being socially-active because he has his own foundation. So what? When you net worth is like $300 million, Iwould certainly hope that you have some kind of foundation. If he spoke, people would listen; donating money isn't everything.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Hes not black.....

Hes not white......

Heeees Koblanasian man.
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Tiger Woods is not worth commenting on or analyzing in any form outside of the golf course. He has no stance on anything either way. He learned well from MJ. Just shut up and pitch your product...
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Co-sign I'd like to add, if Tiger isn't offended why should I be?
 
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I guess you guys didn't get the memo that Tiger Woods isn't even black, he's mixed. I don't know what's worse. The fact that people arestill stuck in the stone ages of seeing everything in black and white. Or the fact that people actually give a crap what Tiger Woods thinks about anythingother than golf. Tiger's wife isn't black, his mom isn't black, and he isn't even half black himself. His kids won't be black. Yet peopleexpect this guy to be on some African American activist stuff.
 
I feel Tiger is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. Plus - we/I don't know what he personally said to her that was not mentioned to the mediatoo.

Edit - and of course now you have Jim Brown speaking out on it.
 
I believe the media made a bigger deal out of this more than anyone else. The so-called "White" media no less. How ironic, right? Everyone from ESPN(as usual) to Golfweek (or whatever the publication name was that put up that scandalous cover just to sell copies). It goes to show once again that theseliberal-minded members of the media are some of the bigger purveyors of racism and racial divisiveness who push the boundaries for nothing but selfish reasons.Even after Tiger Woods himself attempted to quell the controversy that never was, they kept on pushing it in everyone's faces trying to make him look likelook like some "Uncle Tom" or something. The fact is. he is his own person and owes nothing to anyone.
 
Didn't MJ have these same questions? He would never speak on politics or race or anything sensitive to make sure he didn't offend anyone. Tiger andMJ are both the same way, they make their endorsement money from all sides, blacks, whites, hispanics, whatever. They can't risk saying something thatcould cost them some of their endorsements. So from the second this story happened, I knew Tiger wasn't saying nothing. He's a business man, he'sfree to do and say as he pleases. I hope someday people in the media can say whatever they want without one side or the other getting upset. Alas, it'llnever happen.
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^Exactly, and what it comes down to is that people are trying to tell him how to live his LIFE. Forget golf, it's his life. And, as we should know, youcan't and shouldn't tell someone how to live theirs...
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

but to me, that be like me playing basketball with a jewish friend, and im beatin him pretty bad, the 1st thing I yell out of my mouth is "its a holocaust out here"
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That's not quite the same, in my eyes.

In your example, your insensitive choice of words would be used in a manner that was meant to mock and demean your friend.

In Tilghman's case, she used an unfortunate choice of words in an attempt to praise Tiger by saying that the only way for young players to beat him wouldbe to "lynch him in a back alley".

To me, a closer parallel would be if your Jewish friend were beating you and you said "You're hittingeverything on me, it's like a holocaust out here", so as to praise his high level of play. Granted, both "lynch" and "Holocaust"are touchy subjects no matter when or where you say the words, but hopefully you can see where I'm coming from.

Anyway...

I find it laughable that people are trying to get their 15 minutes out of an issue that involves exactly two people: Tiger and Tilghman.

He handled it the way he wanted to handle it; that should be good enough for everyone else.
 
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