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Thanks for the info on Apoc. I have a feeling they will use Magneto to awaken Apoc in the film and I guess that is as close to the comics with what they have?

I am curious if Fox could use Kang as Rama-Tut though.



I just find it funny that Colossus baby has regular hair while adult Colossus doesn't when he transform. :lol:
 
RFX45 said:
Thanks for the info on Apoc. I have a feeling they will use Magneto to awaken Apoc in the film and I guess that is as close to the comics with what they have?

I am curious if Fox could use Kang as Rama-Tut though.



I just find it funny that Colossus baby has regular hair while adult Colossus doesn't when he transform. :lol:
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They can go two ways really. They can use Magneto's speech as the trigger that'll awake apocalypse and his followers, then have him show up in the 80s or they could go the ultimate universe route and have Apocalypse take over Magneto's body instead of Mr. Sinister. I'd just prefer the first version.

Instead of making Magneto the bad guy possessed by the evil guy show that they have clear differences. Apocalypse thinks mutants are superior but is also willing to torture, kill, and experiment on mutants so he can separate the weak from the strong. Magneto is just all a bout being superior and being better than the humans so he he wouldn't be down with any of that.
 
i think some of you guys need to read this breakdown of iceman's powers to get our grip with underpowering him:

Iceman is an Omega-level mutant.

Thermokinesis: Iceman is a mutant with the superhuman ability to lower his external and internal body temperature, projecting intense coldness from his body. Like any normal human being's, the nerve centers for regulating the Iceman's body temperature are found in the part of the brain called the hypothalamus. However, the Iceman can mentally override his hypothalamus to allow his body temperature to be lowered by an unknown internal mechanism. This ability converts the latent thermal energies in and around his body into an unknown form of energy that is efficiently dissipated. A related mutation has rendered his body tissues unaffected by sub-zero temperatures. The Iceman can consciously, immediately lower his body temperature from its normal 98.6 Fahrenheit to absolute zero (The point where all molecular motion stops.) and lower within the span of a few tenths of a second. Iceman has shown that his power to generate cold is so great, that he was able to stop a fusion core explosion (a massive nuclear explosion).

As his body temperature falls, the surrounding moisture in the air that is in contact with him is similarly lowered. Just as condensed moisture forms frost, this moisture forms an icy covering which encompasses his entire body. It also obscures his facial features. When the Iceman first began to completely lower his body temperature, this covering took on a more snow-like appearance. But as he learned to increase the severity of his coldness, the covering assumed the consistency of crystalline ice that it has today. This ice constantly cracks with any movement of his body, and immediately reforms. (Hence, there is a cracking sound when the Iceman, covered with ice, moves.) Through practice, Iceman has learned to control the intensity of his coldness, and he can selectively lower the temperature of isolated parts of his body.
  • Thermal Vision: Ability to see beings due to the heat signature that others give off, because of the absence of heat around him
Cryokinesis: The Iceman can use his mutant ability to control moisture such as to freeze any air moisture into super-hard ice. This ice can be formed into any object of his choosing: the only limitations are his own imagination, and the ambient air temperature which determines how long his ice sculpture will stay icy. He does not have to hold the ice physically with his hands in order to shape it. Apparently he can simply direct the waves of coldness he projects in certain ways so as to create ice in the shape he desires. In the past, the Iceman has formed ice-ladders, ice-slides, ice-shields, ice-bats and other constructs of ice. Iceman has created constructs of ice so powerful that he was able to easily encase and contain the likes of the Hulk with him being unable to break out of it. He can make the weather snow or blizzard.

The Iceman is able to form a rising column of ice beneath his feet, capable of lifting him off the ground. The tensile strength of the column is determined by its thickness, and its steadiness by how well it has been braced. A well-braced and regular column, 6 feet in diameter at its base, is able to support his weight without toppling for about 85 feet in a 40-mile per hour wind. By forming long ice-ramps connected either to his ice-column or to an existing structure like a building or a bridge, the Iceman is able to travel above the ground by sliding down the ramp he is creating. Unless he creates supports periodically, the ramp will crack beneath him, unable to support their combined weight. Iceman although has shown that he is not limited to creating constructs and can fly on his own with his control over moisture.

Iceman's powers are so vast that it extends down to the molecular level make, to the point he can freeze all of the molecules of an object/being with a thought, he can with a thought freeze the flow of blood to the brain and reverse the process with no side effects, and even evaporate someone into nothingness and reverse the process. He has even shown that his powers are so great over molecular make up, that he is able to control chemical reactions on the molecular level, to the point he can prevent superhumans such as Sunfire even accessing/using their powers with a thought.
  • Organic-Ice Form: Ability to not only cover his body with ice, but to actually become organic ice. Though the appearance is similar, Iceman is now actually translucent in his ice form. Iceman is virtually indestructible in this form: he can reform his shattered body, and even if the rest of his body is completely destroyed. Iceman has shown that his control over his powers are so great, that he simply cannot be killed. He has shown that even when he was incinerated completely in his human form, he was able to instantly remake himself and has even had his entire human body incinerated besides his head and simply remade it. In this form he will be able to use the moisture in the air to form spikes, shields and other extra appendages to his body. If this icy form is shattered, he can rebuild himself through the same process. It is currently unknown if Bobby would be considered immortal.
Iceman has a practically unlimited supply of moisture at all times since it is always present in the surrounding air or environment. Even desert air has sufficient moisture content for him to make practical use of. However, the mental effort needed to employ his mutant power could eventually fatigue him and render his freezing ability temporarily dysfunctional.

Hydrokinesis: Iceman can use surrounding moisture to augment himself, and to function as frozen water will allow him to travel within large bodies of the substance almost instantly. It is accomplished by breaking himself down to his most base levels and reforming at the destination. He will also be able to convert his body to gigantic proportions through absorption of a lake or pond or even a swimming pool. Wherever there is any moisture, Iceman is a threat. Iceman has the ability to transform himself into nothing more than water vapor, yet remain consciousness and retain the use of his powers. His conscious control over his power is so great, that he has been able to exist at two places at once, and has even exist everywhere at the same time without any physical body as he has transcended such physical limitations. Iceman also has the ability to freeze water vapor around him which allows him to grow to gigantic proportions, gaining superhuman strength that matches his superhuman size while in said state.
  • Molecular Moisture Inversion: Ability to freeze all of someone’s water molecules.
  • Molecular Moisture Conversion: Ability to transform people into moisture molecules and transport them over great distances, this is the equivalent of a form of teleportation. This can also be used as an attack to completely destroy an opponent at a molecular level
 
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i think some of you guys need to read this breakdown of iceman's powers to get our grip with underpowering him:



Iceman is an Omega-level mutant.



Thermokinesis
: Iceman is a mutant with the superhuman ability to lower his external and internal body temperature, projecting intense coldness from his body. Like any normal human being's, the nerve centers for regulating the Iceman's body temperature are found in the part of the brain called the hypothalamus. However, the Iceman can mentally override his hypothalamus to allow his body temperature to be lowered by an unknown internal mechanism. This ability converts the latent thermal energies in and around his body into an unknown form of energy that is efficiently dissipated. A related mutation has rendered his body tissues unaffected by sub-zero temperatures. The Iceman can consciously, immediately lower his body temperature from its normal 98.6 Fahrenheit to absolute zero (The point where all molecular motion stops.) and lower within the span of a few tenths of a second. Iceman has shown that his power to generate cold is so great, that he was able to stop a fusion core explosion (a massive nuclear explosion).



As his body temperature falls, the surrounding moisture in the air that is in contact with him is similarly lowered. Just as condensed moisture forms frost, this moisture forms an icy covering which encompasses his entire body. It also obscures his facial features. When the Iceman first began to completely lower his body temperature, this covering took on a more snow-like appearance. But as he learned to increase the severity of his coldness, the covering assumed the consistency of crystalline ice that it has today. This ice constantly cracks with any movement of his body, and immediately reforms. (Hence, there is a cracking sound when the Iceman, covered with ice, moves.) Through practice, Iceman has learned to control the intensity of his coldness, and he can selectively lower the temperature of isolated parts of his body.


  • Thermal Vision

    : Ability to see beings due to the heat signature that others give off, because of the absence of heat around him
Cryokinesis
: The Iceman can use his mutant ability to control moisture such as to freeze any air moisture into super-hard ice. This ice can be formed into any object of his choosing: the only limitations are his own imagination, and the ambient air temperature which determines how long his ice sculpture will stay icy. He does not have to hold the ice physically with his hands in order to shape it. Apparently he can simply direct the waves of coldness he projects in certain ways so as to create ice in the shape he desires. In the past, the Iceman has formed ice-ladders, ice-slides, ice-shields, ice-bats and other constructs of ice. Iceman has created constructs of ice so powerful that he was able to easily encase and contain the likes of the Hulk with him being unable to break out of it. He can make the weather snow or blizzard.



The Iceman is able to form a rising column of ice beneath his feet, capable of lifting him off the ground. The tensile strength of the column is determined by its thickness, and its steadiness by how well it has been braced. A well-braced and regular column, 6 feet in diameter at its base, is able to support his weight without toppling for about 85 feet in a 40-mile per hour wind. By forming long ice-ramps connected either to his ice-column or to an existing structure like a building or a bridge, the Iceman is able to travel above the ground by sliding down the ramp he is creating. Unless he creates supports periodically, the ramp will crack beneath him, unable to support their combined weight. Iceman although has shown that he is not limited to creating constructs and can fly on his own with his control over moisture.



Iceman's powers are so vast that it extends down to the molecular level make, to the point he can freeze all of the molecules of an object/being with a thought, he can with a thought freeze the flow of blood to the brain and reverse the process with no side effects, and even evaporate someone into nothingness and reverse the process. He has even shown that his powers are so great over molecular make up, that he is able to control chemical reactions on the molecular level, to the point he can prevent superhumans such as Sunfire even accessing/using their powers with a thought.


  • Organic-Ice Form

    : Ability to not only cover his body with ice, but to actually become organic ice. Though the appearance is similar, Iceman is now actually translucent in his ice form. Iceman is virtually indestructible in this form: he can reform his shattered body, and even if the rest of his body is completely destroyed. Iceman has shown that his control over his powers are so great, that he simply cannot be killed. He has shown that even when he was incinerated completely in his human form, he was able to instantly remake himself and has even had his entire human body incinerated besides his head and simply remade it. In this form he will be able to use the moisture in the air to form spikes, shields and other extra appendages to his body. If this icy form is shattered, he can rebuild himself through the same process. It is currently unknown if Bobby would be considered immortal.
Iceman has a practically unlimited supply of moisture at all times since it is always present in the surrounding air or environment. Even desert air has sufficient moisture content for him to make practical use of. However, the mental effort needed to employ his mutant power could eventually fatigue him and render his freezing ability temporarily dysfunctional.



Hydrokinesis
: Iceman can use surrounding moisture to augment himself, and to function as frozen water will allow him to travel within large bodies of the substance almost instantly. It is accomplished by breaking himself down to his most base levels and reforming at the destination. He will also be able to convert his body to gigantic proportions through absorption of a lake or pond or even a swimming pool. Wherever there is any moisture, Iceman is a threat. Iceman has the ability to transform himself into nothing more than water vapor, yet remain consciousness and retain the use of his powers. His conscious control over his power is so great, that he has been able to exist at two places at once, and has even exist everywhere at the same time without any physical body as he has transcended such physical limitations. Iceman also has the ability to freeze water vapor around him which allows him to grow to gigantic proportions, gaining superhuman strength that matches his superhuman size while in said state.


  • Molecular Moisture Inversion

    : Ability to freeze all of someone’s water molecules.
  • Molecular Moisture Conversion

    : Ability to transform people into moisture molecules and transport them over great distances, this is the equivalent of a form of teleportation. This can also be used as an attack to completely destroy an opponent at a molecular level
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bruh we already know
him
and storm are omega level mutants
i even remember hearing that gambit is/was potentially
 
Iceman has always been a joke in the comics. So he was never going to get a good/popular enough actor to portray him or great story to show off all his abilities.

Very rare he even makes use of all those powers since he's a slacker and goofball.
 
No one is denying dude is omega level, people just aren't nitpicking on what they choose for the film.

So you just want him to turn all Sentinels into ice and then break them to ice crystals and end the movie there?


I mean even in the comics he never really achieved that level because he isn't serious about it so why highlight feats that he barely uses in the comics to begin with?
 
my grip is how powerful magneto is in the films..

and iceman is fighting pyro
 
Master Zik said:
RFX45 said:
Thanks for the info on Apoc. I have a feeling they will use Magneto to awaken Apoc in the film and I guess that is as close to the comics with what they have?

I am curious if Fox could use Kang as Rama-Tut though.



I just find it funny that Colossus baby has regular hair while adult Colossus doesn't when he transform. :lol:
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They can go two ways really. They can use Magneto's speech as the trigger that'll awake apocalypse and his followers, then have him show up in the 80s or they could go the ultimate universe route and have Apocalypse take over Magneto's body instead of Mr. Sinister. I'd just prefer the first version.

Instead of making Magneto the bad guy possessed by the evil guy show that they have clear differences. Apocalypse thinks mutants are superior but is also willing to torture, kill, and experiment on mutants so he can separate the weak from the strong. Magneto is just all a bout being superior and being better than the humans so he he wouldn't be down with any of that.
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Yah I prefer Magneto to be just Magneto in the film, I want to see him just go all out on Apoc.
 
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im watching X3:Last Stand right now on DVD.

not Blu Ray. but DVD. didnt think it was ever worth gettting on BluRay

they bout to go into Jeans house and evaporate ProfX.

man this movie is colorful lol

and the effects are awesome. when i first seen this my main problem was that it was just too short and with all the mutants here i felt like.......i dont know, i was expecting something different

i hope they bring back Ben Foster to be Archangel, since he was Angel in X3. dude  is crazy/awesome in all his roles.
 
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