2013 College Football Thread (Realer than Real Deal Holyfield -->S/O Craftsy)

DAT has been acting like a real douche this season. Huff too. "We're gonna drop 40 on Stanford". fumbles in the red zone. we get shutout first half. Lose the game and score half of what predicted. "We don't care about the rose bowl at all, it's whatever". Immedietely get beat by Arizona. Who lost to Washington State the previous week. Worst loss in 5 years. Now would be extremely lucky to go to the Alamo bowl. And Huff talkin bout, "ugh NCAA is ******** I wanna be paid, we are slaves, I want I want, me me me me". Seriously these douches need to **** and win. It just sounds like they don't wanna be here and that's cancer to the team.

They don't understand how insignificant they are going to be in the L. Thinking they gonna be a force to reckin with or something. Remember when Darren Thomas decided he was good enough to go pro? Yeah that turned out great. Never stepped foot on an nfl field, now he's on his arena league grind.

Anyways, long rant. Point is, I don't think Chip would have allowed this kinda reckless talk to take place
 
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Florida will reportedly fire Brent Pease, OL coach after FSU game

By Pete Volk @Pete_Volk on Nov 25 2013, 5:33a 1 1
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Will Muschamp's job may be safe, but it looks like some of his assistants will be leaving town.

Florida will fire offensive coordinator Brent Pease and offensive line coach Tim Davis after the season is over, CBS's Bruce Feldman is reporting.

The Gators lost to Georgia Southern this past weekend, the school's first ever loss to an FCS program. The loss also clinched a losing record for the program -- their first since 1979. With a game against No. 2 Florida State coming up, Florida is looking at a likely 4-8 record to close out the season.

Pease, formerly the offensive coordinator at Boise State, has struggled to get that Gators' attack going in his two years with the program. Florida ranks dead last in the SEC in scoring offense, with 19.9 points per game, and total offense, with under 330 yards per contest. The Gators ranked 10th and 12th in the conference in those respective categories last season.

Davis's offensive line didn't have the best of times against Georgia Southern, at one point blocking each other on a run play.

Florida head coach Will Muschamp is not expected to be fired, and these moves could help relieve some of the pressure from the defensive-minded head coach.
 
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DAT has been acting like a real douche this season. Huff too. "We're gonna drop 40 on Stanford". fumbles in the red zone. we get shutout first half. Lose the game and score half of what predicted. "We don't care about the rose bowl at all, it's whatever". Immedietely get beat by Arizona. Who lost to Washington State the previous week. Worst loss in 5 years. Now would be extremely lucky to go to the Alamo bowl. And Huff talkin bout, "ugh NCAA is ******** I wanna be paid, we are slaves, I want I want, me me me me". Seriously these douches need to **** and win. It just sounds like they don't wanna be here and that's cancer to the team.

They don't understand how insignificant they are going to be in the L. Thinking they gonna be a force to reckin with or something. Remember when Darren Thomas decided he was good enough to go pro? Yeah that turned out great. Never stepped foot on an nfl field, now he's on his arena league grind.

Anyways, long rant. Point is, I don't think Chip would have allowed this kinda reckless talk to take place
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My thoughts too. Chip never let his players talk like that. Cliff Harris talked a bit but it was in good fun, not disrespectful trash talk.

Civil War looking pretty mediocre for first time in awhile. I'll still watch though. Haven't missed a Duck game in years :pimp:
 
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Cliff started to talk reckless and he got put in check. Chip wouldn't let him talk to the media for 2 months. They went to the natty that season......
 
Changes need to be made at the top.

I use to be a huge supporter of Muschamp, but those days are over.

I'm ok with legitimate losses, but this and the subsequent excuses are enough.
 
Ted Miller brings up a good point

Thought of the week: It's great that the Pac-12 is deep. It's great to have nine bowl-eligible teams. But the most important take-away from the conference's late-season swoon in the national picture is this: THE NINE-GAME CONFERENCE SCHEDULE. If the SEC and ACC refuse to play nine conference games, the Pac-12 must -- absolutely must -- revert to an eight-game schedule as we move forward with the four-team playoff. It's simply not fair that on a weekend of major Pac-12 match-ups, most SEC teams are giving themselves a week off with cupcake foes.
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SEC and ACC :smh:
 
BennyIce47 said:
Changes need to be made at the top.

I use to be a huge supporter of Muschamp, but those days are over.

I'm ok with legitimate losses, but this and the subsequent excuses are enough.
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Offense hasn't done anything in a while, any good hires out there?

Also, Damien Williams has been kicked off of OU. He was a senior.
 
:x story about HUFF & the ducks.

bunch of dumbasses. i was rooting for them too. :smh:
 
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Ted Miller brings up a good point

Thought of the week: It's great that the Pac-12 is deep. It's great to have nine bowl-eligible teams. But the most important take-away from the conference's late-season swoon in the national picture is this: THE NINE-GAME CONFERENCE SCHEDULE. If the SEC and ACC refuse to play nine conference games, the Pac-12 must -- absolutely must -- revert to an eight-game schedule as we move forward with the four-team playoff. It's simply not fair that on a weekend of major Pac-12 match-ups, most SEC teams are giving themselves a week off with cupcake foes.
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SEC and ACC :smh:
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I can only speak for Clemson but this is the 1st season we scheduled a cupcake for our 11th game. South Carolina had been doing it for a long time and even though they were just the better team the last few years and deserved to win, it's understandable to think they had extra time to rest & prepare while Clemson had been playing to be in the ACC Championship. Definitely an advantage so finally we joined in. I mean, like I said in my last post, I'm sure they're not 100% but they sat their two best players (Clowney & Davis) on Sat and still put up 60, you know they both would've played had it been an SEC game or Clemson. We instead had a bunch of injuries on Saturday. :smh:

A 9th conference game as was in place as proposed by the ACC til it was nixed would've caused us to cancel the UGA game. Clemson apparently has an agreement to play a dfferent smaller school in SC to help them financially (they get a big paypay to get blowed out) plus it gives us the easy non-conference game that's pretty much standard in NCAA football. Yeah, some ACC games are cupcakes anyway but they still mean something.
 
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Holy ****. :lol:

I saw the pics but they don't compare. I'd like to see the whole play develop. I can kinda see something like maybe getting knocked back by a defender and getting spun into a teammate who blocks you for a second by mistake for a second but wtf???
 
LMAOOOO @ those 2 Gators, check the GSU player near the endzone in the pic

5* MLB Raekwon McMillan set his announcement date for Dec. 16th, Early Enrollee...I think he goes to Clemson.
 
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Florida State had to schedule the cupcake due to WVU backing out, which is the reason we played Savannah State last year
 
Butch just said Vols are going to have 16 Early Enrollees and he will find a way to sign 35 in this class :lol:

And some idio fans threatened Cam Sutton's life via social media. Smh they better leave Lil Boosie's 1st cousin alone before they get what they looking for lol
 
10508 Cardo Jr Ln said:
LMAOOOO @ those 2 Gators, check the ref near the endzone in the pic

5* MLB Raekwon McMillan set his announcement date for Dec. 16th, Early Enrollee...I think he goes to Clemson.
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Hearing Bama is more likely but he could end up at Clemson.

Why do we keep stealing all these top GA recruits? Just paying more or what? I mean, most were on board before week 1 so it has nothing to do with the season.

If it's not this:

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Is it this?

November 24, 2013

With God on Our Side

By Brad Wolverton

Clemson, S.C.

Last season, Dabo Swinney, the head football coach at Clemson University, gathered his team on the practice field one day for an important announcement. "Someone is about to turn their life over to Christ," he said.

DeAndre Hopkins, a star wide receiver, stepped forward. A livestock trough had been placed near the 50-yard line and filled with water. Mr. Hopkins, still wearing his uniform and pads, climbed in. As several dozen teammates and coaches looked on, he was baptized.

At Clemson, God is everywhere. The team's chaplain leads a Bible study for coaches every Monday and Thursday. Another three times a week, the staff gathers for devotionals. Nearly every player shows up at a voluntary chapel service the night before each game.

The players all know the coach's favorite Bible verse, 1 Corinthians 9:24-25: "Run your race to win, don't just run the race."

"I'm a Christian," Coach Swinney tells Clemson recruits. "If you have a problem with that, you don't have to be here."

Before they ever joined the team, some of them prayed with coaches on the phone during recruiting calls. On recruiting visits, they heard from Mr. Swinney: "I'm a Christian. If you have a problem with that, you don't have to be here."

Once they arrive, among the first people they meet are two men nicknamed Thunder and Lightning, former Clemson stars who became preachers after their playing days. Their focus, they say, is turning young players into men. But much of the time, they are sharing Christian messages. Last month, when a recruit's mother asked one of them to describe his job, he told her, "I'm in charge of praying—period."

Christian influences are common in college football, but many people see Clemson as unique. Its approach plays well in this deeply religious state. But it raises questions about the appropriate place for God at a public university.

Clemson officials insist they don't force religion on players, and that they are open to people of all faiths. "I've had Muslims, Catholics—I've got two Mormons on this team right now," says Mr. Swinney, a boyish-looking 44-year-old with a straight-talking Southern drawl.

The only discriminating he does is based on talent, he says: "When we get out on the football field, it's not about if you're a Christian, it's about who's the best player."

James F. Barker, the university's president, says the football staff is careful to offer religious guidance only when players seek it. He compliments Mr. Swinney for building a program—10-1 ahead of this week's clash with South Carolina—that has been successful on and off the field.

"One of the things we like to emphasize here is the importance of character," Mr. Barker says. "Sometimes it's hard to take spirituality out of that."

But critics say the university should be more mindful about alienating players who do not share the prevailing belief.

"You can't stop someone from expressing their own views," says Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, an advocacy group. "But if the university has a culture of evangelizing on the football team, that needs to stop."

Even if students are not being coerced, she says, the repeated religious messages are inappropriate for a state-funded institution. "They need to honor freedom of conscience and not take students who are impressionable and need their approval and push religion on them."


After Mr. Swinney was named head coach, in 2008, one of his first moves was to ask Jeff Davis, then a fund raiser at the university, to become director of player development. Mr. Davis, a co-captain on Clemson's 1981 national-championship team, says he saw it as an opportunity to help players "embrace their purpose."

Along with James Trapp, the chaplain, he attends practices and stands on the sidelines during games. But while coaches look at players primarily through the lens of athletics, Mr. Davis says his responsibility is to see the whole person.

"Clemson's got a lot of guys who want to be recognized nationally for their talent," he says. "My job is to teach them, 'You can be something without being a football player.'"

Many students pay heed to Mr. Davis's advice, hanging out on the couch in his office, where a sign above the door says, "The House of Truth." Along with lessons on manhood, he can school them on the Gospel. Several years ago, he helped start a church just off the campus. On some Sundays, as many as 20 Clemson players come listen to him preach.

Next door to Mr. Davis's office is Mr. Trapp, a former NFL defensive back who had a penchant for playing dirty. As a member of the Oakland Raiders, in the 1990s, he was often flagged for personal fouls, and once sprinted from the sidelines in street clothes to join an on-field fight. Late in his 12-year pro career, he found religion after attending a Bible study for players.

At Clemson, one of his first tasks was to learn the limits of sharing his faith. "I can't just say, 'Hey, man, here's a Bible,'" he says. "I can say, 'Hey, here's some Bibles—do you want one?'" He keeps a stack of Bibles in his office, compliments of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, a group whose aim is to spread the word of God through sports.

Every week, Mr. Trapp offers workshops to help athletes explore their spirituality. The most popular, called "Battlegrounds," includes a dozen or more players from different teams. Members of the group share personal stories, including tales of deadbeat dads and family members' drug addictions, and together talk about how God can offer refuge. For students who need more-individual work, the chaplain schedules one-on-one sessions—what he calls "trench warfare."

Visits often lead to moments of self-reflection, as both men push students to think about moral choices. On a whiteboard in his office, Mr. Trapp keeps a list of Bible verses and questions to raise with players. Above a reference to the book of Luke, he had scribbled the words, "Do good people go to heaven?"

Questions like that are meant to challenge students. But not everyone is comfortable with them.

"Some guys have stamped in there and tippy-toed out," says Brad Scott, an assistant athletic director and former coach who helps first-year players make the transition to college. "They're not serving warm milk and cookies."

Last month, on the day Clemson played Florida State University, the two ministers manned the entrance to the players' dining room as a parade of high-school recruits came shuffling through. It was the team's biggest game of the year, and more than 150 prospects were in town.

During introductions, a few players mumbled their names, and Mr. Trapp pounced.

"You like your name?" he asked, his voice rising above the din. "Say it loud!"

One player who passed through was a speedy cornerback from Alabama who had not previously shown interest in Clemson. When he walked in, Mr. Trapp stepped away from his greeting duties to follow him across the room.

Like Mr. Trapp, who was once a world-class sprinter, this student has the potential to excel in two sports. The chaplain set his hands on the player's shoulders and narrowed his focus.

"Do you think you can beat my record?" Mr. Trapp challenged, ticking off accomplishments that include a spot on the 1992 Olympic team and a Super Bowl ring. "Because you can't do that at every school," he said, as some top programs won't let students play more than one sport.

In a few minutes of spirited chatter—with Mr. Trapp doing most of the talking—he emphasized the need to focus on more than football and described his own transition to life beyond the game.

"One day your sport will leave you—then what are you going to have?" he asked, his orange Clemson cap nearly touching the student's face. After his NFL career ended, Mr. Trapp said, "my body was broke, but my mind was straight."

"Remember that," he said, backing away. "We'll talk."


Coach Swinney also uses his background to connect with players. A native of Pelham, Ala., he was the first in his family to attend college, relying on Pell Grants and student loans.

After landing a spot as a walk-on wide receiver at the University of Alabama, he earned three varsity letters and played on a national-championship team. He completed his undergraduate degree in business and added an M.B.A. while working as a graduate assistant on the team.

If he ever became a head coach, he promised himself, he would make education a high priority. "I've held the ball in my arm, I've got rings and all that stuff—and all of it fades quickly," he says. "That degree stays with you forever."

In his five years atop Clemson's program, the team's graduation-success rate has climbed 10 percentage points, to nearly 80 percent. Its academic-progress rate, which measures real-time progress toward degree, is in the top 15 in the country, just above Harvard's.

In every player's locker hangs a list of the program's priorities, which players and coaches refer to as the "ten commandments." No, not those Ten Commandments—the "Clemson Commandments," which include reminders to keep up on classwork and to "never lose faith."

Mr. Swinney says many big-time football programs, particularly those in the South, allow students to explore their religious interests. But players and parents say Clemson's emphasis is different.

Tim Boyd, the father of Clemson's starting quarterback, Tajh Boyd, says the religious priorities were clear from the start. On a visit to Mr. Swinney's home, he noticed that the coach and his wife, Kathleen, made a point of not serving alcohol. And as the coach showed photos from his own playing days, he spoke about his beliefs, quoting Scripture and describing his foundation in the church. That focus won the Boyds over.

"Dabo could've been coaching for Wofford—I think Tajh would've gone to Wofford," Mr. Boyd says. "That's how much faith we had in him." (Their relationship has flourished. Tajh Boyd, now a senior, has the Tigers positioned for a major bowl game. He also stars in a national video for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.)

Players and parents notice a focus on family here that they don't see many other places. Every Wednesday is family night, when coaches and staff members bring their spouses and children to the team dinner. Players say that provides a positive model, especially for students who don't come from two-parent homes.

Mr. Swinney also encourages kids to hang around his team's practices, a move designed to help keep coaches on their best behavior. Whenever a coach gets too worked up, the chaplain walks up behind him and tugs on his pants pocket.

Values like that invite a certain kind of player. "It's not to say they're not recruiting anyone who's not Christian, but people who are initially interested in Clemson are people whose faith and religion do matter to them," says Cullen Harper, a former quarterback here.

Ebenezer (Ebo) Ogundeko, a freshman from Brooklyn, N.Y., picked the Tigers over Alabama, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, and other programs. One of his reasons: "I felt like coming to Clemson would bring me closer to Jesus," he told The Chronicle. "Most dudes on the team, they take their religion very seriously, and their relationship with Jesus Christ. They've encouraged me to move closer and closer to God."

Rolitha Oglesby, the mother of Shaq Lawson, a freshman defensive end, has seen her son grow spiritually since he enrolled, in January. Growing up, he went to church with the family, but lately he has shown more and more interest in his faith.

Soon after arriving, he let his mother know he needed a Bible for his room. In May, he posted a photo on Facebook revealing a striking new tattoo, with the words "Jesus Christ is my Savior" spread across his chest.

Dozens of other players also display signs of faith. Many wear orange and purple wristbands inscribed with Bible verses, which one player's parents bought for the whole team. Others have biblical references on their Twitter bios. "Don't follow me, follow Jesus," says the page of one Clemson recruit.

Game days are awash in religious ritual. Players mark their faces with crosses, write inspirational messages on their wrist tape ("Blessed"), and kneel together in groups to pray.

Players and coaches say the religious activities are often led by students. At least one night a week, players sit down for Bible studies together. Others are active in campus ministries. On Thursdays, a handful of team members attend a popular worship service featuring a local Christian rock band. Many weeks, 900 or more students show up.

Mr. Swinney keeps religion in the top of players' minds. He has a Bible on his desk and quotes from it frequently in team meetings. The good book, he says, is full of meaningful messages that can be applied to anyone.

"Listen: 'Bad company corrupts good character.' You don't have to be a Christian to understand that," he says. "'What you do in the dark comes out in light'—one of my favorite things in the Bible—in Proverbs, I believe. You don't have to be a Christian to get that. And those are the seeds you plant in guys."

Players say that the words can have a persuasive effect.

"If you're there, you're going to know Jesus, you're going to know verses in the Bible—it's weaved in the culture," says Rashard Hall, a former standout at safety. "There's a drawing in towards Christianity."

For him, the messages were about more than religion, as coaches and staff members did much to help him develop as a person. "You have guys who are successful and who you admire and want to be like. I want to end up being the kind of man—the kind of husband and father and Christian—that Jeff Davis is. And when he gives all the credit to God, ... it's got to make you want to be like that."

Some players who don't share Mr. Swinney's beliefs say they were not offended by his approach.

Aaron Kelly, a former Clemson receiver who is a Jehovah's Witness, says his coach was respectful of his religious choices. But sometimes he felt "a little left out" as he watched his teammates attend church together, gather for Bible studies, or have baptisms.

He estimates that 10 to 15 receivers were baptized from 2004 to 2008, when he was there. During much of that time, Mr. Swinney was the receivers' coach.

But over all, Mr. Kelly thinks the Christian focus was positive for the team. "Any time you go through a life-changing experience," he says, referring to the baptisms, "it bonds you and brings you closer."


Two hours before kickoff against Florida State, Mr. Trapp headed into the bowels of the stadium, where he would meet with Coach Swinney in a private room. As the chaplain described the scene, it was a "moment of complete relaxation under the Lord."

Game days are awash in religious ritual. Players mark their faces with crosses, write inspirational messages on their wrist tape, and kneel together to pray.
Tamika Moore for The Chronicle

The solitude didn't last long. From the opening drive until the final whistle, Mr. Swinney's team was outplayed in nearly every aspect of the game, falling 51-14 to a powerful Seminoles squad.

Afterward, Coach Swinney came into a quiet locker room and stood before his team.

"This one's on me," he told them. Then, after a few words of encouragement, everyone joined hands to give thanks, according to several people who were there.

"Lord, help us learn from this," Mr. Swinney prayed. "We take glory in everything you do, win or lose."

Hours later, after his radio show was over, Coach Swinney walked through a mostly deserted locker room, stopping to talk with each of the dozen or so players who had hung around.

"Hey, man, I love you," he told Travis Blanks, a sophomore safety. "We're going to get this right."

Early the next morning, Mr. Blanks was still thinking about his coach, so he sent him a text. "He was on my heart," the player said later. "I knew that loss was tough on him."

He told Mr. Swinney how much he meant to the program, and how proud of him he was.

"You," he wrote, "are a strong man of God."

Not sure how I feel about it. I know you read it all.
 
From what I understand the Huff and DAT statements were chopped responses to questions about what they thought about playing in the Rose Bowl instead of the national championship, but true or not now no one needs to worry :lol:

(Also I still remember when a 2 loss season was awesome. 2004 wasn't that long ago :lol: )
 
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