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That's a slippery slope. I "don't mind" if they talk that mess because people should be able to say what they want but we have to educate the public that words have consequences. It's all just words and jokes till somebody hits a hot button.

Not to draw mess but NH is protective of his moms while he also talks about comedians ought to be able to tell whatever joke they want

I understand the slippery slope argument, I do. And I understand exceptions for satire. But when people are being ran over by vehicles, the slope is already as slippery as it is going to get. Further restrictions on hate-filled speech would be a positive change to the current state of the law in my opinion.
 
The thing with protesting is it's not supposed to be what the government allows etc

Trying to suppress who can protest and why will very very quickly worsen the situation. It's unavoidable.

Those idiots attempt to hang their hat on the idea that they are acting within the confines of the law. Change the law, expose the hypocrisy, lock those idiots away.
 
Lol why do you guys all claim you're centrist

"You guys". Sums up a lot. You're carving your cheap rusty knives, you're frothing at the mouth - and you are unable to land a coherent thought on me.

In your mind I'm a WRONGTHINKER because I'm not in your gally of sheep and I don't hate Trump. There's a wider world out there who looks at you, your anger and inability to form a contructive argument and just shrugs their shoulders.

"You guys" LMAO. You don't have a clue who I am.
 
Yea you might be giving the government too much power if you allow them to restrict free speech/censor ppl.

If the government can tell you that you have to wear a seatbelt, and that you can't legally snort cocaine, the government can say hateful racist can't organize and "protest."
 
I understand the slippery slope argument, I do. And I understand exceptions for satire. But when people are being ran over by vehicles, the slope is already as slippery as it is going to get. Further restrictions on hate-filled speech would be a positive change to the current state of the law in my opinion.

I think you're mergin' two different issues. The vehicular manslaughter and hate speech to me are separate. Words vs actions.

But who gets to define what hate speech is? The phrase "Black Lives Matter" is likely seen as hate speech and that it incites violence to some but does it really? Can't battle how these people feel because majority of them don't deal in fact so those won't matter.
 
I think you're mergin' two different issues. The vehicular manslaughter and hate speech to me are separate. Words vs actions.

But who gets to define what hate speech is? The phrase "Black Lives Matter" is likely seen as hate speech and that it incites violence to some but does it really? Can't battle how these people feel because majority of them don't deal in fact so those won't matter.

Your points are valid. And I don't know the answer. I do know that the protest, in my opinion, were unacceptable (even without the violence). I think violence is inevitable in situations where such protest are allowed. In terms of the vehicular homicide, dude will probably be in jail for the rest of his life (or the death penalty), so the law is already where it needs to be in terms of that.
 
"You guys". Sums up a lot. You're carving your cheap rusty knives, you're frothing at the mouth - and you are unable to land a coherent thought on me.

In your mind I'm a WRONGTHINKER because I'm not in your gally of sheep and I don't hate Trump. There's a wider world out there who looks at you, your anger and inability to form a contructive argument and just shrugs their shoulders.

"You guys" LMAO. You don't have a clue who I am.

What are you talking about?
 
Those idiots attempt to hang their hat on the idea that they are acting within the confines of the law. Change the law, expose the hypocrisy, lock those idiots away.

There will be larger protests, riots, and more deaths I can pretty much assure you.

These people are already subscribed to the idea that they're being unfairly persecuted as they march in the streets essentially unchecked carrying Nazi flags and automatic weapons. Watch what happens if the government tells them they can't even have protests.

Dudes will be out here creating warzones.
 
They have that freedom. Does that freedom to spew that mess eliminate people's almost natural reaction to become angry and violent against them?

People need to work on resolving personal conflict without using violence.

That's exactly my point. Since that is the natural reaction, perhaps they shouldn't have that freedom to spew the nonsense in the first place.

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"You guys". Sums up a lot. You're carving your cheap rusty knives, you're frothing at the mouth - and you are unable to land a coherent thought on me.

In your mind I'm a WRONGTHINKER because I'm not in your gally of sheep and I don't hate Trump. There's a wider world out there who looks at you, your anger and inability to form a contructive argument and just shrugs their shoulders.

"You guys" LMAO. You don't have a clue who I am.
Please seek help from a qualified mental health professional in your area.
 
"You guys". Sums up a lot. You're carving your cheap rusty knives, you're frothing at the mouth - and you are unable to land a coherent thought on me.

In your mind I'm a WRONGTHINKER because I'm not in your gally of sheep and I don't hate Trump. There's a wider world out there who looks at you, your anger and inability to form a contructive argument and just shrugs their shoulders.

"You guys" LMAO. You don't have a clue who I am.
That's right, patriot brother! We all know the disgusting, elitist libbies are the WRONGTHINKERS! Their smug, kale sipping, Prius driving, education having subhuman lives don't mean a thing when we have to make this country COAL again! Their big, nonsensical words can't stick like glue when we're made of rubber and coal :pimp: The anger that these libbies show when a BROTHER PATRIOT does his God given duty of Challenging the libbies who protest our tolerance for when America was MERICA is just pitiful. These globalist ****s have no idea what their snowflake lives are in for when da climate adjustment hits them and we get back on the COOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLL TRAIN :pimp:
 
For whatever reason, we've had a number of conservatives here who insisted on claiming to be an "independent" while defending each and every Trump criticism with deflection, whataboutism, ... and despite their "independent centrist views", could never seem to find anything positive to say about anything besides Trump.
Most have gotten themselves banned over time because they failed to contain racist views, otherwise we'd have a lot more conservatives

It remains to be seen if you will follow that trend, but I just find that trend very strange. As do others I'm sure. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with being conservative, so I don't see why they those individuals all tried to disingenuously portray themselves as independent centrists.

For an equivalent, imagine if RustyShackleford RustyShackleford started insisting he's a centrist independent :lol:
 
I actually know the law. And despite what you may think of it, many forms of disrespectful utterances are ok under the first amendment. You should research the case law on "fighting words." Further, the city was aware that these were racist, hate-filled individuals when they granted them the permit. As a nation we need to re-evaluate whether these individuals should be allowed the right to "protest" in the first place.
I apologize if that came off pompous, and it wasn't solely directed at you, but you're implying that rallies like this are legal. They are not, and the permit was rescinded.

'Fighting words' actually speaks directly to my point.

Would you happen to have a formal education in law or Government? 'Fighting Words' is something I definitely only recognize because it was part of my college education.

It's definitely a grey area, but that grey area does not apply here at all. Not quite sure how it supports your argument.
 
That's right, patriot brother! We all know the disgusting, elitist libbies are the WRONGTHINKERS! Their smug, kale sipping, Prius driving, education having subhuman lives don't mean a thing when we have to make this country COAL again! Their big, nonsensical words can't stick like glue when we're made of rubber and coal :pimp: The anger that these libbies show when a BROTHER PATRIOT does his God given duty of Challenging the libbies who protest our tolerance for when America was MERICA is just pitiful. These globalist ****s have no idea what their snowflake lives are in for when da climate adjustment hits them and we get back on the COOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLL TRAIN :pimp:

I think we need to officially invite nerdistfan to the squad. He has RUSTY and the Kale Gang on the run. Cue the SHOOK ONES VIDEO.
 
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