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Just follow the skin color of the people being affected, the darker it gets, the less the media cares.
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That Ivory Coast beach attack was awful :x :x 
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Makes no sense? What world you living in fam? Poor people have been getting shafted since time immemorial. However, I don't think that many people are blaming Obama for being callous rather than the media exaggerating the story for ratings and to get you all mad.
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Akward indeed. Me acknowledging the reality of the situation =/= saying it's ok
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As a child of Africans this has always annoyed, untold carnage can go on in Africa, but let some Europeans be involved and everyone loses all sense of perspective.
I can concur with this... Turkey got blown up
Last week..other than a twitter trending hashtag & a summary on da drive by news..straight indifference..
That part of da world scares da **** outta me anyways..
Peep this
Looks like da end of avengers.
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Should Obama cancel his plans every time something bad happens in Europe? He's on the other side of the ocean.
His visit in Cuba is a historical moment, and as someone who lives about an hour away from the terrorist attacks in Brussels I support him staying there and finishing his business. Do these people think we're anxiously waiting for Obama to give a speech?
People making a big deal out of nothing just to get another chance at slandering him. Best believe they give no damns about the terrorist attacks that happen daily in less affluent countries but when it's in Brussels they suddenly care and slander Obama.
Obama is a great president in my eyes and this does nothing to change that. Let him cook.
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U really wanna stand by da "fake outrage"
comment in an era where liveleak footage of
Folks with their legs & heads blown off
At Brussels is a twitter link away?ill
Let u walk it back if u want..
I'm talk about the folks who want to politicize this tragedy, for their agenda. Nothing more than fake outrage, what can Obama do?
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I mean they dont call da president of da United States "da leader
Of da free world" for no reason...when
Pundits on both sides of da political
spectrum have expressed frustration with
Obama's acquiescence in terms of his handling
Of ISIS its a problem...
Of da free world" for no reason...when
Pundits on both sides of da political
spectrum have expressed frustration with
Obama's acquiescence in terms of his handling
Of ISIS its a problem...
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Yo Ninja, when did you learn to post small pics?
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Google those dates.. and tell me what GW Bush did after those attacks on our embassies or would you like me to post it?
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It's really a shame, but all these tragedies will continue to happen. There are too many people to keep tabs on, and eventually some of them will fall through the cracks. It's terrible that we live in a world where we have to fear the ordinary things such as using the subway to get to work. 
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What the hell do people expect form Obama on this?
It just seems folk love to criticize him, yet offer no suggestions of what he "should" be doing. You have islamophobia and fear mongering coming at him from all directions, thanks now to these Bill Maher types.
-We should bomb ISIS.............he is doing that
-We should build a coalition to fight them..................we are doing that
No one wants boots on the ground, not even many on the right. So that option is cut off for Obama, and the only option left for pundits is to complain.
Hell it has gotten to the point that war crimes are being suggested by presidential candidates as a viable way to fight ISIS
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Like I said before, all recent presidents foreign policy have been ****. If just depends how big of a load did they dump. Clinton and Obama have drop turds, but not the piling heaps other presidents like Reagan and Bush have.
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Finally on the hypocrisy already discussed. The Africa aspect has already been touched on. But....
The same people that are complaining about emotional reaction not being enough when they see one of our European "allies" getting attacked
Are the same people that want Obama to keep his mouth shut when a black AMERICAN kid is killed in the streets, and minority neighborhoods being harassed by the police
And are the same ones that refuse to talk about how Europe handles its economies, because all the social democracy can't work in America.
But, when they see white Europeans dying at the hand of someone black or brown, the world must come to a stop, and all attention must be put on Europe.
It just seems folk love to criticize him, yet offer no suggestions of what he "should" be doing. You have islamophobia and fear mongering coming at him from all directions, thanks now to these Bill Maher types.
-We should bomb ISIS.............he is doing that
-We should build a coalition to fight them..................we are doing that
No one wants boots on the ground, not even many on the right. So that option is cut off for Obama, and the only option left for pundits is to complain.
Hell it has gotten to the point that war crimes are being suggested by presidential candidates as a viable way to fight ISIS
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Like I said before, all recent presidents foreign policy have been ****. If just depends how big of a load did they dump. Clinton and Obama have drop turds, but not the piling heaps other presidents like Reagan and Bush have.
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Finally on the hypocrisy already discussed. The Africa aspect has already been touched on. But....
The same people that are complaining about emotional reaction not being enough when they see one of our European "allies" getting attacked
Are the same people that want Obama to keep his mouth shut when a black AMERICAN kid is killed in the streets, and minority neighborhoods being harassed by the police
And are the same ones that refuse to talk about how Europe handles its economies, because all the social democracy can't work in America.
But, when they see white Europeans dying at the hand of someone black or brown, the world must come to a stop, and all attention must be put on Europe.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/24/inside-the-mafia-isis-connection.html
The mobsters have the weapons, and they’re making a killing selling them off to Islamic radicals.
CASTEL VOLTURNO, Italy — By the time Aziz Ehsan, a 46-year-old Iraqi, was arrested near Naples on Tuesday, local anti-mafia police had already been trailing him for days to determine just why he was in the heartland of the Camorra crime syndicate’s territory. He was well known by both the French and Belgian secret services, which list him as a suspected ISIS contact. The Neapolitan cops were also aware of an international arrest warrant for him in Switzerland, where he was wanted in connection with a variety of offenses, including forgery, assault, and possession of illegal weapons.
He was apparently just the type of person Italian authorities thought might provide a valuable clue as they work to piece together the details of the complex relationship between Jihadist fighters and Italy’s various mobs.
But when the attacks took place in Brussels, the authorities decided it was time to move in and get him. He was arrested as he slept in a car with Italian license plates registered to a deceased man on Tuesday and is awaiting extradition to Switzerland, France, or Belgium.
He claimed that he was in the area to scout out luxury hotels for rich Iraqi tourists, but the police didn’t buy it; he appeared to have been living in the car for days. They also pointed to an absence of notebooks, a laptop, or tablet—items you’d think to bring on a research trip. His no-frills, no contract “burner” cell phone, like the kind currently favored by Western jihadis, was another sign that Ehsan wasn’t in the region to see which five-star hotels offered the best glass of Limoncello.
“We executed a European arrest warrant near Naples and arrested an Iraqi citizen known to the Belgian and French secret service,” Italy’s interior minister Angelino Alfano declared after his arrest. “He was in contact with terrorists.”
Ehsan’s presence in Italy very likely posed no imminent threat to anyone in this country, but it may be extremely significant in Europe’s losing battle against ISIS-motivated terrorism. Authorities now want to know if Ehsan was here on business, especially if he was working with the Camorra to secure false documents or illegal arms—both big moneymakers for the Neapolitan clans.
Since the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris in January 2015, Italian anti-mafia and anti-terrorism officials have been unraveling long-standing connections between Jihadi fighters and the Camorra in Naples. They have also uncovered ties to the Sicilian Cosa Nostra Mafia and the Calabrese ‘Ndrangheta gang, tracing weapons being trafficked in from the former Yugoslavia and several African nations which allegedly arrive easily in Neapolitan ports.
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Italian anti-mafia police have made three major arrests in the last 12 months, during which they have confiscated major weapons arsenals that included Kalashnikov rifles, sub-machine guns, body armor, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition that were ready to be sold to terrorist connections. They even found a price list for a wide variety of weapons available for prices ranging from €250 to €3,000 that was printed in Arabic, French, and Italian.
“Naples has been, for many years, a central logistics base for the Middle East. The Camorra is also active in the world of Jihadist terrorism that passes through Naples,” Franco Roberti, head of Italy’s a prominent anti-mafia judge told The Daily Beast before the Brussels attacks. “Naples lends itself to this type of activity. In the past there have been contacts between Jihadi militants and the Camorra clans.”
He says that Italy’s mafia-fighting forces have “thwarted plots and synergies” between the terrorists and the mobsters. What’s not known, of course, is how many plots they’ve missed.
It is certainly a well-known fact that the Camorra runs a highly successful enterprise in the lawless Neapolitan hinterland running drugs, illegal arms and forged documents that make it especially easy for anyone entering Europe illegally to pass through even the tightest borders. It is just as well-known that the main client base has never been strictly Italian.
“We have evidence that groups of the Camorra are implicated in an exchange of weapons for drugs with terrorist groups,” Pierluigi Vigna, Italy’s national anti-mafia prosecutor said before he passed away in 2012.
Vigna’s words were quoted in a variety of Wikileaks cables that imply that the United States government has been well aware of the terrorist-mafia connection for some time. “Criminal interaction between Italian organized crime and Islamic extremist groups provides potential terrorists with access to funding and logistical support from criminal organizations with established smuggling routes and an entrenched presence in the United States,” according to one cable on Italy penned by the FBI.
Investigators say logistics help in moving Jihadi fighters through Europe is one of the hardest rackets to crack. Last summer, Salah Abdeslam, who, until last week, was the most wanted man in Europe for his role in the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris, traveled freely through Italy with the help of a network of what could be referred to as mafia-sponsored terrorism travel agents.
Authorities in Italy say he boarded a ferry in Bari headed for Greece last August, and that he used a pre-paid Italian debit card until the Paris attacks. Authorities say he used his real name tied to fake Italian documents in both instances.
The idea of Europe’s most wanted man running free is concerning enough. But what is at least as worrying is that the weapons being trafficked into Italy will end up being used in European capitals. Michele del Prete, an Italian counter-terrorism official who has been focusing on the links between organized crime and violent jihadists, warns that the two forces of evil have found a comfortable partnership. “It is established and proven that the lawless climate in Naples has often created favorable conditions for logistical support, exchange of weapons, and false documents,” he said. “There are specialized groups we have tracked in various municipalities and prefectures that we know are facilitating terrorism.”
Investigator Roberti takes it a step further. “Campania, especially the province of Caserta and Castel Volturno, is one of the main gateways into Europe for those who want to become a terrorist,” he said. “It has been demonstrated by numerous investigations. On this now, there are no doubts.”
CASTEL VOLTURNO, Italy — By the time Aziz Ehsan, a 46-year-old Iraqi, was arrested near Naples on Tuesday, local anti-mafia police had already been trailing him for days to determine just why he was in the heartland of the Camorra crime syndicate’s territory. He was well known by both the French and Belgian secret services, which list him as a suspected ISIS contact. The Neapolitan cops were also aware of an international arrest warrant for him in Switzerland, where he was wanted in connection with a variety of offenses, including forgery, assault, and possession of illegal weapons.
He was apparently just the type of person Italian authorities thought might provide a valuable clue as they work to piece together the details of the complex relationship between Jihadist fighters and Italy’s various mobs.
But when the attacks took place in Brussels, the authorities decided it was time to move in and get him. He was arrested as he slept in a car with Italian license plates registered to a deceased man on Tuesday and is awaiting extradition to Switzerland, France, or Belgium.
He claimed that he was in the area to scout out luxury hotels for rich Iraqi tourists, but the police didn’t buy it; he appeared to have been living in the car for days. They also pointed to an absence of notebooks, a laptop, or tablet—items you’d think to bring on a research trip. His no-frills, no contract “burner” cell phone, like the kind currently favored by Western jihadis, was another sign that Ehsan wasn’t in the region to see which five-star hotels offered the best glass of Limoncello.
“We executed a European arrest warrant near Naples and arrested an Iraqi citizen known to the Belgian and French secret service,” Italy’s interior minister Angelino Alfano declared after his arrest. “He was in contact with terrorists.”
Ehsan’s presence in Italy very likely posed no imminent threat to anyone in this country, but it may be extremely significant in Europe’s losing battle against ISIS-motivated terrorism. Authorities now want to know if Ehsan was here on business, especially if he was working with the Camorra to secure false documents or illegal arms—both big moneymakers for the Neapolitan clans.
Since the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris in January 2015, Italian anti-mafia and anti-terrorism officials have been unraveling long-standing connections between Jihadi fighters and the Camorra in Naples. They have also uncovered ties to the Sicilian Cosa Nostra Mafia and the Calabrese ‘Ndrangheta gang, tracing weapons being trafficked in from the former Yugoslavia and several African nations which allegedly arrive easily in Neapolitan ports.
01:40
01:40
Italian anti-mafia police have made three major arrests in the last 12 months, during which they have confiscated major weapons arsenals that included Kalashnikov rifles, sub-machine guns, body armor, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition that were ready to be sold to terrorist connections. They even found a price list for a wide variety of weapons available for prices ranging from €250 to €3,000 that was printed in Arabic, French, and Italian.
“Naples has been, for many years, a central logistics base for the Middle East. The Camorra is also active in the world of Jihadist terrorism that passes through Naples,” Franco Roberti, head of Italy’s a prominent anti-mafia judge told The Daily Beast before the Brussels attacks. “Naples lends itself to this type of activity. In the past there have been contacts between Jihadi militants and the Camorra clans.”
He says that Italy’s mafia-fighting forces have “thwarted plots and synergies” between the terrorists and the mobsters. What’s not known, of course, is how many plots they’ve missed.
It is certainly a well-known fact that the Camorra runs a highly successful enterprise in the lawless Neapolitan hinterland running drugs, illegal arms and forged documents that make it especially easy for anyone entering Europe illegally to pass through even the tightest borders. It is just as well-known that the main client base has never been strictly Italian.
“We have evidence that groups of the Camorra are implicated in an exchange of weapons for drugs with terrorist groups,” Pierluigi Vigna, Italy’s national anti-mafia prosecutor said before he passed away in 2012.
Vigna’s words were quoted in a variety of Wikileaks cables that imply that the United States government has been well aware of the terrorist-mafia connection for some time. “Criminal interaction between Italian organized crime and Islamic extremist groups provides potential terrorists with access to funding and logistical support from criminal organizations with established smuggling routes and an entrenched presence in the United States,” according to one cable on Italy penned by the FBI.
Investigators say logistics help in moving Jihadi fighters through Europe is one of the hardest rackets to crack. Last summer, Salah Abdeslam, who, until last week, was the most wanted man in Europe for his role in the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris, traveled freely through Italy with the help of a network of what could be referred to as mafia-sponsored terrorism travel agents.
Authorities in Italy say he boarded a ferry in Bari headed for Greece last August, and that he used a pre-paid Italian debit card until the Paris attacks. Authorities say he used his real name tied to fake Italian documents in both instances.
The idea of Europe’s most wanted man running free is concerning enough. But what is at least as worrying is that the weapons being trafficked into Italy will end up being used in European capitals. Michele del Prete, an Italian counter-terrorism official who has been focusing on the links between organized crime and violent jihadists, warns that the two forces of evil have found a comfortable partnership. “It is established and proven that the lawless climate in Naples has often created favorable conditions for logistical support, exchange of weapons, and false documents,” he said. “There are specialized groups we have tracked in various municipalities and prefectures that we know are facilitating terrorism.”
Investigator Roberti takes it a step further. “Campania, especially the province of Caserta and Castel Volturno, is one of the main gateways into Europe for those who want to become a terrorist,” he said. “It has been demonstrated by numerous investigations. On this now, there are no doubts.”
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Umm..[emoji]129300[/emoji] Reagan defeated da spread of Communism & Herbert Walker Bush oversaw da
End da of da USSR & defeated Saddam in Desert Storm thou..
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Ummm, how about all the people butchered by the dictators supported by Reagan in attempts to stop the spread of "da communism"
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"da communism"
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Collateral damage b...cant make a omelette without breaking a few eggs..besides im sure
You're not missing sleep over da untold numbers of innocent people snuffed out by Obama's execution of da covert drone program
Or da fact that thousands were killed when da
Obama administration backed da muslim brotherhood in Egypt only to be toppled by
Its own citizen revolt a year later? Fair is
Fair right?
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Collateral damage b...cant make a omelette without breaking a few eggs..besides im sure
You're not missing sleep over da untold numbers of innocent people snuffed out by Obama's execution of da covert drone program
Or da fact that thousands were killed when da
Obama administration backed da muslim brotherhood in Egypt only to be toppled by
Its own citizen revolt a year later? Fair is
Fair right?
In case you missed it while you were gone. I have criticized Obama, on NT, for his actions in the middle east, especially his use of drones. Saying those drones are terrorizing people, and calling it **** boy steez.
So miss me with this
Like I said, all recent presidents foreign policy have been ****. Reagan and Bush piles are just bigger IMO
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Thats fair, and ill concede Reagon took some L in foreign policy(iran contra), but outta
all da recent Presidents, stopping da spread
of communism which effectively won da cold
War is da biggest W any president has gotten
In our modern era. I mean da Berlin wall falling was kind of a big deal...
Which Bush u referring to? Im gonna assume da son, cuz Herbert Walker Bush da pops was only in Office for 4 years and successfully executed Desert storm, and managed da non violent overthrow of da USSR in a humane manner without firin a shot...da son thou we all Know was basura, da pops? He was decent.
all da recent Presidents, stopping da spread
of communism which effectively won da cold
War is da biggest W any president has gotten
In our modern era. I mean da Berlin wall falling was kind of a big deal...
Which Bush u referring to? Im gonna assume da son, cuz Herbert Walker Bush da pops was only in Office for 4 years and successfully executed Desert storm, and managed da non violent overthrow of da USSR in a humane manner without firin a shot...da son thou we all Know was basura, da pops? He was decent.
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It's was a collective effort by POTUS for like 40 years that helped the defeat the spread of the communism.
Not just President Reagan.
Not just President Reagan.
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Word. Stop praising the guy that happened to be president at the time of communism being defeated when it was an effort that spanned half a century.
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By 1980, it was no longer if the Soviet Union would fall, it was when.
Reagan has some to do with that, but not nearly the amount that people want to give him credit for.
The Soviet Union was failing, there were enough powerful people in their political sphere, along with a tempered (due to fear of government backlash) public sentiment that questioned their economic system, and how it impacted their ability to be a powerful entity in the world.
Add in that the Soviet Union went through 4 leaders in 5 years.
Then add in that Gorbachev came into power in 1985, and drastically changed the landscape of USSR.
Also, Gorbachev was supposed to become leader of Soviet Union a year before he did, but Chemenko was chosen against Andropov's wishes who wanted Gorbachev.
Without Gorbachev's influence when he became president in 1985, and the couple of years before that, the Soviet Union would have tried to hold on for much longer.
There's many different people that are important to the fall of the Soviet Union, but Gorbachev is by far at the top of the list, without him actually wanting to and trying to move them away from Communism, that struggle would have gone on for a lot longer than it did. To disastrous impact across the world.
Reagan has some to do with that, but not nearly the amount that people want to give him credit for.
The Soviet Union was failing, there were enough powerful people in their political sphere, along with a tempered (due to fear of government backlash) public sentiment that questioned their economic system, and how it impacted their ability to be a powerful entity in the world.
Add in that the Soviet Union went through 4 leaders in 5 years.
Then add in that Gorbachev came into power in 1985, and drastically changed the landscape of USSR.
Also, Gorbachev was supposed to become leader of Soviet Union a year before he did, but Chemenko was chosen against Andropov's wishes who wanted Gorbachev.
Without Gorbachev's influence when he became president in 1985, and the couple of years before that, the Soviet Union would have tried to hold on for much longer.
There's many different people that are important to the fall of the Soviet Union, but Gorbachev is by far at the top of the list, without him actually wanting to and trying to move them away from Communism, that struggle would have gone on for a lot longer than it did. To disastrous impact across the world.
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I fell at one point the Republican Party had it right.
Like 10 years, it felt like you could understand what they were saying and it made sense based on the pardigm we knew.
That's kinda changed with the more and more information sources available and now the Republican and Conservative platform is looking funny in the light.
It like the party of old information.
Like 10 years, it felt like you could understand what they were saying and it made sense based on the pardigm we knew.
That's kinda changed with the more and more information sources available and now the Republican and Conservative platform is looking funny in the light.
It like the party of old information.
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