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[EddieDoyers]

People don't vote on policy Example # 1789898



Poor Kentuckians worried about Obamacare repeal.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...kentucky-worries-mount-over-medicaid-cutbacks



I mean....I want to feel bad for them, but I also want to point and laugh.

Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm living in real life or a dark comedy type of movie

 

[RustyShackleford]

No, I'm laughing. Those Kentucky ppl literally voted against the president that would've kept Obamacare intact. Now they crying about the repeal

It is worst.

They had a Dem governor, which they liked. He expanded Medicaid and the Kentucky website was major success.

When the Dem's term was up, they elected an idiot Tea Partier that promised to cut their healthcare. Then they reelected Mitch McConnell who was advocating repealing the ACA and when he was asked about the success of Kynect (the Kentucky marketplace website's name) before the election, he laughed it off like "The ACA must go, but we can keep the website". Not that he will find a way for Kentuckians to have health insurance, but the actual website can stay up if people like it.

When Trump easily wins the state, and to make matter worst, you would think these people would have some sense to at least send a moderate Dem to the Senate to keep the ACA alive under Trump. While they hope deregulation bring back coal (which it won't). They instead reelect Rand ******* Paul

I got a big heart so I feel bad for the folk that will suffer regardless. And there were people in the state that voted blue to save their *****.

But Jesus Christ. Kentucky is the perfect example of how the GOP have the folk so drunk on white supremacy they can't see 10 days into the future.

Idiots.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

How do the folks who voted for Trump due to not being a typical politician feel about how his cabinet is shaping up? Serious question, no tap dance answer.

They are too focused on the culture war to worry about that.


They are busy being mad at costal elites for seeing "Hamilton" than they are about who's in what cabinet position.



Also the media is complete in the thrall of Trump so I'm they see these euphemistic headlines as a good thing. "Conservative Fire brand Steve Banon" "Controversial senator Jeff Sessions." "Aggressive Genral Micahel Flynn"



Your democracy is at stake man, **** is falling apart, and the cable news is losing it's **** over Hamilton tweets.

 

[rolaholic]

@RawStory: Fox host rampages at black ‘Hamilton’ actor: Stick to ‘hip hop and dancing around the stage’ http://ow.ly/rLkj306m2NR

Sounding like the "shut the hell up and stick to sports" brigade who seem to hate the first amendment when it's used to speak out against injustice

 

[Master Zik]

I don't feel bad or can laugh at them.

Its good for them. They deserve it and earned it with their stupidity.

 

[gry60]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ies-to-be-2500-a-year-worse-off-by-2020-study

The combined impact of welfare cuts will leave struggling working families - the “just about managing” households Theresa May has vowed to help – worse off by more than £2,500 a year by 2020, according to research published days before her government’s first autumn statement.

A study of 187,000 households across the UK found that policies including cuts to universal credit and the four-year benefit rate freeze, coupled with rising rents and higher inflation, would see low-income working families typically lose £48.90 a week by the end of the decade.

The research will increase the pressure on the chancellor, Philip Hammond, to offer some relief to the “just about managing” families – or “Jams” – in Wednesday’s autumn statement. He warned on Sunday that the government is facing a “sharp challenge” in the face of the Brexit vote, but indicated that there would be some limited relief for those who are struggling.

The prime minister will also announce tax breaks and an annual £2bn investment fund for research and development to big businesses on Monday – an offer likely to be criticised for failing to address welfare cuts. She will further woo big business by slashing corporation tax to the lowest level out of the world’s top 20 economies, according to reports.

 

[gry60]

Identity politics

Spencer told journalists that he doesn't believe Trump himself is alt-right, the term he coined that's come to embody white supremacist, anti-Semitic and sexist ideas. But it was clear that his surprise election has given the once fringe movement a jolt, and on Saturday they were eager to take a victory lap. Spencer called Trump's campaign "the first step towards identity politics in the United States."

Before Trump, Spencer said, the alt-right was like a "head without a body," but then Trump came along and his campaign became "kind of a body without a head." He described the alt-right as having a "psychic connection" with Trump in way they don't have with other Republicans, and expressed hope that, "moving forward, the alt-right can, as an intellectual vanguard, complete Trump."

One of their chief policy proposals they hope to push through is a 50-year immigration freeze, with a preference given to European immigrants coming into the U.S. Spencer told NPR's Kelly McEvers in an interview Thursday that their ultimate goal was "a safe space effectively for Europeans," arguing for a return to the white origins of the country and protecting the white race.

Spencer was highly complimentary of Trump's first cabinet picks, particularly choosing Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions to be attorney general. Sessions is well-known for his hard-line immigration stances, and has had his own past controversy over race when he was voted down to be a federal judge in 1986 over remarks he'd made about the NAACP and allegedly called a white civil rights lawyer "a disgrace to his race."

He said that while Sessions was not alt-right necessarily, his views on immigration — and a belief that he may not fully enforce some civil rights protections — were encouraging to Spencer.

It's going to be a long ride...

 

[everysingletime]

Damn, I'm sick man

 

[frink85]

Wait, so taking shots at people through a public platform isn't cool...?

Edit: ship those fools back to Europe. They're not true Americans

 

[Nike Jordan]

People don't vote on policy Example # 1789898



Poor Kentuckians worried about Obamacare repeal.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...kentucky-worries-mount-over-medicaid-cutbacks



I mean....I want to feel bad for them, but I also want to point and laugh.

White folks in this country have been voting against their own self-interests for years if they think it will hurt "those people". 

 

[rexanglorum]

It is worst.

They had a Dem governor, which they liked. He expanded Medicaid and the Kentucky website was major success.

When the Dem's term was up, they elected an idiot Tea Partier that promised to cut their healthcare. Then they reelected Mitch McConnell who was advocating repealing the ACA and when he was asked about the success of Kynect (the Kentucky marketplace website's name) before the election, he laughed it off like "The ACA must go, but we can keep the website". Not that he will find a way for Kentuckians to have health insurance, but the actual website can stay up if people like it.

When Trump easily wins the state, and to make matter worst, you would think these people would have some sense to at least send a moderate Dem to the Senate to keep the ACA alive under Trump. While they hope deregulation bring back coal (which it won't). They instead reelect Rand ******* Paul

I got a big heart so I feel bad for the folk that will suffer regardless. And there were people in the state that voted blue to save their *****.

But Jesus Christ. Kentucky is the perfect example of how the GOP have the folk so drunk on white supremacy they can't see 10 days into the future.

Idiots.

But when those 19k a year Walmart security guards and truck drivers all become multi millionaires next year, they'll have the last laugh because they will have a really low top marginal rate.

 

[Master Zik]

 

[teamjordan79]

Obama needs to pack up and leave the white house already. US lost a lot of respect and allies as a result of this puppet. January can't come soon enough

 

[Master Zik]

Donald Trump needs to pack up and leave the white house already. US lost a lot of respect and allies as a result of this puppet. January 2020 can't come soon enough

Now it makes a lot more sense.

 

[iDon’tRead]

Why do people compare our healthcare with Canada which is truly socialized..

 

[equality]

Guess my dreams of moving to America is crumbling.

Sigh.

Fully serious too. Been working towards it my whole life now this 

 

[teamjordan79]

Donald Trump needs to pack up and leave the white house already. US lost a lot of respect and allies as a result of this puppet. January 2020 can't come soon enough

Now it makes a lot more sense.

im disillusioned with Obama if you need any more hints, yea.

 

[rico x hood]

He was a failed president. Many people were disappointed in his Presidency. A lot just won't say it. But the election said it. He put so much skin in the game trying to con us into electing Shillary, and his appeals were rejected.

 

[iDon’tRead]

But a majority was middle America / people with no hindsight was being disappointed by Obama .. Then the rich who know that trumps going to benefit them more, voted for trump .. Have you ever been in some of the counties where trump won?

 

[a-friend]

Who knows if"Obama's appeals to get Hillary elected" were rejected by the people, though.

I mean other than Trump winning, how do we really know Trump is really the one that America elected as President.

Americas votes, Electoral and Popular could have actually been for Hillary, and they gave us Trump instead.

I mean, this is the same institution that created 9/11.
I know Trump is the President Elect, but I can't be 100% sure that he was elected by the people.

 

[teamjordan79]

He was a failed president. Many people were disappointed in his Presidency. A lot just won't say it. But the election said it. He put so much skin in the game trying to con us into electing Shillary, and his appeals were rejected.

Obomber carried on the momentum of the Bush-Clinton dynasties. The facade of social progress on the front-end, executive order droning folks on the back-end. An eloquent, yet two-faced POTUS who reneged on his promises with his biggest legacy being elected as the first non-white president. Great. We were all with him at that point but that's when it stopped.

Just look at what's happening in North Dakota right now. Where's this kind-hearted, well-spoken president when you need him? Standing on the par 4?

 

[rico x hood]

Millenials and black voters came out in droves for Obama in 08 as well as some republicans. 2016...ehh not so much. Even after him crying on TV about how his legacy and all the "progress" he made was on the line. Still no.

If that isn't rejection then I don't know what is.

 

[a-friend]

What you see on TV isn't always the whole story.
We knew Millenials and Black voters came out in droves for the Obama election because? Because we saw it on the tele

 

[EddieDoyers]

He was a failed president. Many people were disappointed in his Presidency. A lot just won't say it. But the election said it. He put so much skin in the game trying to con us into electing Shillary, and his appeals were rejected.

Obomber carried on the momentum of the Bush-Clinton dynasties. The facade of social progress on the front-end, executive order droning folks on the back-end. An eloquent, yet two-faced POTUS who reneged on his promises with his biggest legacy being elected as the first non-white president. Great. We were all with him at that point but that's when it stopped.

Just look at what's happening in North Dakota right now. Where's this kind-hearted, well-spoken president when you need him? Standing on the par 4?

You do know that Trump approves of the North Dakota pipeline too
The elites never went away, they just put on a white face right now
Stay woke bruh
Anyway the only kinda good thing so far is that Russia and USA will have normalized relations
Baltic states about to get booty blasted doe

 

[rico x hood]

What you see on TV isn't always the whole story.
We knew Millenials and Black voters came out in droves for the Obama election because? Because we saw it on the tele

What exactly is it your pushing here?