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[Belgium]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-wisconsin-redistricting-idUSKBN13H0SV

Oh look, yet another court ruling on republicans rigging elections 

 
Republicans in Wisconsin tilted district maps in their favor in order to hamper Democrats and ultimately win state elections in 2012 and 2014, a federal court said on Monday in a case that could influence future rulings on gerrymandering.

The United States District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin decided 2-1 that Act 43, a redrawing of districts approved by the state's Republican-led legislature in 2012, violated the U.S. Constitution, court documents showed.

"We find that the discriminatory effect is not explained by the political geography of Wisconsin nor is it justified by a legitimate state interest," the court wrote in its ruling.

The case has no bearing on Donald Trump's victory in Wisconsin in the presidential election on Nov. 8, in which he defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton.

Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel said in a statement that he planned to appeal, which would send the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

A ruling there on gerrymandering - the practice of manipulating electoral boundaries for political advantage - could have wide implications across the country as similar cases in Maryland and North Carolina work their way through lower courts.

"This is a big victory for those who want to see courts rein in partisan gerrymandering. But it is anybody’s guess what happens to this when it gets to the Supreme Court," wrote Richard Hasen, an elections law expert at the University of California, Irvine, on his blog.

Since 2010, Republicans have more than doubled their control of state legislatures. They now control both legislative chambers in a record 32 states, the New York Times reported.

"Republicans win elections because we have better candidates and a better message that continues to resonate with the voters," said Republican Assembly Speaker Robin Vos in a statement.

Twelve Wisconsin voters argued in their lawsuit that Republicans redrew maps in 2011 to divide Democratic voters so they fall short of a majority in districts and to concentrate Democratic voters into districts so they win by overwhelming margins and dilute votes of Democrats statewide, according to the ruling.

Despite receiving 51 percent of the votes statewide in 2012, Democrats won only 39 of 99 Assembly seats. In 2014, Republicans won roughly the same percentage of votes statewide, but won 63 seats, a 24-seat disparity, judges wrote.

The Wisconsin case hinged on a new way to measure the discriminatory effect of gerrymandering. The "efficiency gap" measure found the redistricting in Wisconsin caused Democrats to waste more votes than Republicans.

The measure gives judges "a clear threshold for deciding what is acceptable”, Barry Burden, the director of the Elections Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, told the New York Times.

 

[daddy style]

What a world class piece of **** this dude is.

Are you surprised? He thinks just like some his supporters on this very thread.

 

[Nawzlew]

oh it's real.

i'm just waiting for him to offer up Melania and Ivanka as a way to make peace with Bill Clinton.

:x

He's probably already lost them,Bill's had his eye on the prize for a minute...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[RustyShackleford]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...news_1479845015&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news

This is one of the saddest things about Obama leaving and Clinton not coming in. This program is pretty much dead |I

 

[everysingletime]

so da OG muscle car era might not be coming back? Ninjahood is rolling over in his twin bed right now

Dude was ready to unload his savings account onto that hemi he always wanted

Lol. He has savings?

 

[Fozz]

He's probably already lost them,Bill's had his eye on the prize for a minute...

Bill knows. Oh, yes.

Side note: Has Trump said anything in detail about his proposed tax breaks? Interested in hearing what his plan is for that.

 

[Nike Jordan]

Trump might have been our guy after all
Now he just has to stop employing these white supremacists

I can tell you the character of a man, by the company that he keeps.

 

[Belgium]

 
they can kick rocks.

America gon' do what America whats to do.

thats why Obama ain't put up da paris accord as a treaty cux it would've been dead upon arrival.

its basically dead now come January.

Wonder what the spin will be about Trump being more open to science on climate change 

 

 

[EddieDoyers]

so da OG muscle car era might not be coming back? Ninjahood is rolling over in his twin bed right now

Dude was ready to unload his savings account onto that hemi he always wanted

Lol. He has savings?

He could sell off his shoe collection and da jesus piece

Trump might have been our guy after all

Now he just has to stop employing these white supremacists

I can tell you the character of a man, by the company that he keeps.

I'm just trying to be hopeful :\

 

[everysingletime]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...rican-economy-in-this-election/?client=safari

Donald Trump lost most of the American economy in this election

The divide is economic, and it is massive. According to the Brookings analysis, the less-than-500 counties that Clinton won nationwide combined to generate 64 percent of America's economic activity in 2015. The more-than-2,600 counties that Trump won combined to generate 36 percent of the country's economic activity last year.

Middle America has too much of a voice. Should give more electoral votes to states that actually help carry the economy.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So the Democrats sake I hope they elect Dean and not Ellison to the DNC chair position.

Ellison is outchea watching about mainly party messaging to appeal voters. Dean is taking about infrastructure to win at every level.

And progressive have to face a harsh reality. You need big money donors in the short run.

 

[EddieDoyers]

So the Democrats sake i hope they elect Dean and not Ellison to the DNC chair position.

Ellison is outchea watching about mainly party messaging to appeal voters. Dean is taking about infrastructure to win at every level.

And progressive have to face a harsh reality. You need big money donors in the short run.

Howard Dean for DNC chair

 

[RustyShackleford]

Some progressive pundits hustling backwards just worrying about messaging for the Presidency.

They need to start flipping State Houses, defending the Senate from a Super Majority, and taking back more seats in the House.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Trump on his businesses/conflict question's: "The law's totally on my side, the president can't have a conflict of interest."

Banana republic.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Trump on his businesses/conflict question's: "The law's totally on my side, the president can't have a conflict of interest."

Banana republic.

This guy on some Kanye West type of delusion

 

[gordyloc]

Two of the GOATs. Barack and Vin.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

This guy on some Kanye West type of delusion

I mean he's right, as I understand it there are not many laws preventing the president being a complete crook.


what usually stops the president from being a crook, is social norms enforced via public shame.



but we already know Donald is immune to public shame.





goodnight and goodluck man.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trump gonna rob America so much, that even Brazilians gonna be shaking their heads at us.

 

[biggie62]

Trump gonna rob America so much, that even Brazilians gonna be shaking their head at us.

and at the same time.

 

[gry60]

This guy on some Kanye West type of delusion

I mean he's right, as I understand it there are not many laws preventing the president being a complete crook.


what usually stops the president from being a crook, is social norms enforced via public shame.



but we already know Donald is immune to public shame.





goodnight and goodluck man.

You're enjoying this a lil too much.

 

[EddieDoyers]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-flip-flops-6-times-in-1-hour-nyt-interview-203417722.html

 

[RustyShackleford]

This guy on some Kanye West type of delusion

I mean he's right, as I understand it there are not many laws preventing the president being a complete crook.


what usually stops the president from being a crook, is social norms enforced via public shame.



but we already know Donald is immune to public shame.





goodnight and goodluck man.

You're enjoying this a lil too much.

He is relatively safe in the Maple Tower. He don't care

 

[AEA18]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Kareem always comes down to St. Lucia for the Jazz Festival often.

Ole head always want to take the Sky Hook pic with him, just like Bams was doing

 

[whywesteppin]

Obama looking like a munchkin next to Kareem