Whites Believe They Are Victims of Racism More Often Than Blacks

Two things I don't get. One post that has the possibility of implying the "N word" and he's automatically racist. Even though you walk around every day either saying or listening while your friends say it. But they aren't racists?


And two, why do people keep saying they aren't going to take part in a race thread, but then post in a race thread?
 
this thread has potential. survey was trash though.


I can't remember what I was watching or listening to but I guy was basically saying white ppl have been so jaded and deluded by the issue of race and racism that they continue to deny it's existence and ignore it when it occurs to the point the only racism they do acknowledge is "reverse racism" w/e that is.

It's funny cuz I still remember the clowns on this site talking about white privilege doesn't exist and black ppl shouldn't have affirmative action.

:lol: @ this survey. Call me when whites are being hunted down and hung from trees, denied basic rights, and treated like property.

you know this actually happened to white people and other races, right?


what the hell is reverse racism? I've heard so many definitions and each one is stupid.
We're not talking about other races though, that's completely irrelevant.

As for this happening to white ppl I forgot to add "call me when that happens to them for being white" not just it happening to them for other reasons and I don't think I'd have to add "in America" but I'm not quite sure what you're even about to reference regarding this thread topic. You know since this is a thread about white ppl claiming to be victims of racism more than black ppl.

you really think people don't kill/attack/degrade people for being white?


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Never said that and the "next best thing you did" was simply say this has happened to white ppl and other races. I never said anything about other races and I was specifically talking about white ppl. Can't really call that the "next best thing"

Sir Charles actually did bring up actual events where things I asked for actually happened.
No offense, but yes you should be more specific if you don't want someone to point out things in your statements. you yourself said call me when it happens, and I did the next best thing I could.
What exactly did you point out in response to what I said? All you said was this happens to white ppl and ppl of other races. Half of the statement is irrelevant or are you really trying to say I was implying that has only happened to black ppl? Like you don't know what I'm talking about. How specific does one need to be for you to not assume?
this thread has potential. survey was trash though.



you know this actually happened to white people and other races, right?



what the hell is reverse racism? I've heard so many definitions and each one is stupid.
We're not talking about other races though, that's completely irrelevant.


As for this happening to white ppl I forgot to add "call me when that happens to them for being white" not just it happening to them for other reasons and I don't think I'd have to add "in America" but I'm not quite sure what you're even about to reference regarding this thread topic. You know since this is a thread about white ppl claiming to be victims of racism more than black ppl.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Upset about a racial name-calling that occurred earlier that night, several black men savagely beat a random white man who had had nothing to do with the incident. He slipped away from his attackers, but they forced him to swim into a lake to escape. He drowned. The three men were sentenced to less than a year in jail.

Massachusetts. Four black men decided to murder the next white person they saw. That unlucky soul was a college student from Boston, whom the men stabbed to death.

Indiana. A black man was arrested for killing seven white people with a shotgun. He explained that he murdered his victims due to his deep-rooted hatred of white people.

Miami, Florida. The leader of a black supremacist sect was convicted of the murders of several white people. He ordered his followers to kill any and all white devils.They killed at least seven white people, bringing back body parts to their leader.

North Carolina. Seven black men kidnapped a white woman, raped her, put her in a tub of bleach, shot her five times, and dumped her body. The murderers said they did this for racial reasons.

North Carolina. Four black teenagers lured a white, ten-year-old girl into an empty house. There, they sodomized her, strangled her with a cable wire, and beat her to death with a board. In the past few weeks, the trials in the Tiffany Long case have received extensive coverage in the North Carolina press. But with two of the three defendants already sentenced to lifelong prison terms, and the third now standing trial, the national media have all but ignored the story. Only the Associated Press has reported on the trials, in a single, cursory piece. The AP, of course, failed to mention the race of the people involved — an oversight it seldom if ever committed in the case of Amadou Diallo.

It happens to everyone. That was pulled off of a long list.
Horrible cases. No excuses.

I do wonder if one thing didn't happen if these would have though. Causality.
 
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OP you have any issues on the small sample size and drawing conclusions off it?
 
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I think I'm gonna just sit this one out.

I'm never going back to the south :smh:

White WHITE people are really racist there. I hate them. I hate those people.

BUT I don't hate ALL white people.

I hate some asians and some indians .. but just because of how they are.

I don't know their names so I describe them as "trait race gender" "tall white guy

Does that make me racist? Did that make sense? I hope so.
 
I think I'm gonna just sit this one out.
I don't know their names so I describe them as "trait race gender" "tall white guy

Does that make me racist? Did that make sense? I hope so.
Don't fight racism with racism. The way you say your term to describe them comes off as discriminatory, but at the same time doesn't. Not sure, depends on what you perceive as racisim.
 
The only people capable of sustaining the fantasy of a "post-racial" society tend to live in privileged bubbles.  

In the rare event that they "can't" do something or find themselves in the minority, they may externalize the blame.  (It's "racist" that they can't use racial slurs freely, adopting the Fox News "White America is under siege" bunker mentality, etc. etc. etc.)  

It's the difference between EXPECTING society to be racist on the whole and finding oneself shocked when race is "suddenly" salient.  
I don't know their names so I describe them as "trait race gender" "tall white guy

Does that make me racist? Did that make sense? I hope so.
Don't fight racism with racism. The way you say your term to describe them comes off as discriminatory, but at the same time doesn't. Not sure, depends on what you perceive as racisim.
Don't fight racism with racism, eh?

Is that why you were one of the few people who gave a hearty "thumbs up" to this post?  http://niketalk.com/t/529342/i-got-fired-for-using-racial-insults-to-the-customers

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Welp.


Dat ether.

But water repped because he understood where the OP in that thread was coming from, he wasn't condoning fighting racism with racism. I can understand why he gave the rep to the OP.

I don't think you're racist OP. I've had a similar experience, but not to the point to where I got fired or expelled.

Its just ignorance that people have these days that causes you to want to fight back. Then eventually, it all builds up and you let loose.

Repped OP. I know where you're coming from.


15 other people repped the OP as well, why single out WATER? People learn from their mistakes.
 
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I dont understand why 15 people repped the OP in that thread. What he did was not cool at all
 
Please, explain further what you mean by that.

on one hand you're saying the survey used too small of a sample size to hold any merit, but at the same time what you've said in this thread makes it seem like you believe white people have become the target for racism in the present US, which would support the results of the survey. i could just be assuming too much though

yes, you are assuming too much. I'm not sure where it seems like I said white people have become THE target for racism.

I referenced other races facing atrocities. I referenced other races (I used white and other races as an example) of people who are targeted for skin color.

Then I asked why location matters in this conversation.

This is why I rarely take racism threads and posts on here seriously and I'm in here playing Devil's Advocate. it's like some of you LOOK for things to call racist. I bet you're assuming I'm white too, aren't you?


this thread has potential. survey was trash though.


I can't remember what I was watching or listening to but I guy was basically saying white ppl have been so jaded and deluded by the issue of race and racism that they continue to deny it's existence and ignore it when it occurs to the point the only racism they do acknowledge is "reverse racism" w/e that is.

It's funny cuz I still remember the clowns on this site talking about white privilege doesn't exist and black ppl shouldn't have affirmative action.

:lol: @ this survey. Call me when whites are being hunted down and hung from trees, denied basic rights, and treated like property.

you know this actually happened to white people and other races, right?


what the hell is reverse racism? I've heard so many definitions and each one is stupid.
We're not talking about other races though, that's completely irrelevant.

As for this happening to white ppl I forgot to add "call me when that happens to them for being white" not just it happening to them for other reasons and I don't think I'd have to add "in America" but I'm not quite sure what you're even about to reference regarding this thread topic. You know since this is a thread about white ppl claiming to be victims of racism more than black ppl.

you really think people don't kill/attack/degrade people for being white?
Never said that and the "next best thing you did" was simply say this has happened to white ppl and other races. I never said anything about other races and I was specifically talking about white ppl. Can't really call that the "next best thing"

Sir Charles actually did bring up actual events where things I asked for actually happened.
No offense, but yes you should be more specific if you don't want someone to point out things in your statements. you yourself said call me when it happens, and I did the next best thing I could.
What exactly did you point out in response to what I said? All you said was this happens to white ppl and ppl of other races. Half of the statement is irrelevant or are you really trying to say I was implying that has only happened to black ppl? Like you don't know what I'm talking about. How specific does one need to be for you to not assume?


Yes, you never expressly said that. what you said was "call me when it happens to white people *goes back to edit* because they're white" which obviously implies you either don't believe that it happens, didn't know it happened, or didn't think it was documented.

The "next best thing" I can do to someone who says on the internet "call me when....", knowing I do not have their number, knowing I'm on a public forum where I can just click reply............... was type then click reply. what else do you want me to do? do you want me to go find examples and paste links next time? or can I just simply ask a question like I did in the first place to see if you REALLY believe and mean what you type?

I won't have to ask the question if you're more clear with your statements. I don't want to assume anything but your statement made it far too easy. if I'm wrong, I apologize, but that's how it looked to me.


The only people capable of sustaining the fantasy of a "post-racial" society tend to live in privileged bubbles.  

In the rare event that they "can't" do something or find themselves in the minority, they may externalize the blame.  (It's "racist" that they can't use racial slurs freely, adopting the Fox News "White America is under siege" bunker mentality, etc. etc. etc.)  

It's the difference between EXPECTING society to be racist on the whole and finding oneself shocked when race is "suddenly" salient.  

I don't know their names so I describe them as "trait race gender" "tall white guy



Does that make me racist? Did that make sense? I hope so.
Don't fight racism with racism. The way you say your term to describe them comes off as discriminatory, but at the same time doesn't. Not sure, depends on what you perceive as racisim.
Don't fight racism with racism, eh?

Is that why you were one of the few people who gave a hearty "thumbs up" to this post?  http://niketalk.com/t/529342/i-got-fired-for-using-racial-insults-to-the-customers

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Meth just out here exposing who reps people now. all right.
 
:rolleyes @ the populace of Medford Mass.

"It's a pretty surprising finding when you think of the wide range of disparities that still exist in society, most of which show black Americans with worse outcomes than whites in areas such as income, home ownership, health and employment,"

Exhibit A.
Case closed.
 
this is terrible and seriously offensive and a slap in the face to those who fought their whole lives to just be treated equally.

i dont remember a period in our history where white folks were hunted down, not allowed to do certain things and were hated by the whole southern United States. 
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 the worst these people have experienced was probably name calling, this seems like another article that wants to freak white folks out, and its only making them hate minorities more.

since obama was elected there have been increases in gun sales and spikes in people joining hate groups and all white militias, but thats ok.
 
OP you have any issues on the small sample size and drawing conclusions off it?

the thing is, I'm not coming to this conclusion based on just this article, this mentality is something I've been noticing for a while. It's like the white guy on YouTube always making videos about the plight of white South Africans since the end of apartheid, ignoring the fact that if you weren't white you were a second class citizen in South Africa until 1994
 
this is terrible and seriously offensive and a slap in the face to those who fought their whole lives to just be treated equally.

i dont remember a period in our history where white folks were hunted down, not allowed to do certain things and were hated by the whole southern United States. 
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We have had plenty of hate on all races in American history.

African - Slavery, Civil rights fight
Asian - Internment camps. Anti immigration
Europeans (3rd generation) - Germans, Irish, British, all discriminated against and labeled to be not as smart as the American-born citizens. Results on the original IQ tests were named for them ( Idiot, moron, cretin would be three examples.)
Middle eastern peoples - Just look at Airport Security and Pamela Geller.


The United States has a history of racial hatred.
 
You have to live in a special type of bubble/privilege to think that somehow you're more likely to be the victim of "racism" when all the statistics show from income, to racial profiling, to getting a loan that that is not the case.
 
this is terrible and seriously offensive and a slap in the face to those who fought their whole lives to just be treated equally.

i dont remember a period in our history where white folks were hunted down, not allowed to do certain things and were hated by the whole southern United States. 
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We have had plenty of hate on all races in American history.

African - Slavery, Civil rights fight
Asian - Internment camps. Anti immigration
Europeans (3rd generation) - Germans, Irish, British, all discriminated against and labeled to be not as smart as the American-born citizens. Results on the original IQ tests were named for them ( Idiot, moron, cretin would be three examples.)
Middle eastern peoples - Just look at Airport Security and Pamela Geller.


The United States has a history of racial hatred.

let us not forget the enslavement, robbery, and holocaust of the Native people.

dudes overlook all this though. people of all races have that "my people, my people, my people" thing going on. I've always just accepted every person and "race" for who they are, and that is a human being just like me. the sooner we as a whole can get past political differences, religion, and something so damn basic as skin color, we can really progress.

until then we will continue to suffer from division and continue to be owned by the guys that exploit division oh so well.
 
The thing with most white people is that they think racism doesn't exist until they're called a name, then they try to call it racist just to exclude the word from their race. I used to post on the bodybuilding forums and a lot of the white dudes over there used to say racist things but when a black dude comes in the thread and says something like "shut up white boy" they say claim racism or "reverse racism".

I've met racist people from all races, Black, White and Asian but i think a lot of white people are delusion when it comes to racism. They think racism is just an excuse that black people use when they're being lazy or something.

Another thing i've noticed is how when ever you bring up history and how bad it was back in the days they'll try to change the subject and tell you to get over it.
 
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Exactly, these race threads with wrong information need to end.


this is terrible and seriously offensive and a slap in the face to those who fought their whole lives to just be treated equally.

i dont remember a period in our history where white folks were hunted down, not allowed to do certain things and were hated by the whole southern United States. 
mean.gif

The United States has a history of racial hatred.

let us not forget the enslavement, robbery, and holocaust of the Native people.

dudes overlook all this though. people of all races have that "my people, my people, my people" thing going on. I've always just accepted every person and "race" for who they are, and that is a human being just like me. the sooner we as a whole can get past political differences, religion, and something so damn basic as skin color, we can really progress.

until then we will continue to suffer from division and continue to be owned by the guys that exploit division oh so well.

Finally, someone who gets it.

NT is quick to call anybody a racist, over the smallest reasons. Yet they want to say African Americans are the only people discriminated against on a large scale? Shame.

This is just the USA, if you looked through out history. Welp,
 
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The thing with most white people is that they think racism doesn't exist until they're called a name, then they try to call it racist just to exclude the word from their race. I used to post on the bodybuilding forums and a lot of the white dudes over there used to say racist things but when a black dude comes in the thread and says something like "shut up white boy" they say claim racism or "reverse racism".

I've met racist people from all races, Black, White and Asian but i think a lot of white people are delusion when it comes to racism. They think racism is just an excuse that black people use when they're being lazy or something.

Another thing i've noticed is how when ever you bring up history and how bad it was back in the days they'll try to change the subject and tell you to get over it.

Some of them live in delusion because they're not culturally astute and they've never had to be. For the most part white people run this country, therefore in most situations, unless you look like a degenerate, if "you're white you're alright". If all of your life you've never experienced discrimination or "real" racism, the first time somebody of a different color calls you "white boy" you assume, "hey...this must be that racism stuff minorities talk about" and proceed to scream "racist", without any concrete knowledge or experience in what racism and discrimination truly feels like.

Because of such, I don't hold anything against those white people who live in their "delusion". I accept it for what it is and realize they don't understand because they don't have those experiences, which is fine, it's not their fault. However, the people that do irk me are the ones who feel as if they DO know something when they don't, and therefore not only live in their delusion, but are deadset on pushing their delusional thoughts onto you and chastise you for attempting to explain to them how it really is.

For those white people who DO have a firm grasp on racism and discrimination in this country, I applaud and salute you, because you've educated yourself on something you really didn't HAVE to know. You could've very well lived in the delusion others live in and it's unlikely your life would've truly been affected in a major way.
 
this thread has potential. survey was trash though.


I can't remember what I was watching or listening to but I guy was basically saying white ppl have been so jaded and deluded by the issue of race and racism that they continue to deny it's existence and ignore it when it occurs to the point the only racism they do acknowledge is "reverse racism" w/e that is.

It's funny cuz I still remember the clowns on this site talking about white privilege doesn't exist and black ppl shouldn't have affirmative action.

:lol: @ this survey. Call me when whites are being hunted down and hung from trees, denied basic rights, and treated like property.

you know this actually happened to white people and other races, right?


what the hell is reverse racism? I've heard so many definitions and each one is stupid.
We're not talking about other races though, that's completely irrelevant.

As for this happening to white ppl I forgot to add "call me when that happens to them for being white" not just it happening to them for other reasons and I don't think I'd have to add "in America" but I'm not quite sure what you're even about to reference regarding this thread topic. You know since this is a thread about white ppl claiming to be victims of racism more than black ppl.

you really think people don't kill/attack/degrade people for being white?
Never said that and the "next best thing you did" was simply say this has happened to white ppl and other races. I never said anything about other races and I was specifically talking about white ppl. Can't really call that the "next best thing"

Sir Charles actually did bring up actual events where things I asked for actually happened.
No offense, but yes you should be more specific if you don't want someone to point out things in your statements. you yourself said call me when it happens, and I did the next best thing I could.
What exactly did you point out in response to what I said? All you said was this happens to white ppl and ppl of other races. Half of the statement is irrelevant or are you really trying to say I was implying that has only happened to black ppl? Like you don't know what I'm talking about. How specific does one need to be for you to not assume?


Yes, you never expressly said that. what you said was "call me when it happens to white people *goes back to edit* because they're white" which obviously implies you either don't believe that it happens, didn't know it happened, or didn't think it was documented.

The "next best thing" I can do to someone who says on the internet "call me when....", knowing I do not have their number, knowing I'm on a public forum where I can just click reply............... was type then click reply. what else do you want me to do? do you want me to go find examples and paste links next time? or can I just simply ask a question like I did in the first place to see if you REALLY believe and mean what you type?

I won't have to ask the question if you're more clear with your statements. I don't want to assume anything but your statement made it far too easy. if I'm wrong, I apologize, but that's how it looked to me.
You didn't say anything of worth in response to my post so how could it be the "next best thing" How is saying it happens to white ppl and other races the next best thing if you actually read my entire post? This is where you're losing me cuz even before I add anything your reply isn't what you claim it is. I'm sorry you weren't able infer anything from my post or from what was in the OP that led to my post so you'd be better equipped to actually reply to my post adequately.
 
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