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jesusshuttlesworth34 How long should a background check take for federal government agencies? I'll be contracted out for a project with DOC so I submitted additional I-9, fingerprint cards, and other employment forms for screening. This was about a month ago and I still haven't gotten any progress after a couple emails requesting status. There is no security clearance needed for the position either.
What kind of background check are they doing?
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i had a contracting company hit me last week for an opening with State...
they asked if i was or had a prior clearance and i said no (posting said obtainable)...i was told i was ineligible for that specific job because it required someone who had been through the clearance process before, and that an interim clearance wouldnt work...
i was told that a full secret would take 3 months and they needed to fill the spot asap...oh well
they asked if i was or had a prior clearance and i said no (posting said obtainable)...i was told i was ineligible for that specific job because it required someone who had been through the clearance process before, and that an interim clearance wouldnt work...
i was told that a full secret would take 3 months and they needed to fill the spot asap...oh well
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Not sure. I'm guessing whatever standard federal check they do for employment.
What kind of background check are they doing?
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Not sure. I'm guessing whatever standard federal check they do for employment.
What kind of background check are they doing?
They have different ones, Secret, Top Secret ,Public Trust and ect.
Secret can take 3 months.
Top Secret a year.
Public Trust 6 months to a year.
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There's no security clearance needed for this position. I stated that in the original post.Not sure. I'm guessing whatever standard federal check they do for employment.
What kind of background check are they doing?
They have different ones, Secret, Top Secret ,Public Trust and ect.
Secret can take 3 months.
Top Secret a year.
Public Trust 6 months to a year.
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I'm active duty military and I'm considering getting out in a few years. I'm an Officer in the Navy and I'm currently stationed with a lot of DOD civilians and tbh a lot of them make me sick. Many of them have worked in this same office for 30+ years and they're beyond lazy. Don't get me wrong some of them work really hard but most of them are lazy and uninspired because they know they're not gonna get fired. We have this dude whose what they call an "over hire." He didn't get a GS job even though he met the minimum requirements, he sued and won and now he's a GS-11 who essentially can't get fired. He pretty much twiddles his thumbs all day. It's funny because many of these guys were former military. Where did their drive to succeed and progress go?I'm the evaluation rater for some of these DoD civilians and I want to give them bad marks but I know it won't matter.
Before I got here I wanted a GS job when I got out but not I don't know. Maybe its the military in me but I couldn't imagine doing the same job for 20+ years. I'm too used to switching roles and learning new things. Not to mention I'd have to come in as a GS-13 to get anywhere near comparable pay.
I'm still open to a gov't job but it would have to have competitive pay ($85k+ starting) and offer room for upward mobility. I already have my degree and a secret clearance.
Before I got here I wanted a GS job when I got out but not I don't know. Maybe its the military in me but I couldn't imagine doing the same job for 20+ years. I'm too used to switching roles and learning new things. Not to mention I'd have to come in as a GS-13 to get anywhere near comparable pay.
I'm still open to a gov't job but it would have to have competitive pay ($85k+ starting) and offer room for upward mobility. I already have my degree and a secret clearance.
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Supply officer?
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Yeah. You know me?
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SUPO'S are about the only sailors that work closely with Navy Civilians. Where are you stationed? Somewhere in the Carolina's!
If, your outside the DC area the folks in your office are just riding the clock to retirement.
I'm a Army civilian in DC, but prior Navy (Aviation & Seabee). I work with Army officers and we get flack in our office from the soldiers. They don't understand that GSer's aren't military.
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Lol like I said govt work is the easy route. Just chill do nothing for 30 years then retire.
You can't get fired, so whats the worst that can happen if you do nothing?
There was a guy that was probably 75 on an oxygen tank and everything that just slept at his desk all day
they couldn't fire him. They eventually talked him into retiring
My bro keeps telling me to go work for intel agencies, but I'm just not interested in that life yet. I'll be a govt contractor as long as I can.
You can't get fired, so whats the worst that can happen if you do nothing?
There was a guy that was probably 75 on an oxygen tank and everything that just slept at his desk all day
they couldn't fire him. They eventually talked him into retiring
My bro keeps telling me to go work for intel agencies, but I'm just not interested in that life yet. I'll be a govt contractor as long as I can.
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Lol like I said govt work is the easy route. Just chill do nothing for 30 years then retire.
You can't get fired, so whats the worst that can happen if you do nothing?
There was a guy that was probably 75 on an oxygen tank and everything that just slept at his desk all day
they couldn't fire him. They eventually talked him into retiring
My bro keeps telling me to go work for intel agencies, but I'm just not interested in that life yet. I'll be a govt contractor as long as I can.
From my experience it's hard to get fired if your in the DOD. Outside the DOD, they are quick start paperwork. Inside the DOD most people don't even know how to start paper because they don't fire in the military.
A O-5 (supervisor) in my office got into it with an GS-13 and wanted to get the GS-13 on papers but had no idea how.
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Lol like I said govt work is the easy route. Just chill do nothing for 30 years then retire.
You can't get fired, so whats the worst that can happen if you do nothing?
There was a guy that was probably 75 on an oxygen tank and everything that just slept at his desk all day
they couldn't fire him. They eventually talked him into retiring
My bro keeps telling me to go work for intel agencies, but I'm just not interested in that life yet. I'll be a govt contractor as long as I can.
Man, i'm not sure I can do gov't then. With so much opportunity in the DC area, I gotta try it.
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Too much opportunity out here, you go govt when you ready to chill. When your trying to EAT and stack up
go with the govt contractor companys or any other company out here. I think just about every company has
a location out here, even Google.
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Intern Programs are the best way to begin one's Federal Career. You get massive amounts of training, GS level up each year (first 2-3 years depending on job), and tons of dirty looks from the lazy/older/non-degree holding/I'm just doing my time folks.
I'll warn most: If you are creative, hard working, ambitious, energetic, dedicated, determined, etc. more than likely...The Fed Gov/DOD/Agency life is not for you. Unless you love good insurance and "job security" or have a family and just want to blend in.
Get in...get trained/learn something or how to use it to your advantage...and bounce.
This is the exact reason I turned down my AF PAQ offer. Govt is for chilling if I'm still working corporate 15 years from now. It's the safe, easy route, and recent grads are severely underpaid compared to industry. With the AF PAQ program even at a GS 12 by the age of 26 I would have been making less than I started at with a govt contractor company at the age of 22.
If I ever go back to the government I'm not taking less than GS 14. I'm currently trying to land this overseas position within my company. I'd like to work overseas for 10 years , 5 years danger zone then 5 years in Tokyo.
Gov contractor stability is not always there, but the money certainly is. I think about pursuing that for a couple years but scared i wouldnt be able to get back in.
GS 14? lol, only retired Col/Gen get those without being in the GS system. (not hating) but do you have an example of someone doing that?
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Met plenty of intel employees that worked 10-15yrs as govt contractors then started as GS-14. Don't know what area you are in but in the DC area it happens. How else are they gonna pay them a somewhat comparable salary ? Reason why I am saying GS-14 is because I had a position where I would have been a guaranteed GS-12 after 4 years, so why would I take anything less than a GS-14 after 15 years of experience + Masters ?Gov contractor stability is not always there, but the money certainly is. I think about pursuing that for a couple years but scared i wouldnt be able to get back in.
GS 14? lol, only retired Col/Gen get those without being in the GS system. (not hating) but do you have an example of someone doing that?
I'm not talking 1099 , I'm talking about working for companies like Booz, Northrop, Boeing, Lockheed, etc . The stability is there most of my coworkers on my team have worked for a govt contractor for 15yrs at one point in their career. If a program gets dropped most companies place you on another contract.
My coworker on my team that is a recent grad too program got dropped 3 months into employment, he was on overhead until they put him on my team about a month later. The rest of the people on his team all were placed on different programs as well.
Even my dad has worked for TASC for 15 years, never been laid off.
If you have the most desirable clearance in the DC area, you don't have much to worry about.
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Gov contractor stability is not always there, but the money certainly is. I think about pursuing that for a couple years but scared i wouldnt be able to get back in.
GS 14? lol, only retired Col/Gen get those without being in the GS system. (not hating) but do you have an example of someone doing that?
Met plenty of intel employees that worked 10-15yrs as govt contractors then started as GS-14. Don't know what area you are in but in the DC area it happens. How else are they gonna pay them a somewhat comparable salary ? Reason why I am saying GS-14 is because I had a position where I would have been a guaranteed GS-12 after 4 years, so why would I take anything less than a GS-14 after 15 years of experience + Masters ?
I'm not talking 1099 , I'm talking about working for companies like Booz, Northrop, Boeing, Lockheed, etc . The stability is there most of my coworkers on my team have worked for a govt contractor for 15yrs at one point in their career. If a program gets dropped most companies place you on another contract.
My coworker on my team that is a recent grad too program got dropped 3 months into employment, he was on overhead until they put him on my team about a month later. The rest of the people on his team all were placed on different programs as well.
Even my dad has worked for TASC for 15 years, never been laid off.
If you have the most desirable clearance in the DC area, you don't have much to worry about.
i think i use my own experience and area and think that is how it works everywhere...why i wouldnt see/think it that way. (my own ignorance)
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Intern Programs are the best way to begin one's Federal Career. You get massive amounts of training, GS level up each year (first 2-3 years depending on job), and tons of dirty looks from the lazy/older/non-degree holding/I'm just doing my time folks.
I'll warn most: If you are creative, hard working, ambitious, energetic, dedicated, determined, etc. more than likely...The Fed Gov/DOD/Agency life is not for you. Unless you love good insurance and "job security" or have a family and just want to blend in.
Get in...get trained/learn something or how to use it to your advantage...and bounce.
This is the exact reason I turned down my AF PAQ offer. Govt is for chilling if I'm still working corporate 15 years from now. It's the safe, easy route, and recent grads are severely underpaid compared to industry. With the AF PAQ program even at a GS 12 by the age of 26 I would have been making less than I started at with a govt contractor company at the age of 22.
If I ever go back to the government I'm not taking less than GS 14. I'm currently trying to land this overseas position within my company. I'd like to work overseas for 10 years , 5 years danger zone then 5 years in Tokyo.
Gov contractor stability is not always there, but the money certainly is. I think about pursuing that for a couple years but scared i wouldnt be able to get back in.
GS 14? lol, only retired Col/Gen get those without being in the GS system. (not hating) but do you have an example of someone doing that?
I'm a Contract Specialist in DOD and I hire contractors. Most service contracts are 5 years (base plus 5). Every year after the first year the government has the option to extend. I have seen instances where someone in the government get into with a person with a contractor and they decide not to extend and the contractors are on the street. You have the right of first refusal. I have seen instances where the govt will wait year before they say the service is a need again. If your company is big enough they may just place you elsewhere.
The money is good contracting with the govt but your job is on the line every September or when the period of performance ends.
If the political atmosphere changes your job could be in danger.
Funding changes your job could be in danger.
A directive can come down and essentially put you out of a job. We lost 8 contractors because a new directive said contractors were not allowed to perform particular tasks.
We brought on one of the contractors as a GS and she was so happy to know she had job security instead even-though she made a little less. September was stressful in house.
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Nah They gonna kill or lock up the rest of the homeless soon, only the rich will be able to afford to live here. It will become a city full of hipsters and yuppie transplants.
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I applied for a position a while back that was TS. Filled out that long *** form. Never heard about the result of the background check for the clearance. Is there a way to get that information?
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Haha I thought you knew me. I got scared for a minute
I'm still open to government employment, maybe this group of civilians are giving me a bad view of it. I'm in the Bay Area working at an Army base doing Operations. Any advice for those transitioning? Do many junior officers make the transition to government/contractor work or is it mainly senior people who did 20+ years? I'm at this duty station for another 2+ years but I'm looking to get out afterwards. I'm not adverse to moving to DC at all, I love it there. I'm just afraid of taking a big pay cut crossing over. Currently I'm making $8k/month (before taxes) when you include salary+bah+conus cola+bas and I don't want to take a job paying me $20k less.
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@ATLsFinest You shouldn't take a paycut crossing over most get raises switching for govt to govt contracting.
You take a paycut when you go from govt contractor to govt.
@thenewjs23 You can't even compare any other part of the US to the DC area when it comes to govt presence.
You really have to live here/be from here to know what I'm talking about.
I can tell you the same story for govt workers when the sequestration happened .My roomate was crying at work because she wasnt getting paid and was behind on rent. With govt cuts nowadays nothing is 100% guaranteed. State Dept recently RIF'd employees and downsized some organizations.
Best to always have some emergency funds stashed. No matter which route you choose.
You take a paycut when you go from govt contractor to govt.
@thenewjs23 You can't even compare any other part of the US to the DC area when it comes to govt presence.
You really have to live here/be from here to know what I'm talking about.
I can tell you the same story for govt workers when the sequestration happened .My roomate was crying at work because she wasnt getting paid and was behind on rent. With govt cuts nowadays nothing is 100% guaranteed. State Dept recently RIF'd employees and downsized some organizations.
Best to always have some emergency funds stashed. No matter which route you choose.
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I hope you're right, I have a certain lifestyle I'm tryna maintain. Are there any particular contractors that might value a logistics skillset? how should I separate myself from other applicants? is there anything I can do to prep for the transition while I'm still on active duty?
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I live in dc