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The backlash he's been receiving is large and petitions for him to pull out and all that are out there, I don't see anything wrong with him essentially saying, "Now, hold on. Give me a second to process this." Continuing to be silent would probably only have hurt him more. It was probably a "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" situation anyway since people are never satisfied.
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post #62 of 88
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More qualified than Jesse Ventura? Take your stanism elsewhere.

And Jesse's Ventura's Qualifications far exceed Jay-Z's is what your saying?

Let's be serious here. Jesse Ventura was in the Navy and Vietnam war, after the war he wrestled in what is currently known as the WWE for 12 years.

Maybe that is a great resume for a Governor of Minnesota mean.gifmean.gif
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post #63 of 88
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post #64 of 88
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More qualified than Jesse Ventura? Take your stanism elsewhere.

And Jesse's Ventura's Qualifications far exceed Jay-Z's is what your saying?

Let's be serious here. Jesse Ventura was in the Navy and Vietnam war, after the war he wrestled in what is currently known as the WWE for 12 years.

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You forgot the part where he was a mayor of a city in Minnesota. You sound ridiculous.
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post #65 of 88
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Interesting that Hov is going to move forward with the launch. Based on what he presented, I feel that he should proceed with the launch as well.
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post #66 of 88
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Interesting that Hov is going to move forward with the launch. Based on what he presented, I feel that he should proceed with the launch as well.

When has Jay-z stood up for anything other than

His bank account? laugh.gif @some of ya expecting some

Sort of political stance from a cat that hasnt made

1 ever on wax, why ya expect one in real life?

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post #67 of 88

Jay-z is the most hated man in the black community. It really sickens me.

 

 

A. He gives millions to charities every year

 

B. He gives practical real world advice to black youths (make money, pay your lawyers, move out of the hood)

 

C. He speaks on social issues in his own way (constantly tlaking about how the projects were temporary and how we need to do more than sports and entertanment)

 

But because my man don't have a Kufi or overtly stand on some political platform, he gets no respect from the black community

 

Ya'll criticize Al Sharpton for trying to hard to represent the black community in a way he not everyone approves of, yet Scorn Jay-z because he does his peace for the hood and stays out the spotlight

 

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Jay-Z this, Jay-Z that (Jay-Z won't hold my hand no more)
Jay-Z this, Jay-Z that
Jay-Z that, Jay-Z this (Jay-Z won't give me no money)
Get off Jay-Z **** What y'all ****** get front page articles, y'all mention Jay-Z name
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post #68 of 88
*Hating initiated*
Too little too late
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Dame was the one who wanted to put him on
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Took 3 years to take a jab at the broad street bully
Plus he waited till he was locked up
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post #69 of 88
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Nas won.

This.
post #70 of 88
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This.

 

:hat

 

Jay sold out big time...

 

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post #71 of 88
Serious question: what does it mean to sell out?

Personally, never understood what it mean.
post #72 of 88
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Serious question: what does it mean to sell out?

Personally, never understood what it mean.

 

A sell out is this...

 

Jay Z will not distance himself from Barneys. According to a recent statement, Jay Z revealed that he would continue with the launch of his fashion line at Barneys and will deal with the racial profiling issue.

After two black teens were victims of racial profiling at Barneys, some of Jay Z’s fans called on him to step away from his deal with Barneys to teach the department store a lesson. However, Jay Z believes it’s in his best interest to continue with the partnership.

In turn, Jay Z says he will sit on a council that will “deal the issue of racial profiling.” Jay Z also said that 100 percent of the proceeds received from the items sold will go to the Shawn Carter Foundation. Jay Z’s foundation will also receive an additional 10 percent of all retail sales from Barneys stores across the nation.

The deal seems to be favorable for Jay Z and his foundation, but it does nothing to stop hip-hop fans from labeling him a “sell out” because of his partnership with Barneys.

^ straight sell out man...

 

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Can't rock with this dude at all. 

 

 

 

post #73 of 88
Sheer stupidity. Backing out of the deal is equal to discriminating a race?



Maybe the KKK should set up a fund for the NAACP eyes.gif

Cut the B.S. Barney's isn't the only collaborator available. Valuing money and a donation over respect. mean.gif
post #74 of 88
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Jay-z is the most hated man in the black community. It really sickens me.

 

 

A. He gives millions to charities every year

 

B. He gives practical real world advice to black youths (make money, pay your lawyers, move out of the hood)

 

C. He speaks on social issues in his own way (constantly tlaking about how the projects were temporary and how we need to do more than sports and entertanment)

 

But because my man don't have a Kufi or overtly stand on some political platform, he gets no respect from the black community

 

Ya'll criticize Al Sharpton for trying to hard to represent the black community in a way he not everyone approves of, yet Scorn Jay-z because he does his peace for the hood and stays out the spotlight

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post #75 of 88
Its offical jay z sold

Did anyone really think he was going to drop the Barneys campaign lol

Not shame on Jay Z shame on you for thinking that
post #76 of 88
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Sheer stupidity. Backing out of the deal is equal to discriminating a race?



Maybe the KKK should set up a fund for the NAACP eyes.gif

Cut the B.S. Barney's isn't the only collaborator available. Valuing money and a donation over respect. mean.gif

 

Jay might as well put on the tap shoes and start dancing in front of white folks now...

post #77 of 88
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A sell out is this...

Jay Z will not distance himself from Barneys. According to a recent statement, Jay Z revealed that he would continue with the launch of his fashion line at Barneys and will deal with the racial profiling issue.



After two black teens were victims of racial profiling at Barneys, some of Jay Z’s fans called on him to step away from his deal with Barneys to teach the department store a lesson. However, Jay Z believes it’s in his best interest to continue with the partnership.



In turn, Jay Z says he will sit on a council that will “deal the issue of racial profiling.” Jay Z also said that 100 percent of the proceeds received from the items sold will go to the Shawn Carter Foundation. Jay Z’s foundation will also receive an additional 10 percent of all retail sales from Barneys stores across the nation.



The deal seems to be favorable for Jay Z and his foundation, but it does nothing to stop hip-hop fans from labeling him a “sell out” because of his partnership with Barneys.



^ straight sell out man...

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Can't rock with this dude at all. 



Giving back to the community; sitting on a board to attempt to solve the issue of racial profiling... I don't see it.

Everytime were giving an opportunity to actually do something about an issue we'd rather stand on our soapbox screaming outdated cliches, running from the problem instead of facing it head on...

Negroes hustling backwards.

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post #78 of 88
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Giving back to the community; sitting on a board to attempt to solve the issue of racial profiling... I don't see it.

Everytime were giving an opportunity to actually do something about an issue we'd rather stand on our soapbox screaming outdated cliches, running from the problem instead of facing it head on...

Negroes hustling backwards.

*Kanye Shrugs*

 

 

 

You know what's symbolic of Jay keeping ties with a company like Barney's? 

 

Its bigger than his foundation. 

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post #80 of 88
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You know what's symbolic of Jay keeping ties with a company like Barney's? 

Its bigger than his foundation. 

I do not. Sir. Please enlighten me.
post #81 of 88
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I do not. Sir. Please enlighten me.

 

you're trolling 

post #82 of 88

being a sellout is just an excuse for people that are not willing to do what it takes to be successful. 

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post #83 of 88
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you're trolling 

Dead *** serious. I don't see what you're getting at not do I have a problem with anything Jayz did or a company like Barney's, so long as its an employee and not an official policy.
post #84 of 88
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being a sellout is just an excuse for people that are not willing to do what it takes to be successful. 

You forgot the integrity portion of that assessment sir

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post #85 of 88
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being a sellout is just an excuse for people that are not willing to do what it takes to be successful. 

You forgot the integrity portion of that assessment sir

this is jayz we are talking about, in every song he talks about being rich and being able to sell anything

 

this seems to fall in line with what he has been rapping to us all these years

 

 

the same people blasting him in this thread wouldnt think twice about signing on the dotted line if they were given that much money to "sellout"

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post #86 of 88
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being a sellout is just an excuse for people that are not willing to do what it takes to be successful. 

You forgot the integrity portion of that assessment sir

this is jayz we are talking about, in every song he talks about being rich and being able to sell anything

 

this seems to fall in line with what he has been rapping to us all these years

 

 

the same people blasting him in this thread wouldnt think twice about signing on the dotted line if they were given that much money to "sellout"

I don't disagree with the first part of your statement. I've always had that issue with Jay Z. I'm one of the few that separates rap "lifestyle" from actual rappers as people. Although there are few, there are some that draw the line with certain things. Clearly Mr. Carter isn't one of them. That's my take on it. 

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post #87 of 88
so let me get this straight

selling out = directing 100% of a high end retail company's flagship store's profits during the holiday season toward the empowerment of the people they discriminate against, as well as 10% of all stores nationwide.

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being a sellout is just an excuse for people that are not willing to do what it takes to be successful. 

You forgot the integrity portion of that assessment sir

this is jayz we are talking about, in every song he talks about being rich and being able to sell anything

 

this seems to fall in line with what he has been rapping to us all these years

 

 

the same people blasting him in this thread wouldnt think twice about signing on the dotted line if they were given that much money to "sellout"

I don't disagree with the first part of your statement. I've always had that issue with Jay Z. I'm one of the few that separates rap "lifestyle" from actual rappers as people. Although there are few, there are some that draw the line with certain things. Clearly Mr. Carter isn't one of them. That's my take on it. 

yeah i mean of course there have been times where someone does something really bad to society for money and in that case the term sellout fits but i never understood why some people seem to call every successful person they see a sellout. only way to make it in this world is to adapt, no one is ever going to be successful by never changing in fear of being called a sellout. when they do charity is not enough and when they adopt successful business strategies its why dont they spend the effort giving back to the people. just because someone made it doesnt mean he needs to be giving people handouts left and right

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