I never knew that......

I still think I'm using past wrong sometimes, but oh well. I've looked it up and tried to make sense of it, but it just doesn't register.

Passed vs past.

I embarrassed myself years ago by saying antidote instead of anecdote. :lol: No one said anything, it just got quiet and I felt so dumb that I looked it up and corrected myself. :smh:


:rofl:


No one is perfect.


Does it bother anyone else when someone says they "drunk" something instead of "drank" something? I never correct people, but it's irksome.

Another thing that bothers me is people not knowing basic verbs in past participle form.

Meh.
 
Brolic Scholar said:
I still think I'm using past wrong sometimes, but oh well. I've looked it up and tried to make sense of it, but it just doesn't register.

Passed vs past.
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I'm pretty sure 'passed' is always the past tense of the verb 'pass'

I passed you the spliff. You passed me the remote. We somehow still passed the test the next day :lol:

On the other han, 'past' seems to mostly deal time or location.

You walked past me. I drove past the entrance to the restaurant. **** like that.

I occasionally still struggle with incorporating "whose" into my grammar instead of "who's" (still not sure if "who's" is wrong), and using '' vs. "" (when not dealing with conversations.)
 
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Way too many people that don't know proper grammar. I don't really use it properly on NT or texts but I at least know how it works
 
DZaster said:
Gordonson Gordonson I feel like I haven't seen you post in a long *** time :lol:
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Really? ****, I feel like I post too much :lol:

I've always been more into kicking back and reading NT than posting just to post though, so I seem to always actually post in the same few threads.

You're one of the cats who I can count on to say what I wanted to before I get to a thread as well, so maybe that's why.
 
It always gets back on track.

Obviously something you never knew... BOOM back on track.
 
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Etymology is the study of the origin of words.

Entomology is the study of insects. both words get confused between them
Back to military history because I love it...

-The reason Paris wasn't damaged during WW2 is because once the Nazis came close to invading and bombing the city the French immediately surrendered. Their reasoning behind it was that they believed that Paris was the most beautiful city in the world and they wouldn't want it touched in anyway.

-American soldier John R. Fox died when he deliberately called an artillery strike on himself. He was part of a small party in an Italian village called Sommocolonia. Realizing that German troops were overrunning his party's position, the strike delayed the enemy long enough for other American units to organize a counter attack and regained control of the village. When they found his body he was surrounded by around a hundred germans

150px-JohnRFox.jpg


he received the medal of honor in 1997. He was part of the Black segregated infantry division known as the Buffalo Soldiers

Hasbro made an action figure about him http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4521025
 
KingKoopa said:
Grammar packets?

No, no she didn't.

k-6 was like 20 years ago.

I'll have issues with helping my child out with long division.

Your brain isn't a container, it's a sponge.

From a person who only speaks 1 language :lol: from my understanding English is a pretty complex language.

Not to mention your post is full of grammatical mistakes, just sayin lol.
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Brolic Scholar said:
I embarrassed myself years ago by saying antidote instead of anecdote. :lol: No one said anything, it just got quiet and I felt so dumb that I looked it up and corrected myself. :smh:
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Bruh this reminds me of when my boy mentions going on a cruise and he says he wants to do a all exclusive one instead of saying inclusive :lol: I want to correct him but I just can't, I don't think many people pay attention when he does it.
 
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friscostylez said:
I always wonder whether the grammar police is really annoyed at reading poor grammar or if they just like putting other people down to make themselves feel better
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The latter...
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its probably fitty fitty, sum **** just reall irks people 

like i used to text this one chick who would just text "am" instead of "I am" or "I'm"

its frivolous af but it really got under my skin when she did it
 
Take what you will from it, but being proficient at English is nothing to be proud of if you fancy yourself as the intellectual standard.

Toronto, CANADA –Non-musicians who speak tonal languages may have a better ear for learning musical notes, according to Canadian researchers.

Tonal languages, found mainly in Asia, Africa and South America, have an abundance of high and low pitch patterns as part of speech. In these languages, differences in pitch can alter the meaning of a word. Vietnamese, for example, has eleven different vowel sounds and six different tones. Cantonese also has an intricate six-tone system, while English has no tones.

Researchers at Baycrest Health Sciences’ Rotman Research Institute (RRI) in Toronto have found the strongest evidence yet that speaking a tonal language may improve how the brain hears music. While the findings may boost the egos of tonal language speakers who excel in musicianship, they are exciting neuroscientists for another reason: they represent the first strong evidence that music and language – which share overlapping brain structures – have bi-directional benefits!

The findings are published today in PLOS ONE, an international, peer-reviewed open-access science journal.

The benefits of music training for speech and language are already well documented (showing positive influences on speech perception and recognition, auditory working memory, aspects of verbal intelligence, and awareness of the sound structure of spoken words). The reverse – the benefits of language experience for learning music – has largely been unexplored until now.

Gavin Bidelman
Gavin Bidelman
“For those who speak tonal languages, we believe their brain’s auditory system is already enhanced to allow them to hear musical notes better and detect minute changes in pitch,” said lead investigator Gavin Bidelman, who conducted the research as a post-doctoral fellow at Baycrest’s RRI, supported by a GRAMMY Foundation[emoji]174[/emoji] grant.

“If you pick up an instrument, you may be able to acquire the skills faster to play that instrument because your brain has already built up these auditory perceptual advantages through speaking your native tonal language.”

But Bidelman, now assistant professor with the Institute for Intelligent Systems and School of Communication Science & Disorders at the University of Memphis, was quick to dispel the notion that people who speak tonal languages make better musicians. Musicianship requires much more than the sense of hearing and plenty of English-speaking musical icons will put that quick assumption to rest.

That music and language – two key domains of human cognition – can influence each other offers exciting possibilities for devising new approaches to rehabilitation for people with speech and language deficits, said Bidelman.

“If music and language are so intimately coupled, we may be able to design rehabilitation treatments that use musical training to help individuals improve speech-related functions that have been impaired due to age, aphasia or stroke,” he suggested. Bidelman added that similar benefits might also work in the opposite direction. Musical listening skills could be improved by designing well-crafted speech and language training programs.

The study

Fifty-four healthy adults in their mid-20s were recruited for the study from the University of Toronto and Greater Toronto Area. They were divided into three groups: English-speaking trained musicians (instrumentalists) and Cantonese-speaking and English-speaking non-musicians.

Speaking a tonal language (such as Cantonese) primes the brain for musical trainingWearing headphones in a sound-proof lab, participants were tested on their ability to discriminate complex musical notes. They were assessed on measures of auditory pitch acuity and music perception as well as general cognitive ability such as working memory and fluid intelligence (abstract reasoning, thinking quickly).

While the musicians demonstrated superior performance on all auditory measures, the Cantonese non-musicians showed similar performance to musicians on music and cognitive behavioural tasks, testing 15 to 20 percent higher than that of the English-speaking non-musicians.

Bidelman added that not all tonal languages may offer the music listening benefits seen with the Cantonese speakers in his study. Mandarin, for example, has more “curved” tones and the pitch patterns vary with time – which is different from how pitch occurs in music. Musical pitch resembles “stair step, level pitch patterns” which happen to share similarities with the Cantonese language, he explained.

Bidelman’s research team included Sylvain Moreno, senior scientist with Baycrest’s RRI and lead scientist with the Baycrest Centre for Brain Fitness; and Stefanie Hutka, an RRI graduate student and PhD student in the Department of Psychology, University of Toronto.

The GRAMMY Foundation, which supported the study, works in partnership with its founder The Recording Academy[emoji]174[/emoji] to bring national attention to important issues such as the value and impact of music and arts education.

- See more at: http://www.baycrest.org/research-ne...-primes-the-brain-for-musical-training/#.dpuf
 
hallywoodxo said:
Take what you will from it, but being proficient at English is nothing to be proud of if you fancy yourself as the intellectual standard.

Toronto, CANADA –Non-musicians who speak tonal languages may have a better ear for learning musical notes, according to Canadian researchers.

Tonal languages, found mainly in Asia, Africa and South America, have an abundance of high and low pitch patterns as part of speech. In these languages, differences in pitch can alter the meaning of a word. Vietnamese, for example, has eleven different vowel sounds and six different tones. Cantonese also has an intricate six-tone system, while English has no tones.

Researchers at Baycrest Health Sciences’ Rotman Research Institute (RRI) in Toronto have found the strongest evidence yet that speaking a tonal language may improve how the brain hears music. While the findings may boost the egos of tonal language speakers who excel in musicianship, they are exciting neuroscientists for another reason: they represent the first strong evidence that music and language – which share overlapping brain structures – have bi-directional benefits!

The findings are published today in PLOS ONE, an international, peer-reviewed open-access science journal.

The benefits of music training for speech and language are already well documented (showing positive influences on speech perception and recognition, auditory working memory, aspects of verbal intelligence, and awareness of the sound structure of spoken words). The reverse – the benefits of language experience for learning music – has largely been unexplored until now.

Gavin Bidelman
Gavin Bidelman
“For those who speak tonal languages, we believe their brain’s auditory system is already enhanced to allow them to hear musical notes better and detect minute changes in pitch,” said lead investigator Gavin Bidelman, who conducted the research as a post-doctoral fellow at Baycrest’s RRI, supported by a GRAMMY Foundation[emoji]174[/emoji] grant.

“If you pick up an instrument, you may be able to acquire the skills faster to play that instrument because your brain has already built up these auditory perceptual advantages through speaking your native tonal language.”

But Bidelman, now assistant professor with the Institute for Intelligent Systems and School of Communication Science & Disorders at the University of Memphis, was quick to dispel the notion that people who speak tonal languages make better musicians. Musicianship requires much more than the sense of hearing and plenty of English-speaking musical icons will put that quick assumption to rest.

That music and language – two key domains of human cognition – can influence each other offers exciting possibilities for devising new approaches to rehabilitation for people with speech and language deficits, said Bidelman.

“If music and language are so intimately coupled, we may be able to design rehabilitation treatments that use musical training to help individuals improve speech-related functions that have been impaired due to age, aphasia or stroke,” he suggested. Bidelman added that similar benefits might also work in the opposite direction. Musical listening skills could be improved by designing well-crafted speech and language training programs.

The study

Fifty-four healthy adults in their mid-20s were recruited for the study from the University of Toronto and Greater Toronto Area. They were divided into three groups: English-speaking trained musicians (instrumentalists) and Cantonese-speaking and English-speaking non-musicians.

Speaking a tonal language (such as Cantonese) primes the brain for musical trainingWearing headphones in a sound-proof lab, participants were tested on their ability to discriminate complex musical notes. They were assessed on measures of auditory pitch acuity and music perception as well as general cognitive ability such as working memory and fluid intelligence (abstract reasoning, thinking quickly).

While the musicians demonstrated superior performance on all auditory measures, the Cantonese non-musicians showed similar performance to musicians on music and cognitive behavioural tasks, testing 15 to 20 percent higher than that of the English-speaking non-musicians.

Bidelman added that not all tonal languages may offer the music listening benefits seen with the Cantonese speakers in his study. Mandarin, for example, has more “curved” tones and the pitch patterns vary with time – which is different from how pitch occurs in music. Musical pitch resembles “stair step, level pitch patterns” which happen to share similarities with the Cantonese language, he explained.

Bidelman’s research team included Sylvain Moreno, senior scientist with Baycrest’s RRI and lead scientist with the Baycrest Centre for Brain Fitness; and Stefanie Hutka, an RRI graduate student and PhD student in the Department of Psychology, University of Toronto.

The GRAMMY Foundation, which supported the study, works in partnership with its founder The Recording Academy[emoji]174[/emoji] to bring national attention to important issues such as the value and impact of music and arts education.

- See more at: http://www.baycrest.org/research-ne...-primes-the-brain-for-musical-training/#.dpuf
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My first language is a tonal language :nthat: Kinda makes sense a lot of my family members play instrumentss
 
sooperhooper said:
None of those nationalities are as arrogant as Americans tho, likely.
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Or as stupid. If you look at ancient cultures that spoke tonal languages they tend to have larger craniums because tonal languages increase neuron growth and cause more brain wrinkles.

And if you wanna be super technical English isn't really a language, but rather a script. In order for something to be an "authentic language" it's supposed to represent things indigenous to the culture. IE you don't see wild animals present in Europe that you would see in Africa. Therefore there doesn't exist a dynamic in the collective European psyche to codify something like a lion.


And with out going all conspiracy mode, there's a reason why the English "language" has the most silent sounds in it. The word "light" being a key component.

Hopefully no one took that as a personal jab, but for all the grammar nazi's you're really trying to dress up a plate of feces in the realm of intellectualism.
 
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