How being a Doctor Became the Most Miserable Profession

nawghtyhare said:
beh235 said:
nawghtyhare said:
just read the article

i dont wanna hear this ******* sob story

u notice the article doesnt say how much the average primary care physician makes

talking about its hard for them to make ends meet :rolleyes

i aint never seen or heard of a doctor apply for food stamps or at the local welfare office

to get a damn xray cost a grip if u aint got insurance

im playing the worlds smallest violin for them right now
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It happens. People really don't understand the details of it. Like I said, it depends upon what your specialty is. The longer you stay in school, the more loans you rack up. You make a lot, but you have to pay a lot. Most of the time, the profession is glamorized in our society because of the prestige of the title and the money that some specialists make. US healthcare is such a convoluted beast man, I don't think we'll ever untangle the mess. 
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naw i understand its just man they making it seem like oooooh i have it so bad
man they should be blessed they are in a position to help so many people
**** i thought that was the point of being a doctor
to help people
not complain about ur loans
when u knew damn well it costs a lot to go to college
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seeing a patient for 12 minutes isn't being in position to help them. what kind of medicine is that?

look more at the quality of care rather than volume.
 
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My primary physician is worthless. I wait in the lobby for an hour, see him for 5 minutes, he pretends to care, writes down all the prescriptions I need to take and gives me referrals to specialists. Unbelievable my company pays so much in medical insurance for this crap.
 
UTVOL23 said:
Radiologist
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Damn, you made it. But I think rad was a 4-year res?

I start med school in August, and although I understand the importance of actually enjoying the specialty I end up picking, I can't help but think about my loans and want to aim for the upper-echelon specialties like rad, derm, and anesth.
 
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girlslovewaffles said:
Damn, you made it. But I think rad was a 4-year res?

I start med school in August, and although I understand the importance of actually enjoying the specialty I end up picking, I can't help but think about my loans and want to aim for the upper-echelon specialties like rad, derm, and anesth.
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Rads is intern year plus 4 years plus fellowship which nearly everyone has to do nowadays. So it really totals out to 5 mandatory years with one additional optional years which most all people do in order to be competitive
 
UTVOL23 said:
girlslovewaffles said:
Damn, you made it. But I think rad was a 4-year res?

I start med school in August, and although I understand the importance of actually enjoying the specialty I end up picking, I can't help but think about my loans and want to aim for the upper-echelon specialties like rad, derm, and anesth.
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Rads is intern year plus 4 years plus fellowship which nearly everyone has to do nowadays. So it really totals out to 5 mandatory years with one additional optional years which most all people do in order to be competitive
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Ah, good to know. Thanks for the info.

Where did you end up doing your res? And if you don't mind me asking, what did you score on your step 1?
 
As much money as they make i dont think its that bad of a profession, but i work in the medical, far from a doctor, but this article/editorial breeds a lot of truth. the doctors at my job see at least 18-24 a patients a day and we take in walk-in. its fast-food medical care. the over-referring patient to specialist is the absolute truth these patients are babied but are being disserviced. The doctors are being overworked just for profit and its a bad news.

Sidenote: baddest doctors are dermatologist. dont ask me how.
 
UTVOL23 said:
Lol loving the comments so far
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they keep getting better and better dont they?

im an ER attending, first year out of residency.
its really sad that people outside of medicine just dont get it and they never will. im glad this article was put out there but im sure there will just be a ton of backlash as weve already seen.

just the other day i had mentioned to some friends how hard it is now to have to pay back my loans, then on top of that im getting taxed more than ever... basically they said "cry me a river" lol.
everyone thinks ooohh youre a doctor you must be swimming in cash but the reality is Uncle Sam and Aunt Sallie got me locked up
i mean theres a reason im still driving around my old subaru from med school.

all the people saying things like "what about the janitor making ends meat?" and the worlds smallest violin comments... dont compare apples to oranges. did he go to school/residency/fellowship into his 30s and then have >$200k in loans to pay back and then give 30% of his income to the government? im sure things can be difficult for him but i worked very hard to get to where i am and expect to be compensated accordingly. is there anything wrong with that?

ya sure nobody told us to go into this profession...but if we didn't, what would you do when you or or kid or parents got sick?
some days i get off work and think to myself why the hell am i doing this? then theres others where i feel really good about it.
when friends or family ask if they should go into medicine, i straight up tell them to only do it if they really love it. forget about the money or the prestige... it isnt how it used to be.
 
Three00ZeeX said:
they keep getting better and better dont they?

im an ER attending, first year out of residency.
its really sad that people outside of medicine just dont get it and they never will. im glad this article was put out there but im sure there will just be a ton of backlash as weve already seen.

just the other day i had mentioned to some friends how hard it is now to have to pay back my loans, then on top of that im getting taxed more than ever... basically they said "cry me a river" lol.
everyone thinks ooohh youre a doctor you must be swimming in cash but the reality is Uncle Sam and Aunt Sallie got me locked up
i mean theres a reason im still driving around my old subaru from med school.

all the people saying things like "what about the janitor making ends meat?" and the worlds smallest violin comments... dont compare apples to oranges. did he go to school/residency/fellowship into his 30s and then have >$200k in loans to pay back and then give 30% of his income to the government? im sure things can be difficult for him but i worked very hard to get to where i am and expect to be compensated accordingly. is there anything wrong with that?

ya sure nobody told us to go into this profession...but if we didn't, what would you do when you or or kid or parents got sick?
some days i get off work and think to myself why the hell am i doing this? then theres others where i feel really good about it.
when friends or family ask if they should go into medicine, i straight up tell them to only do it if they really love it. forget about the money or the prestige... it isnt how it used to be.
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QFT
 
Three00ZeeX said:
UTVOL23 said:
Lol loving the comments so far
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they keep getting better and better dont they?

im an ER attending, first year out of residency.
its really sad that people outside of medicine just dont get it and they never will. im glad this article was put out there but im sure there will just be a ton of backlash as weve already seen.

just the other day i had mentioned to some friends how hard it is now to have to pay back my loans, then on top of that im getting taxed more than ever... basically they said "cry me a river" lol.
everyone thinks ooohh youre a doctor you must be swimming in cash but the reality is Uncle Sam and Aunt Sallie got me locked up
i mean theres a reason im still driving around my old subaru from med school.

all the people saying things like "what about the janitor making ends meat?" and the worlds smallest violin comments... dont compare apples to oranges. did he go to school/residency/fellowship into his 30s and then have >$200k in loans to pay back and then give 30% of his income to the government? im sure things can be difficult for him but i worked very hard to get to where i am and expect to be compensated accordingly. is there anything wrong with that?

ya sure nobody told us to go into this profession...but if we didn't, what would you do when you or or kid or parents got sick?
some days i get off work and think to myself why the hell am i doing this? then theres others where i feel really good about it.
when friends or family ask if they should go into medicine, i straight up tell them to only do it if they really love it. forget about the money or the prestige... it isnt how it used to be.
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All I'm saying is why complain when u knew what u were going to have to go through beforehand
"Oh my loan is crazy and uncle Sam taxing me"
U dont need a degree to know that was gonna happen
And why u getting at the janitors
I believe they are called "environment service specialist" :lol:
 
why my mom picked dentist instead

i know people among both an they dentist are happier

anything specialized....

i know a dermatologist in greenwich life is great, anything better than MD
 
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nawghtyhare said:
 
 
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And why u getting at the janitors
I believe they are called "environment service specialist"
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DEAD 
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Went into college trying to be doctor. After my first chemistry course I decided that I wasn't about that life and that I had zero love for medicine.
Humanities ftw props to you STEM folk
 
nawghtyhare said:
All I'm saying is why complain when u knew what u were going to have to go through beforehand
"Oh my loan is crazy and uncle Sam taxing me"
U dont need a degree to know that was gonna happen
And why u getting at the janitors
I believe they are called "environment service specialist" :lol:
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Qft
 
nawghtyhare said:
All I'm saying is why complain when u knew what u were going to have to go through beforehand
"Oh my loan is crazy and uncle Sam taxing me"
U dont need a degree to know that was gonna happen
And why u getting at the janitors
I believe they are called "environment service specialist" :lol:
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Why complain? What profession are you in that you've never complained about it before?
 
My pops is a doctor and I'm going into pharmacy. I've always considered myself a science nerd and a people person but 70% of me is doing it for the money
 
bamez said:
just don't go into internal medicine or family practice.  Thats what the article is saying.  
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Pretty much but with cuts coming across the board it's gonna be interesting to see what happens in other fields.

I'm in historically one of the most satisfied fields, radiology, but applications are dropping and even top level programs didn't fill this past match.

There were times during intern year where I was angry to the point where it was ruining relationships. I'm happier now as a rads resident but the direction healthcare is heading (med school and COL going up with salaries going down) is going to lead to an even greater shortage of physicians.

I'm only in my 2nd year of residency and I probably wouldn't choose this path again. And I'm not even one of those who has 350K in loans, just a measly ~ 100K
 
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