"NO ONE MAN HAS IT HARDER THAN THE NEXT" This is a blanket statement that covers LIFE as a whole

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This "No one man has it harder than the next' is a statement I've made for a long time and is always highly debated when I make it.

I think not only do a lot of people feel opposite of how I feel, but I always have and always will welcome opinions and enjoy discussing them as they pertain to the quote.

Yesterday I used this quote in the Ferguson thread as a follow up to a post that was made that read.

Poster: "Like seriously..How is it being a white person in America?" Lol...It must be easy as ****.
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a-friend: "No one man has it harder than the next. Problems may be different, the struggle each man possesses may be different, but no man is without burden"

What the quote doesn't mean

It doesn't mean all men are equal.

It doesn't mean all men are born into the same situation.

What the quote does mean

This is a statement that is meant to encompass an entire beings life from beginning until end. It includes the hard times, the easy times, the bad times, the good times. EVERY SECOND from start to finish.

To take such a BIG statement and apply it to only one bad portion of a mans life  (ex:being discriminated against for being black) is to not grasp the quote or statement as a whole, but only as it pertains to a certain situation inside someones ENTIRE life.

Humans have this ability to adapt.

This adapting does not mean to accept things that are wrong as if they were right.

This adapting is a survival mechanism that is part of our DNA that allows us to continue to grow in spite of hardships or obstacles.

This ability to adapt is also what forms a persons Reality: reality being ones perception of how things are.

Once you've adapted (not accepted) certain things in order to survive, instantly you become a stronger individual preparing you to excel in whatever it is you put your mind to.

This is why such a high majority of Athletes, Musicians, Artists, Dancers, Writers have come from the absolute WORST situations you could fathom.

examples only not the norm>>>>>> At first sight of a rich Athlete, Musician, Artist, etc it would be easy to assume that these people have it easier than most. But what about the struggle they had before life rewarded them with a nice bank account. 

Just because your life is harder now or at any of its given points based of a COMPARISON to someone who has it easy right now be it because of Race, Money, or Power is not something that is FINITE. 

I believe life balances from beginning to end.

someone once said "God is never going to give you more than you can handle" (you can subsitute God with any thing, being or entity that works for you)
 
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On a case to case basis I'd say this is wrong and yeah I read the OP, specifically the part where it says what the quote really means.
 
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You mean to tell me the dude born in Sarasota to a wealthy family goes through the same amount of relative struggle as the dude who was born in to an Untouchable caste in India with birth defects?

Just because we're measuring on a grand scale, thus nullifying any kind of possible measure?

Come on b.
 
" I need a new..., for this black cloud to follow, cause while its over me its too hard to see tommorrow..."

The cloud does change

people deal with things differently so you're correct in some form

you may be a "god" in some situations/things but where you aren't can hurt

the equation gets balanced
 
Not even that. I'd say any person born with a physical or mental handicap is already living a lower quality of life than a person without. Not to mention ppl who get in to accidents later on that end up paralyzed.

Then of course there's every kid with cancer that won't see 16.
 
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You mean to tell me the dude born in Sarasota to a wealthy family goes through the same amount of relative struggle as the dude who was born in to an Untouchable caste in India with birth defects?

Just because we're measuring on a grand scale, thus nullifying any kind of possible measure?

Come on b.
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If op would have said, "No one man has it harder than HIS EQUAL(Generaly).." bizzaro self he would have been on to something

but im not the op so idk :lol:
 
Lets not forget some of our members, which DID have it harder than us

Breezylocks lost his life at such a young age
not to mention theres the possibility of other members who couldnt tell us

but I think op is on another subject
 
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Nah, it's just a bad statement to make, because it is inaccurate. Sure, nobody is without some type of hurdle....but some people have mountains, while others have mole hills. They're are people with no legs b. blind. deaf. No matter what I've gone through in life, somebody blind has it harder than me. Period. They can be the richest, most handsome blind person ever...still will never see a sunset. Making a statement like 'we all go through struggles, suck it up' is pigheaded. Clearly there are some struggles that weigh more than others.
 
Thanks for clarifying. I still disagree, though. Example... a newborn black child and white child are adopted by an Asian family. The kids/adults take the same route to success. They both eventually achieve the same level of success. Statistically the black kid/adult would've had to work almost twice as hard as his white brother to achieve the same level of success. Therefore, the black kid had it harder. That is statistically factual.
For those not aware, I'm not turning this into a race thread. Just sticking to the original discussion in the Ferguson thread.
 
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I am kinda trying to feel where you come from but the problem is when someone would usually use the phrase "no one man has it harder than the next" there is going to be some kind of specific related topic when using it. Making it completely invalid on every level.

Example from small to extreme

Ball player was born to a dad who's an NBA coach and has excellent physical attributes; Ball Player was born in a dysfunctional family and is 5'9 and not a tier 1 athlete. Yes you can in theory say they both have individual struggles and weaknesses that may hold them back. Those weaknesses & struggles still doesn't change the fact that option A has better physical attributes than option B and will surely get a much much larger set of opportunities to succeed in basketball.

Kid A is born rich, has the ability to get all the tutors in the world, has educated people around him at all times & is afforded the oppurtunity to go to much higher ranking schools due to financial status. Kid B is born poor, has a slight learning disability, nobody around him is really highly educated & because he's poor he's in a district where education isn't valued highly. Kid A is going to have it much easier in school, and learning simply due to having more wealth which equals more opportunity which equals more connections.

So outside of that thought process the only thing i could see you arguing is that two "struggles" can be completely different and play an equal amount of handicap in life. so to use the last example:

Kid A is rich & can buy most of the things he wants, but that status causes angst amongst his peers and he is alienated due to his wealth therefore not having many friends and developing self esteem issues from a young age.

Kid B is poor and not up to par in education, but he has manged to become popular amongst his peers and through that popularity creates good attributs in himself such as self confidence and leadership ability.

So in essense although structurally in society one kid would seem to have it easier in everyday life, emotionally that same kid may be lacking due to the same factors that helped him become successful in school. Which is hard to grasp because then it becomes a tug of war over which problem is worse, being in poverty and having small amounts of education or being emotionally unstable and not having the confidence that your peers have. That's not something we could really gauge because everybody's outlook on life is different and answers would vary between person.
 
so while i do somewhat think i see where your heading with this post, this statement and mindset can't be used when speaking on a topic that is clearly proven statistically to have discrepancies based on (Gender/Race/Religion/color)
 
letsgetit22 said:
Thanks for clarifying. I still disagree, though. Example... a newborn black child and white child are adopted by an Asian family. The kids/adults take the same route to success. They both eventually achieve the same level of success. Statistically the black kid/adult would've had to work almost twice as hard as his white brother to achieve the same level of success. Therefore, the black kid had it harder. That is statistically factual.
For those not aware, I'm not turning this into a race thread. Just sticking to the original discussion in the Ferguson thread.
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Black person has to work twice as hard to achieve same level of success..? 

Reference please
 
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I wish there was a different example of something like this (because this is going to ruffle feathers) but i legitimately think this is what OP is trying to say in the most simplified manor. We may look at one persons problem and wave it off as something small compared to ours, but the person on the other side dealing with that problem may see that problem as something just as detrimental to their well being.

So using this pic

blk people are legally discriminated against in all social factors vs white people are discriminated against in sexual/ physical factors. Who's to say one plight is more damaging tha the other (This is what I THINK OP is trying to get across)

Also the reason i debated this in the Ferguson thread is because you used this when speaking on blacks upbringing in this country against whites upbringing in this country, and after this quote i want to touch on that topic also.

Humans have this ability to adapt.
This adapting does not mean to accept things that are wrong as if they were right.
This adapting is a survival mechanism that is part of our DNA that allows us to continue to grow in spite of hardships or obstacles.

This ability to adapt is also what forms a persons Reality: reality being ones perception of how things are.
Once you've adapted (not accepted) certain things in order to survive, instantly you become a stronger individual preparing you to excel in whatever it is you put your mind to.

This is why such a high majority of Athletes, Musicians, Artists, Dancers, Writers have come from the absolute WORST situations you could fathom.
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I see many people who have similar views with you act as if by blacks proclaiming the various indifferences systematically between us & whites that we have somehow given up or not made the adaptions in order to keep ourselves afloat. We have to adapt everytime we walk outside & by what we wear, we have to adapt when speaking to an officer of the law, we have to adapt the music we listen too in certain areas etc etc.

What the other side of this argument is saying is that WE DONT WANNA ****** adapt... we would like to live our lives just as any other majority in this country can and not always have to worry and second guess things we do. so no we aren't saying kids give up on college because you get accepted at an extremely lower rate, we are saying kids be aware that to get this same oppurtunity your white counterpart got, you will have to be better in every aspect, work harder, and not even think about getting into any kind of trouble because you are given NO ROOM FOR FAILURE.

We are clearly aware that there is a social gap between blacks & whites and we are saying that having that gap prevalent in social constructs such as the prison system, law system, education system, job market, social expectancy's is not okay & that it has to be destroyed. It's not okay that other races get to walk regular while blacks half to walk on egg shells at all times.
 
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Well, I did say ALMOST. But I'll post links when I get home from work. Funny that you need sources for something that is common knowledge. I mean, it's not like you can't google the fact that blacks have to work harder to receive same level of success.
 
i dont agree with the statement. There are certain challenges, struggles, hard times that most will have to deal with...ie death of a loved one, financial struggles, difficulty raising a kid, etc.

The part that I disagree with the quote is that these will not be the same degree for each person...the person who loses both of his parents at a young age, loses a brother/sister due to a medical condition, or accident. Financial struggles of paying bills to losing your house, to not knowing where your next meal is going to come from, that definitely isn't something that everyone has to go through. Difficulty raising a kid could be due to financial struggles, or being a single parent, or not having other familial support.
 
letsgetit22 said:
Well, I did say ALMOST. But I'll post links when I get home from work. Funny that you need sources for something that is common knowledge. I mean, it's not like you can't google the fact that blacks have to work harder to receive same level of success.
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While I agree that blacks have to work harder in GENERAL to receive the same level of success, but twice as hard is a little much for me.

What I don't understand is how these discussions are only black and white (pun intended). Asians, hispanics not even in the discussion
 
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I believe life balances from beginning to end.
 
someone once said "God is never going to give you more than you can handle" (you can subsitute God with any thing, being or entity that works for you)
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That's crazy man. There are people who don't even live long enough for any balancing to occur. Kids who die of some crazy illness at 4 years old. There are the kids who are miserable their entire life then go on to end their life by suicide. When is it balanced out. You live in some magical utopia.
 
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