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NT degree all you need for hemis and yambz bruh
Is it worth getting a university degree anymore?
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A degree is obviously meaningful because you are being educated on many levels. THERE is no argument there. What‘s debateable is tuition and path. Let‘s get serious, going to Berkley or whatever for a math degree or art degree and being in debt may seem wise to some.
The logical sound thing is to always keep your head above water. Taking on debt because you believe the prestige in the degree will help you is what hurts most.
The logical sound thing is to always keep your head above water. Taking on debt because you believe the prestige in the degree will help you is what hurts most.
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Whoa, man. As a holder of a math degree, Im offended that you included a math degree in a bucket with an art degree. I went to a much less prestigious school than Berkeley, and I had great career choices after graduating, my skill set is in high demand and will continue to be in high demand in the future, and I make a good living. I would recommend a math degree to anyone with an analytical mind, you will have great options in the job market.
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Yes, degrees matter. They validate your skills to an employer. What screws people over is the attitude that just because you have a degree, you're guaranteed a job. When you're not. You have to make connections, do internships and gain experience before looking for a job. Also, the field in which you're majoring in matters. Some may have a passion for anthropology, but unless you're going to become a teacher, it's not an area I'd recommend to major in.
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If you're just gonna go to college to get in learn and get out then it's gonna be a bit of struggle to really land the perfect job. Networking is everything from what I've seen. College is great, but networking and knowing the right people will help you tremendously.
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It depends on the major. For me, a bachelors in Computer Science is more than enough. Getting a masters in CS is seen as a waste of time to some actually.
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O always laugh when people say "school shouldn't be about getting a job"
I can guarantee if school wasn't a pipeline into careers, college attendance would be halved in one semesters time
I can guarantee if school wasn't a pipeline into careers, college attendance would be halved in one semesters time
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Everyone that is talking about getting a degree in something that you're interested in and also in a field with many opportunities is absolutely correct. And it's also really important that you do as many internships that your schedule allows so that you can network and get some experience leading to an entry level position and a leg up on the competition.
Even if you don't decide to go to a University or college, look into a trade school and get that experience learning that trade. Always good to learn. Yeah I know I sound like an after school special or PSA but it's true.
Even if you don't decide to go to a University or college, look into a trade school and get that experience learning that trade. Always good to learn. Yeah I know I sound like an after school special or PSA but it's true.
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Yeah, getting a job is the number one reason I'm still in school.
However, I know better than to just go to school to go to school. You have to do other things as well. And many don't know that, or don't seek to do them.
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I don't agree. College is for everyone. Whether it's a two year, four year, or trade school. College is for everyone. Many make it without a degree, but I just disagree with that statement so much.
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Brah for some people it isn't. They know all they gotta do is a few minimum requirements and their network and family will take care of them
But it was hilarious to me when I used to get told to take it easy, like everybody got it as easy as them
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serious question: how does one network
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I personally think that if ur goal is to get rich, good connection is the biggest factor. U may be able to get those connections in school so going to school isn't a waste of time. Of course some fields require u to attend school, eg medical doctors
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Talk to your professors and counselors, join a club related to your field, internships, make friends with those you are majoring in the same field.
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It depends man.
There's no one size fits all.
I got a job as a graphic designer back before everybody and their cousin jumped in the game on mouthpiece and talent alone. I worked for a large company based out of New York, in their West Coast design center. I had no degree. All I had was a sketch book and an idea of how to use photoshop. I got in there and taught myself on the job and did alright. Compare that to one dude they hired who had a degree in Graphic Design and had no talent and no clue of how to design ****.
The way I got the job was working at Lowe's of all places and noticed a dude came and bought some supplies and the check said blah blah design on it. I started mouthpiecing him and got myself an interview.
The real deal is how good are you at selling yourself? How confident are you in your abilities on any job and how well can you perform. It's hunger man.
Maybe college can get your foot in the door. Maybe you can meet the right people. Maybe you'll learn something. But what's stopping you from doing that on your own if you really want it, college or not?
Does it help you stand out to have a degree on your resume? Hell yes, but it's not the end all be all. Who you know is key as well. But if you have a degree and an opportunity, but you can't add anything to the equation that helps the company you want to work for, then **** ain't gonna crack for you.
After 36 years... 18 in the professional world, I'm over it. I'm working on doing my own thing. I'll work a 9-5 until I get my **** going, but I'm not the corporate or work for someone else type.
Bottom line, college or not, find your passion and do that.
There's no one size fits all.
I got a job as a graphic designer back before everybody and their cousin jumped in the game on mouthpiece and talent alone. I worked for a large company based out of New York, in their West Coast design center. I had no degree. All I had was a sketch book and an idea of how to use photoshop. I got in there and taught myself on the job and did alright. Compare that to one dude they hired who had a degree in Graphic Design and had no talent and no clue of how to design ****.
The way I got the job was working at Lowe's of all places and noticed a dude came and bought some supplies and the check said blah blah design on it. I started mouthpiecing him and got myself an interview.
The real deal is how good are you at selling yourself? How confident are you in your abilities on any job and how well can you perform. It's hunger man.
Maybe college can get your foot in the door. Maybe you can meet the right people. Maybe you'll learn something. But what's stopping you from doing that on your own if you really want it, college or not?
Does it help you stand out to have a degree on your resume? Hell yes, but it's not the end all be all. Who you know is key as well. But if you have a degree and an opportunity, but you can't add anything to the equation that helps the company you want to work for, then **** ain't gonna crack for you.
After 36 years... 18 in the professional world, I'm over it. I'm working on doing my own thing. I'll work a 9-5 until I get my **** going, but I'm not the corporate or work for someone else type.
Bottom line, college or not, find your passion and do that.
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Getting your degree and then your masters will have you making no less than $75,000K annually. it is definitely worth it, OP. If your a rapper or athlete, then forego the degree and pursue those things..
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I know people with a Master's making less. Not a guarantee.
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A masters isn't needed for everything though. A masters can give you whuh? Like a 10,000 difference. If you good at what you do, rise up the levels and all that you can probably make what you would make with a masters, and save some money.
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Tell that to someone with an MSW.
I'm not anti-college across the board, but there are definitely professions where a college education is completely unnecessary.
It's a frustrating topic for me because one of my best friends got his BA in Music Performance-Guitar. He can't find a job with his degree (surprise surprise), so now he's thinking of going to grad school for Music Theory.
If your degree has no employability whatsoever, why the **** would you double-down?!
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It just sounds like something he's passionate in. He can make money doing that though. He just has to grind harder than the average person imo. There's always room for talent.
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He's definitely passionate when it comes to music, he's just not passionate when it comes to "grinding." He's more of the "I'm gonna smoke weed and play guitar in my underwear all day" type of person than the "I'm gonna try to find outlets for my talent on my days off so I don't have to be a barista for the rest of my life" type of person.
He's got the skills, but he just has terrible work ethic (belive me...I got him a job once) and can't put two and two together.
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Local user groups, conferences, seminars. You can also find "networking events" nearby. Also, it's important to develop good relationships with coworkers, since people are always changing jobs. Your coworker today could help you with an opportunity somewhere else tomorrow. Like someone said before, keep in contact with professors. a lot of mine had great contacts and we're always happy to help, and I always got the feeling that the majority of students didn't take advantage of that resource. Professors/advisers will help with internships too, and internships are the ultimate networking tool. Keep in contact with classmates too, they may land somewhere and help you get an interview at least. Also, I always try to talk to people I don't know or don't know well in social settings, you can make some great contacts this way.
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Yeah i think thats the dumbest thing ever. This one dude that has obtained his BS and MS in Computer Science in 2.5 yrs and is now obtaining his PhD said, "since when was college about getting a job?". Mind you dude is doing the bare minimum to get by and he has no plans of getting a job after his PhD, I just dont get it.
Yup I know people wih Master's working as associates in retail. A degree doesn't gaurantee anything if you dont apply yourself in other areas.
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this is so wrong its funny
