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I'll decline your offer to further this conversation. Meth delivered in this thread and got yall grasping for anything. Plus you lost credibility when the truth about these schools came out. All the nyc members on here and you thought you were the only one that went to one? You should've known that "we were all poor" lie wasn't gonna hold if it wasn't true.

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To address your other point:
For example, I have no idea what "agenda" Mr Marcus was referring to regarding the thread about the dad who threw his kid off the bridge, but there were several posters who claimed that had the dad been black, the outcome would have been different (ie. the cops would've shot him).  Maybe you can tell me, since you made a point about thread derailing in this thread, what exactly race has to do with a story about a dad who killed his kid?  
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I realize that, on its face, it may seem tempting to suggest that race has nothing to do with that issue - and that "bringing" it into play is like invoking Maslow's hammer.  

The problem is that this involves an unjust assumption about race and racism, common to anyone who's ever used the phrase "race card."  

If you notice that there are no people of color in "The Jetsons" future world, by making that point are you "making race a problem" - or was it already  a problem?  

In a segregated environment, like a Whites only lunch counter or even a contemporary lunchroom table at many schools, does a person of color "introduce" race and racism into the room simply by sitting down?   This frames race as a person of color's problem.  

Some men get upset whenever someone tends to question or problematize the sexist assumptions in our language.  (e.g. Responding to the use of words like "mankind" by suggesting "person kind")  They resent that sexism is being "made an issue" where it "doesn't belong."  

But isn't that an important step towards progress?  By demonstrating the ubiquity of sexism or, more broadly, social inequality?  

Personally, I think it depends on the intent.  Recently, someone reported a post in one of the sneaker forums where a user had talked about how they wanted their kicks straight from (insert stereotypical Asian name here.)  Would it be wrong of someone to interject there to say, "Hey, I know you were trying to make a joke there - but that's not cool."  

To me, trolling is malicious.  It's a negative form of manipulation.  It's provocation for the sake of provocation.  

Now, it's true that you could virtually always analyze current events through a wide array of lenses and pull the discussion into any number of different directions.  I understand that some would consider it selfish for the same people to try and take every thread in the same direction each time out, but isn't that more a question of "sharing?"  

There are users here whose personal pet peeve is "personal responsibility," however questionably one might choose to define that.  You could probably find responses in that same thread representing that angle, if you were so inclined.  What one person considers a natural and appropriate response is irritating to others, because they don't analyze things in that same way.  

Take gun violence as another example.  Is it inherently disrespectful for a mass shooting thread to include commentary on gun control, or is it a related issue?  To some people, it is NOT a related issue, because, in their minds, guns have nothing to do with gun violence.  They'd see it as an attempt to co-op a tragedy for political purposes.  Others consider it essential to LEARN from one tragedy to PREVENT another.  Who's right?  

People are angry right now, in particular, because of the disparate ways in which current events have been covered and discussed. 

Earlier, @Rexanglorum  made an interesting point about the presumed role of narratives in recent acts of violence, and the centrality of Al Sharpton and other activists in conservative talk radio discussions. 

For those keeping score at home, here's the conservative media's guide to recent events:

Aurora:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people kill people.

Newtown:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people kill people.

NYPD Killings:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people  liberal media narratives kill people. 

Charlie Hebdo:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people  Islam kills people. 

Trayvon Martin:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people  Black people kill themselves by frightening innocent armed people. 

Ferguson:  Guns don't kill people, crazy people  Black people kill Black people in Chicago. 

So, if that's a trend that you're familiar and upset with, you're likely to assess how any recent story's coverage stacks up.  

We benefit greatly from a diverse community.  Sometimes that can make threads challenging in that a discussion pulled in different directions simultaneously can be difficult to follow - but, in my experience, that's best treated through civility.  

We can create alternative threads or request that "sidebar" conversations take place in alternative locations.  We can hear people out - because no one is louder than someone who feels unheard.  We can use the block feature.  

Mr Marcus will be the first to acknowledge that he's been reprimanded and removed from certain threads for the way he's approached them.

As a matter of policy, I try to make sure that RESPECTFUL communication has the opportunity to thrive.  If someone is disrupting a thread in a disrespectful way, our team is charged with their removal.  Does the user have a habit of lighting a fuse and then running away?   Are they sincere?  

Those are the questions I concern myself with in these situations - not "is so and so bringing up race/sex/sexuality where it doesn't belong?" 
 
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I almost feel bad to laugh at the "cheerleader" reference.

Aren't Cheerleaders those who lack the "athletic" ability to play on the field, and are simply on the sidelines cheering for their team, or against the opposing team (even if they know which team is truly superior)?

I see some cheerleaders pop their heads in from time to time lol.

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Keep up the good work
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Remember that post I linked earlier?  Just a few replies up: http://niketalk.com/t/574642/wheres-ninjahood-vol-da/450#post_19356893

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derrty6232 said:
Can we get da black and asian unity back?

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Don't let this one poster divide yall or make you feel some type of way about Asians.

As hard as he tries, he's the one with the problem. So when he comes through trolling, just ignore dude.
 
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Did you really take the time to make this?

You that hurt? :lol:

Dudes want to run with the cheerleader reply now cuz you have nothing of worth to respond with. Keep in mind Meth aint doing nothing but replying with his words, pulling yall cards with your own post history, and now cuz it's directed at you don't like it. Meanwhile the best yall can do is rep each others posts in support :lol: :smh:

Grow up.
 
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I quoted an article regarding the specialized highschool exam in NYC that indicated that contrary to popular belief, there's a very large percentage of poor Asians in NYC.  YOU took that and generalized by saying that 9 out of 10 times, an Asian isn't as poor as a black person.  Maybe you have't interacted with many poor Asians in NYC so you have this perception that most Asians are rich or something.

As for your second question, please find a single post I've made in this thread or any other where I've said that all black people make excuses.  There's no doubt in my mind that racism still exists today, but for you to suggest that every single black person in this country has experienced 100% of the scenarios you've presented is clearly a generalization.  Everyone has their own personal experiences and faces racism in different ways.

That being said,  do you think that only black people face racism in this country?  When I tried to share my own personal experiences with racism in this country as an Asian, I'm ridiculed by the black posters here because they think I'm trying to compare the racism faced by Asians with the racism faced by blacks.  Who ever said they were synonymous?  Why can't they be mutually exclusive?  Does every black person in this country face the EXACT same racism?

You guys call me ignorant, yet time and time again, you refuse to even consider the viewpoint of another person. Instead, anyone who posts anything you don't agree with is automatically labeled a racist or NT's favorite term, a SWS.  While Method may not have answered my questions regarding education, for the sake of discussion, I even agreed to read the book he recommended.  If I recommended a book for you guys to read, would you?  I'm willing to bet the answer is no. To me, ignorance is the failure to look past your own preconceived notions and at least consider the opinions of others.

While my personal experiences as an Asian may not be the same as the experiences of a black person, is the racism or discrimination I've faced any less egregious?  You don't think I've been called racial slurs or called derogatory names?  You don't think I've been passed up for jobs where I was significantly more qualified than the white guy who got the job instead of me?

At least Method was civil enough to put some thought into his responses to me, unlike the rest of you who merely make accusations and snide remarks without offering anything of actual substance towards a discussion.
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:lol: but these 1 rep gibberish cohorts will be the first to hit the report button. Just look at Meth as the NT authority figure he is, like the police are in real life and practice the approach y'all preach for that.
 
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Keep thinking that man.
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It's not my fault ppl read your posts and feel that's your agenda.
You guys call me the troll, yet I have yet to see any of you other than Meth actually attempt to even RESPOND in an effort to engage in civil discussion.
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I think Meth already mentioned why some others don't bother to even respond to you.
Instead, because I'm Asian and offered an opinion some of you don't want to bother addressing, I'm automatically a racist and SWS that's trying to denigrate black people
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We all are tired of the gimmick in w/e form, we can identify that type of bull **** by now. Sorry if you got lumped in or fit the description.
Whether I disagree with someone's opinion or not, I'll at least have the courtesy to provide a thoughtful response.
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I never take that coded speak, bigotry, clown status garbage seriously nor would I give it a thoughtful response. I'm pretty sure I gave you my first and last thoughtful response when I wasn't wise to your gimmick in the other thread. After that I just read through more threads and identified the pattern.

You think just because I'm not black, I'm not capable of experiencing racism?
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No. I think because you're not black you shouldn't for a second try to pretend you know what it is to be black no matter if you want to bring up some similar struggle you feel is the same. I think as mentioned you should listen and learn if you really want to.

Who really said that though anyway? :nerd: Point out the poster that said you can't experience racism? Was it me? Link me to that post. If not you just made an egregious assumption cuz you feel some type of way. Don't reply to me in a general sort of way when I clearly don't apply. If you got somebody in mind, please address them.
Please... rather than blindly applauding every single post Meth makes, why don't you actually read what he wrote sometime:

"..it's hurtful to presume that you understand someone else's experience better than they - especially if you haven't made an honest and sincere effort to truly LISTEN and LEARN by acknowledging and respecting others' accounts of their own lived experience - and that cuts both ways."
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I'd seriously have to ask now, instead of trying to turn something around on me assuming I'm not reading these posts please identify where I ever presumed I know your experience more than you?

When have I ever talked as if I knew any Asian experience? Don't be mad cuz I'm caught up on to what YOU'RE doing in these threads over and over. I have no doubt by the time race thread season comes around on NT again you'll be right back at it like ppl forgot or possibly under a different SN.
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Master Zik said:
Don't let this one poster divide yall or make you feel some type of way about Asians.

As hard as he tries, he's the one with the problem. So when he comes through trolling, just ignore dude.
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HUH?
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The black and Asian unity aint gone anywhere bruh.

One monkey don't stop no show.
 
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This thread JUMPED! 
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@blco02, look at what you did man. I think it was a good thing you did, though. A huge, open, multi-topic discussion came out of it (and other things
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I've disagreed with you before, but from what I've seen, you've always been respectful my man. Don't change that aspect of your discussions, even when it's tough.
Just between us (and Panthers fans), the Panthers are getting that upset tonight! 
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EDIT: @Mr Marcus, I'm strictly talking about his civility in the discussions, not whether or not you or I agree with his opinion. That is all.
 
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Always been respectful? Take that bs back to S&T

Only person more disrespectful than him is that Russian kid on here
 
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