Lakers OFF-SEASON IS A WRAP

How Many Regular Season Games Do You Think Kobe Will Play This Year?

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I could live with Russell or Mudiay at # 2 at least you can justify it. Kristaps at # 2 is too high of a risk for where we currently are.

CP but here's the problem, we could be able to build a team off of Okafor's name before he's a bust. Far before we'd be able to build with Kristaps. Far more likely to get a FA who wants to play with Okafor than they do Kristaps in 2015 or 2016.
 
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No argument there. I know it would be a huge bust potential.

Bucks thought the same thing about Dirk tho........... :wink:



Lot of it comes down to the kid. Will he work? Does he kill for basketball? Is he a junkie?

I watched a vid of him playin, and I saw him dunk on a dude, guy went straight to the ground, on his ***, and kid reached down and picked him up. Helped the guy up off the floor. Good sport. .........

Hell with that, I woulda been happier if he stepped on the punk and kept ballin. That's what we need. :smokin :lol:
 
I don't man. That's a bold move drafting an overseas dream. Especially with projections. You always have to know your variables and keep them the same with each player ...only way you can get an unbiased judgment of the prospects. And that's ultimately why I would pick Okafor at #2 only because there's no bar you can measure Priziognisasjeidbs game to over here. With Okafor you can. He's been dominant since he's picked up a basketball over here in the U.S. Where it counts.
People like to bring up Jordan at #3 or us finding Kobe. But what they forget is we a bar to measure them at with natural homegrown basketball play.

Ultimately I think that's what the Lakers do if Towns goes #1. Especially in the position that franchise has been in the last 2 years. The organization as a whole cant really afford for this pick to busy especially when you have someone like Okafor sitting in front of you. And we weren't suppose to be in this position in the first place.
But it's just Mitch & Jim doing due diligence and I trust their judgment completely when it comes to drafting/prospects at least. That's about the only thing I trust them to do.

We've been linked to everybody like we thought we would. 1st it was Towns of the bat when his workouts leaked. 2nd was Mudiay and his outstanding talent then there were murmurs about we might choose him instead. Then DLo came rolling into town and then the reports were saying we might pick the guard over Okafor. Last Oak comes to workout and then it's 'Destined' that he's out guy at #2 ...now Priziroriro

The 25th can't come any sooner
 
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Not to hard to type K-R-I-S CP :lol:

Scares me that we take the next Al Jefferson because he's a "safer" option.

Mitch should take deal like I took in the mock thread trade back once or twice and maybe just end up with Okafor at #4 or #5

We were in the collecting assets business before we lucked up a couple weeks ago :lol:

Are we trying to make the playoffs next year? Serious question.
 
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This team isn't a quick fix. We were just in the grave 2 months ago. The playoffs are a reach for a team that technically only has like 6 players under contract right now and being a complete disaster on the court with a burnt out superstar.

This isn't gonna be a quick fix. I hope Mitch does the right thing. Oak is special. Not only of talent but of the mind and heart/will with his craft of basketball.

You draft Oak package the other 2 draft picks and move up.Sign Harris. Get as close to max as you have to get him. And then just pick up more one/2 year reclamation projects that have something to prove. Just like we did last year. Add a veteran or 2 for locker room and teaching purposes. And save the rest of our money.
Roll out next year with something like:

Clarkson/?
Kobe/Ellington/draft pick
Harris/Young
Randle/Boss
Oak/Sacre

Hire Nash on to the coaching staff. Hopefully he turns into Byrons offensive coordinator.
 
I will back whoever we draft because I trust our scouts and front office. We have not picked a bust that I can remember (looking back at previous drafts, we never picked a guy before someone who turned out to be good even with our late picks, except for complete surprises like Isiah Thomas). 

Whoever we pick up gets a 2 year grace period to show me something special. 
 
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This team isn't a quick fix. We were just in the grave 2 months ago. The playoffs are a reach for a team that technically only has like 6 players under contract right now and being a complete disaster on the court with a burnt out superstar.

This isn't gonna be a quick fix. I hope Mitch does the right thing. Oak is special. Not only of talent but of the mind and heart/will with his craft of basketball.

You draft Oak package the other 2 draft picks and move up.Sign Harris. Get as close to max as you have to get him. And then just pick up more one/2 year reclamation projects that have something to prove. Just like we did last year. Add a veteran or 2 for locker room and teaching purposes. And save the rest of our money.
Roll out next year with something like:

Clarkson/?
Kobe/Ellington/draft pick
Harris/Young
Randle/Boss
Oak/Sacre

Hire Nash on to the coaching staff. Hopefully he turns into Byrons offensive coordinator.
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I could see Steve Nash coaching.

Would be dope.
 
If we draft on just talent and potential, I'll be pissed.

So long as we draft on hard work and professionalism, I'll be fine.
 
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Yes, and that's exactly how guys like Oden & Beasley & Darius Miles & Telfair end up signing NBA contacts while guys like Fish & Dirk & Kobe end up having lucrative careers despite not getting hailed as a top 2.

That first batch had so much potential. That first batch had a ceiling that is limitless. Have you SEEN the highlights of that first batch?

Meanwhile, that second batch WORKED.

HARD.

If you want a steal, you draft on work ethic and professionalism; if you want a bust, you get mesmerized by highlights and the potential of raw talent.
 
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Yes, and that's exactly how guys like Oden & Beasley & Darius Miles & Telfair end up signing NBA contacts while guys like Fish & Dirk & Kobe end up having lucrative careers despite not getting hailed as a top 2.

That first batch had so much potential. That first batch had a ceiling that is limitless. Have you SEEN the highlights of that first batch?

Meanwhile, that second batch WORKED.

HARD.

If you want a steal, you draft on work ethic and professionalism; if you want a bust, you get mesmerized by highlights and the potential of raw talent.
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For me I knew Darius and Bassy were gonna be trash from jump and Oden ans Beas were picks 90% of GMs would have made they dominated in College.

Yet both have had things hold them back in the NBA Oden Physical and Beas mental.
 
That Porzingis workout video on YouTube is impressive, dude can shoot, dribble and has athleticism

I think rebounding and defending on the block will be an issue

He could me a more athletic Dirk or Nikoloz Tskitishvilli/Jan Vesely

Drafting him would be an outside the box risk at #2 but a shrewd move I wouldn't put past Mitch/Jim
 
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Not to hard to type K-R-I-S CP :lol:

Scares me that we take the next Al Jefferson because he's a "safer" option.

Mitch should take deal like I took in the mock thread trade back once or twice and maybe just end up with Okafor at #4 or #5

We were in the collecting assets business before we lucked up a couple weeks ago :lol:

Are we trying to make the playoffs next year? Serious question.
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But it's not just that Okafor is the "safer" pick, he is.

He's damn talented too.

That seems to be getting lost in the discussions when people say we should take other players.
 
What y'all think bout Chris Woods from UNLV at 27/34 ? Thats my lil kuzn so be nice lol...
 
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What y'all think bout Chris Woods from UNLV at 27/34 ? Thats my lil kuzn so be nice lol...
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Might be the wrong position for us.. Projected as a 4, unfortunately. But it's also pick 27, you basically just draft for talent at that point.

And he's on my list of about 5 guys who are realistic at 27 that we should look at.

Biggest problem is he has to be able to hit a 3 far more consistently. Shot 27% from 3. But from what I read he could develop into a good shooter. If he cleans up his mechanics.
 
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Might be the wrong position for us.. Projected as a 4, unfortunately. But it's also pick 27, you basically just draft for talent at that point.

And he's on my list of about 5 guys who are realistic at 27 that we should look at.

Biggest problem is he has to be able to hit a 3 far more consistently. Shot 27% from 3. But from what I read he could develop into a good shooter. If he cleans up his mechanics.
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Yea he need to gain lots of weight too he weigh 216 rt now at 6-11
 
So Jah is working out for Flip this week, hopefully he kills it.
 
Another reason Kristaps shouldn't be our pick is because he's a PF, he'll never be able to move down to the 3 (not quick enough, it'll be like Ryan Kelly at the 3) and never move up to the 5 (not strong enough). You don't draft somebody at Pick # 2 to slot them behind someone else who is still early 20s.
 
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Another reason Kristaps shouldn't be our pick is because he's a PF, he'll never be able to move down to the 3 (not quick enough, it'll be like Ryan Kelly at the 3) and never move up to the 5 (not strong enough). You don't draft somebody at Pick # 2 to slot them behind someone else who is still early 20s.
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He 7-1 at 19 u dont think his body will fill out in the next 2-3 years allowing him to play the 5?
 
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Essential1 said:
Another reason Kristaps shouldn't be our pick is because he's a PF, he'll never be able to move down to the 3 (not quick enough, it'll be like Ryan Kelly at the 3) and never move up to the 5 (not strong enough). You don't draft somebody at Pick # 2 to slot them behind someone else who is still early 20s.
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He 7-1 at 19 u dont think his body will fill out in the next 2-3 years allowing him to play the 5?
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So you're saying you draft someone at 2. Who plays the position of the guy we drafted last year at 7. And hope he fills out to maybe, hopefully be able to play the 5?

That's horrible decision making.


Even if he becomes the best player in the draft 5 years from now. The Lakers have no reason to take him.
 
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