Same Sex Marriage Is The Law Of the Land

Still waiting for that thought provoking original argument from the opposition Ricky.

Edge of my seat.

Apparently, after all these years there's a perfectly valid argument against gay marriage that we haven't yet heard.

Yeah. That's the ticket.

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Hey marriage "traditionalists" and agenda theorists, come out. I hear you guys got some new material.
 
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SneakerHeathen said:
Still waiting for that thought provoking original argument from the opposition Ricky.

Edge of my seat.

Apparently, after all these years there's a perfectly valid argument against gay marriage that we haven't yet heard.

Yeah. That's the ticket.

:nerd:

Hey marriage "traditionalists" and agenda theorists, come out. I hear you guys got some new material.
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SneakerHeathen said:
P.S. still not buying the feined devil's advocacy bit.
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i was on the first page saying "in your face" to those that are opposed to this

i've said SEVERAL times in this threead that i dont agree with their reasoning.

i even responding directly to YOU that i have no idea where they're trying to go but to just immediately shut down someone's opposing opinion is stupid as ****




but you still coming back trying to argue when nobody is arguing with you.

loosen up off the keys, my g... you got a good fambily, right (you've said you got a wife and couple kiddos, i think)?

no need to try and manufacture wins on the internet... you're doing well for yourself... i aint even trying to go there with you.
 
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i even responding directly to YOU that i have no idea where they're trying to go but to just immediately shut down someone's opposing opinion is stupid as ****
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The basis of the opposing opinion is that there are people who don't deserve to be afforded the same rights as the rest of society based solely on their sexual orientation.

For me, there isn't much to be gained by entertaining that thought process
 
PLVN said:
The basis of the opposing opinion is that there are people who don't deserve to be afforded the same rights as the rest of society based solely on their sexual orientation.

For me, there isn't much to be gained by entertaining that thought process
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Exactly. People with an opposing position on this are about as cerebral as racists.
 
PLVN said:
The basis of the opposing opinion is that there are people who don't deserve to be afforded the same rights as the rest of society based solely on their sexual orientation.

For me, there isn't much to be gained by entertaining that thought process
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Chopper said:
Exactly. People with an opposing position on this are about as cerebral as racists.
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so you dont think you can talk w/ a racists and gettt them to see your side and eventually change their minds?

people act like the country has been in favor of gay marriage for several decades.

look at the polls from just 10 years ago and see how it has changed. it's not like all the haters died off and were replaced by people more accepting..

people had dialogue, and was able to get to a conclusion based on hearing other people, explaining their positions, etc
 
Fontaine said:
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i was on the first page saying "in your face" to those that are opposed to this

i've said SEVERAL times in this threead that i dont agree with their reasoning.

i even responding directly to YOU that i have no idea where they're trying to go but to just immediately shut down someone's opposing opinion is stupid as ****




but you still coming back trying to argue when nobody is arguing with you.

loosen up off the keys, my g... you got a good fambily, right (you've said you got a wife and couple kiddos, i think)?

no need to try and manufacture wins on the internet... you're doing well for yourself... i aint even trying to go there with you.
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that was uh.....sharpshooter who mentioned he had a wife and two kids in this thread.


but yeah I got a couple kids and wifey as well (not married).


Difference between he and I is that I'm not sitting here hurling homophobic epithets. I truly am happy with my situation, and I truly want happiness for others.

Not this "I'm okay with their lifestyle choices so long as they don't damage my fragile idea of who should and shouldn't be allowed to marry".

I just don't get your whole devil's advocate thing, as if folks opposed to gay marriage haven't been voicing their opinion for the longest. Like you keeping the stage clear for them is going to bring some fresh unexplored debate.


It's all BS.
 
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And hey, I'll be the first one to defend a person's right to express their opinions/beliefs, so long as it's protected speech.


Hate speech is not protected, so.....yeah.


Stereotyping all of gay "culture" as "flames" is veiled hate speech.


Period.


The arguments against gay marriage have all been voiced, to ad nauseam.


We don't need to hear the same tired arguments for the nth time because they're invalid.


Whether it's a person's religion or personal theologies that lead them to be opposed to gay marriage, it's immaterial at this point.


Because marriage isn't limited to the Christian or Catholic experience. Or the Muslim experience, or the Jewish experience.


It's not reserved for people with a certain set of beliefs. It's for everyone.


Now folks may be opposed to gay couples marrying in a church or a synagogue.


But it's funny to me because people really do choose what to be critical of when it comes to religion. People are always compromising and going against the letter of God for their own personal agendas.

That's when bigotry, not religion is to blame. Folks want to hide behind religion as justification for their hatred, it's petty and it's plain as day.


So really, it's beyond me why anyone who has no problem with gay marriage would seriously give these folks any play.


Again, it's all BS.
 
lamekilla said:
GeorgeScorewell said:
Legalization next...:smokin
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To be honest, it probably is next. After the next election we might have over 10 states with recreational pot, including the entire West Coast.

In other places it seems like there is bipartisan support for it but the Republicans in power are fighting against it because it is part of their platform (or personal reasons)

I don't think it is too crazy to think by the turn of the decade, recreational marijuana will be legal in more states that it is not.

Only thing I can see stopping the wave is a Republican President at cracks down on it.

And it is reaching the point where the political cost of doing so might be to great, so all signs are point to :smokin
 
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FrankMatthews said:
Gay marraige circle jerk going on in here? All the regulars I see.

"I know everything so I don't need to hear anything from anyone unless it's something I already said." Always loved it when people do that. The ol "i'm right and you're wrong cause I said so" routine. By all means, resume the "intellectual" conversation, its says so much about you.
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Classy stuff.  Intellectual, too.  It's a good look.  Didn't really catch a respectful argument in there, but whatever.  The ol "i'm right and you're wrong cause I said so" routine, indeed.  

Relax.

As far as I can tell, nobody's denying your right to marry a woman or practice your preferred religion.  
 
RustyShackleford said:
To be honest, it probably is next. After the next election we might have over 10 states with recreational pot, including the entire West Coast.

In other places it seems like there is bipartisan support for it but the Republicans in power are fighting against it because it is part of their platform (or personal reasons)

I don't think it is too crazy to think by the turn of the decade, recreational marijuana will be legal in more states that it is not.

Only thing I can see stopping the wave is a Republican President at cracks down on it.

And it is reaching the point where the political cost of doing so might be to great, so all signs are point to :smokin
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Eh, I'm all for marijuana legalization but I don't think it's appropriate for us to sit here and be all like "well if gay people can marry, then why can't i buy weed".


I mean, face it, most of us who smoke are recreational users. We're not here in dire medicinal need because OTC prescription pain-killers often do more harm than good.

Nah, we just want to be able to light up without being persecuted over it, I get that. I feel that, I really do.


But I think it's selfish to in anyway equate marijuana use to a people's quest to love freely and marry.


IDK, just feels weird to see folks use this as some sort of segway to the marijuana legalization topic.


All in good time brethren, all in good time.
 
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Ahhhh just smoke that **** in ya own home or car and get the **** on, this ain't high school
 
SneakerHeathen said:
RustyShackleford said:
To be honest, it probably is next. After the next election we might have over 10 states with recreational pot, including the entire West Coast.

In other places it seems like there is bipartisan support for it but the Republicans in power are fighting against it because it is part of their platform (or personal reasons)

I don't think it is too crazy to think by the turn of the decade, recreational marijuana will be legal in more states that it is not.

Only thing I can see stopping the wave is a Republican President at cracks down on it.

And it is reaching the point where the political cost of doing so might be to great, so all signs are point to :smokin
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Eh, I'm all for marijuana legalization but I don't think it's appropriate for us to sit here and be all like "well if gay people can marry, then why can't i buy weed".


I mean, face it, most of us who smoke are recreational users. We're not here in dire medicinal need because OTC prescription pain-killers often do more harm than good.

Nah, we just want to be able to light up without being persecuted over it, I get that. I feel that, I really do.


But I think it's selfish to in anyway equate marijuana use to a people's quest to love freely and marry.


IDK, just feels weird to see folks use this as some sort of segway to the marijuana legalization topic.


All in good time brethren, all in good time.
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I wasn't try to equate the issues. And I don't think anything in my post even hinted that I was

And I most definitely didn't come close to making a statement along the lines of : "well if gay people can marry, then why can't i buy weed"

I was just commenting that it is probably the next major social issues that has steam behind it.

There are plenty of issues, some more important that others. But they don't make progress at the same rates, or get solved in order of importance.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
I wasn't try to equate it. And I don't think anything in my post even hinted that I was

I was just commenting that it is probably the next major social issues that has steam behind it.

There are plenty of issues, some more important that others. But they don't make progress at the same rates, or get solved in order of importance.
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Nah I was talmbout Scorewell and lamekilla, and really a lot of folks who have brought up marijuana legalization (not just on NT) after the gay marriage ruling.


I just happened to quote you whilst you were quoting them.


But yeah, it's definitely a keystone talking point going forward in the '16 election.


All I'm saying is that it's a bad look on us (rec marijuana smokers) to try to parlay anything from the gay marriage ruling.


Let's just be happy that this country is starting to move in the right direction, forward.
 
My girl just got back from DC and said she was blowing dodey legally

Let's make it legal to pine so I can start

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Based on the 2013 NHIS data [collected in 2013 from 34,557 adults aged 18 and over], 96.6% of adults identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as “something else[]” [0.2%,] stated “I don’t know the answer[]” [0.4%] or refused to provide an answer [0.6%].

My only problem with this movement is that is inflaming an entire nation when it only affects a very small part of the population.

The LGBT community needs some applause for making their situation into such a national issue.

In reality though, homosexuality is a deviant sexual preference. Our society is so media crazy that just because it is outside the norm it is a make or break outcry from supporters and detractors. In reality, apathy and blase acceptance is more what is needed.

Our media and country has an amazing ability to focus intensely on the minutia and gloss over the bigger picture. Our entire middle class basically being in poverty due to wealth and racial inequality affects over 80% of the population and yet we so easily dismiss progress about that. Or, worse we focus on singular incidents (like Michael Brown) and aim to put a band aid (fix bad cops) on a knife wound (inequal education and resources for minorities).
 
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