Woman killed by an Illegal Immigrant

mr highness · Jul 7, 2015

No thread about this?

San Francisco prosecutors Monday charged an illegal immigrant -- with a lengthy criminal record and deported five times -- with the murder of a young woman at a popular city pier.

Francisco Sanchez, a 45-year-old repeat drug offender released from jail April 15 after law enforcement officials declined to prosecute him, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday in the killing of Kathryn Steinle, 32.

The charge came hours after federal immigration officials fired back at San Francisco for putting Sanchez back on the street, saying "this terrible tragedy" could have been prevented if they had been notified of the suspect's release.

Sanchez, a Mexican national, had been in the custody of the San Francisco Sheriff's Department on a decade-old drug charge when he was released.

In a detailed statement released Monday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said that at the time it had turned over Sanchez to local law enforcement, it also had requested that they be kept apprised of any changes in his status -- and they weren't.

"We're not asking local law enforcement to do our job," ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen said in the statement. "All we're asking is that they notify us when a serious foreign national criminal offender is being released to the street so we can arrange to take custody."

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While saying the agency understands local law enforcement's "reticence" on the issue, Christensen said the bottom line is that if San Francisco authorities "had merely NOTIFIED ICE that they were about to release this individual into the community, ICE could have taken custody of him and had him removed from the country -- thus preventing this terrible tragedy."

The city did not notify ICE, she said, and, "As a result, an individual with a lengthy criminal history, who is now the suspect in a tragic murder case, was released onto the street rather than being turned over to ICE for deportation."

The circumstances surrounding Sanchez have reignited the debate over so-called sanctuary city policies.

As a sanctuary city, San Francisco like many other California cities often does not turn over illegal immigrants to federal officials.

However, Sanchez has a lengthy rap sheet.

According to ICE, he had been deported five times, most recently in 2009, and his record included seven prior felony convictions. ICE briefly had him in their custody after he completed a prison sentence in California, but turned him over to San Francisco on an outstanding warrant for a felony drug charge in late March. They lodged what's known as an "immigration detainer," which was not honored.

Freya Horne, an attorney for the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, told the Associated Press on Friday they had no authority to hold him.

Horne said federal detention orders are not a "legal basis" to hold someone, so Sanchez was released April 15. Horne said the city does not turn over people who are in the country illegally unless there's an active warrant for their arrest.

But a law enforcement official familiar with the issue told FoxNews.com there are "literally no jurisdictions" in the country where ICE gets a judicial warrant to request that local law enforcement notify them of a pending release.

The official called this claim by San Francisco "ridiculous."

Meanwhile, Sanchez reportedly has admitted in a jailhouse interview that he shot Steinle.

He told KGO-TV Sunday in a mix of Spanish and English that he found a gun wrapped inside a shirt while he was sitting on a bench at the pier and smoking a cigarette.

"So I picked it up and ... it started to fire on its own," Sanchez said, adding that he heard three shots go off.

Steinle was gunned down while out for an evening stroll at Pier 14 with her father and a family friend on Wednesday. Police said witnesses heard no argument or dispute before the shooting, suggesting it was a random attack.

A source familiar with the investigation told the San Francisco Chronicle that Sanchez said he was at the popular pier to shoot at sea lions, and discarded the firearm after realizing he had shot Steinle.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...point-finger-at-city-for-releasing-suspected/

Sorry but illegal immigrants of any race should not be in America. The suspect was already deported 5 times but still was able to come here. America has to incorporate a better fix of the immigration laws, system and apply more strict policies and enforcement. Illegal Aliens of any race are stealing jobs, helping businesses get richer, sending money to their homeland where their country of origin benefits. Democrats want to keep them for potential voting and it's absurd. I don't like Trump, but half of what he said we can all agree with but stories like these make him have a point. Even put more strict policies on international college students from Europe, Asia, Middle East because many of them overstay on their Visas.

If you want to immigrate here, you have to do it the fair way that most of our ancestors/grand parents did.

$tatus $ymbol · Jul 7, 2015

Homie I hope your ancestors/ grandparents were indigenous Americans. If not all that **** you spewing is null & void

cashbanks · Jul 7, 2015

This is stolen land first and foremost so that immigration **** is a joke to me personally.

The people that are most often considered illegal truthfully have more claim to this land than anyone.

But on topic, the local PD clearly dropped the ball here.

Sad, they should've been locked this piece of garbage up.

RIP sleazyy · Jul 7, 2015

Donald Trump still does not have a point :lol:

bendover · Jul 7, 2015

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Have a splendid day sir [emoji]128512[/emoji]

mr highness · Jul 7, 2015

gamble said:
Homie I hope your ancestors/ grandparents were indigenous Americans. If not all that **** you spewing is null & void

I'm Native American ancestry but I don't want no sympathy on the Native Side, I'm defending the American side.

CashBanks said:
This is stolen land first and foremost so that immigration **** is a joke to me personally.

The people that are most often considered illegal truthfully have more claim to this land than anyone.

But on topic, the local PD clearly dropped the ball here.

Sad, they should've been locked this piece of garbage up.

If you're going to refer to Mexico, which I did not exclusively target, then that's all you. But I want to share with you that the stolen land part is not 100% true. Mexico sold many of the west southern states to the U.S for millions. That was their fault. Technically, all the land of America was stolen by the white man (Majority Spaniards). So it was all stolen to begin with, it was just a matter of who will actually claim it. So the illegal truthfully have more claim is not true.

mr marcus · Jul 7, 2015

Mexicans have more claim on this land than Europeans

RustyShackleford · Jul 7, 2015

When natives Americans were getting killed by the white man, I bet they wanted them to go back to their own country too

Did they listen doe..........

Edit: **** it, It is Highness, I'm not even going to entertain his ignorance and Diet Racism

mr highness · Jul 7, 2015

RustyShackleford said:
When natives Americans were getting killed by the white man, I bet they wanted them to go back to their own country too

Did they listen doe..........

Edit: **** it, It is Highness, I'm not even going to entertain his ignorance and Diet Racism

To you it's racism Rusty, it's always racism to you man. I'm talking about nationalism. I never brought up any race in the beginning, I said all immigrants from all races. Nationalism =/= Race.

Mr Marcus said:
Mexicans have more claim on this land than Europeans

Not true, Mexicans have plentiful white (Spaniard) ancestry. Mexico sold land to the U.S for millions. Like I said, this land from this continent was all stolen in the first place, it was a matter of claiming at that point. These whites invaded, but at that point there was no complete established border.

kingkoopa · Jul 7, 2015

MR HIGHNESS said:
I'm Native American ancestry but I don't want no sympathy on the Native Side, I'm defending the American side.
If you're going to refer to Mexico, which I did not exclusively target, then that's all you. But I want to share with you that the stolen land part is not 100% true. Mexico sold many of the west southern states to the U.S for millions. That was their fault. Technically, all the land of America was stolen by the white man (Majority Spaniards). So it was all stolen to begin with, it was just a matter of who will actually claim it. So the illegal truthfully have more claim is not true.

I think he;s referring to Europeans

gil23 · Jul 7, 2015

MR HIGHNESS said:

No thread about this?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...point-finger-at-city-for-releasing-suspected/

Sorry but illegal immigrants of any race should not be in America. The suspect was already deported 5 times but still was able to come here. America has to incorporate a better fix of the immigration laws, system and apply more strict policies and enforcement. Illegal Aliens of any race are stealing jobs, helping businesses get richer, sending money to their homeland where their country of origin benefits. Democrats want to keep them for potential voting and it's absurd. I don't like Trump, but half of what he said we can all agree with but stories like these make him have a point. Even put more strict policies on international college students from Europe, Asia, Middle East because many of them overstay on their Visas.

If you want to immigrate here, you have to do it the fair way that most of our ancestors/grand parents did.

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deleted · Jul 7, 2015

So you want to condemn every member of a group for the transgressions of a few?

I guess that's par for the course with you tho

2oh6ridah · Jul 7, 2015

What if Donald Trump paid for him to shoot her...

shotsrangout · Jul 7, 2015

Jesus Christ. Meth just ban this *****

mr highness · Jul 7, 2015

2oh6RIDAH said:
What if Donald Trump paid for him to shoot her...

Pretty sure if he did, the suspect would have went full on rampage. And do you think any man would get paid just to degrade his own kind and get paid in jail? That's irrational thinking on your part. Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

PLVN said:
So you want to condemn every member of a group for the transgressions of a few?

I guess that's par for the course with you tho

How do you know it's only a few though? Just because the media reports it once don't mean it never happens. It's just beginning to be an issue today, especially the illegal immigrant subject.

ShotsRangOut said:
Jesus Christ. Meth just ban this *****

Why? Because you don't agree with what I say? There goes your irrational mind man. Banning someone because he has a different opinion? And I ain't even trolling, not racism, not anything. You're trolling man with such a ridiculous comment.

Chopper · Jul 7, 2015

"It's not even your land..."

I guess we should all go back to Africa where we came from.

We got some real history buffs in this thread.

airblaster503 · Jul 7, 2015

Who cares about claims on the land though. Point is the dude shouldn't even have been in the country in the first place. They should put a tracking device in people that are criminals caught here illegally and deported, or find some other way to track them if they come back over the border.

mplsdunk · Jul 7, 2015

How many woman were killed today by U.S. Citizens? Stop fear mongering and believing the media.

rillo561 · Jul 7, 2015

Wake me up when the companies and corporations get into trouble for hiring illegals. Until then it's nothing but fear mongering.

mr highness · Jul 7, 2015

MPLSdunk said:
How many woman were killed today by U.S. Citizens? Stop fear mongering and believing the media.

A woman in Hollywood CA was killed today, suspect still at large, described as a black dude. Point is, do we want to add more murders today? You do realize some criminals escape their home land to live in the U.S right to start their lives over?

Chopper said:
"It's not even your land..."

I guess we should all go back to Africa where we came from.

We got some real history buffs in this thread.

Who said that? Who is "your"? Because I'm speaking in National terms, not race terms.

airblaster503 said:
Who cares about claims on the land though. Point is the dude shouldn't even have been in the country in the first place. They should put a tracking device in people that are criminals caught here illegally and deported, or find some other way to track them if they come back over the border.

That's what I'm saying, and all these people want to bring up "race" and "history" to use as a defense mechanism.

rillo561 said:
Wake me up when the companies and corporations get into trouble for hiring illegals. Until then it's nothing but fear mongering.

This is what I also want. I want companies to pay the consequences, fined, suspended, etc, but they never do, they're always getting away, and even better, escaping plentiful taxes.

Mark Antony · Jul 7, 2015

Typed some **** up. Meh.

fontaine · Jul 7, 2015

So famb wants to solve an insolvable problem...

By....

Only pointing out when black/Brown people are the problem.

:lol:

sfc415 · Jul 7, 2015

I fail to see the connection between immigrating here illegaly and causing crime rates to go up (because obviously there isn't one). American born citizens are some of the most violent people on earth, but you have completely brainless people like OP pointing the finger at illegal immigrants :lol:

I'm all for deporting illegal immigrants to prevent crime if we deport all the crazy and racist white people in this country too, before they shoot up more schools and burn more black churches. Will that happen? No? Then shut the hell up

Methodical Management · Jul 7, 2015

MR HIGHNESS said:
If you want to immigrate here, you have to do it the fair way that most of our ancestors/grand parents did.

Genocide and land theft is fair?

Being brought here in chains is fair?

The Chinese Exclusion Act is fair?

Racist national origins quotas are fair?

One person's actions are hardly representative. Classic dog-whistle politics.

http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/06...ly-racist-anti-mexican-comments-into-context/

gil23 · Jul 7, 2015

Methodical Management said:
Genocide and land theft is fair?
Being brought here in chains is fair?
The Chinese Exclusion Act is fair?
Racist national origins quotas are fair?

One person's actions are hardly representative. Classic dog-whistle politics.

http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/06...ly-racist-anti-mexican-comments-into-context/

good read, thanks

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