Bernie Sanders can win

RustyShackleford said:
zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
^^^ I'm voting for Hillary, I like Bernie, but I don't want him to get the nomination

Influence the public discussion, sure.

But the next election to too important for us the left to send up the candidate with the a worst chance of winning the general election.
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why don't you think he can win it all?
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Nope

Any of the non extremest GOP candidate would probably do better with centrist and undecided voters than Bernie would
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This is the way I see it, I don't want Hillary in office and I sure as hell don't want a Republican. Bernie is the only option for me, one that I'm happy is there. Labor Unions are backing him and so am I. If you're voting for Hillary, you might as well vote for a republican.
 
zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
^^^ I'm voting for Hillary, I like Bernie, but I don't want him to get the nomination

Influence the public discussion, sure.

But the next election to too important for us the left to send up the candidate with the a worst chance of winning the general election.
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why don't you think he can win it all?
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Nope

Any of the non extremest GOP candidate would probably do better with centrist and undecided voters than Bernie would
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This is the way I see it, I don't want Hillary in office and I sure as hell don't want a Republican. Bernie is the only option for me, one that I'm happy is there. Labor Unions are backing him and so am I. If you're voting for Hillary, you might as well vote for a republican.
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How?

She was one of the most Liberal senators in Congress during her time there. SOme of her positions her left of Obama in 2008.

IMO, because ole girl is a pragmatist she gets labeled as a centrist by progressives. :smh:

Hillary is a liberal, and on the left

A democratic president has the chance to flip SOCTUS, which is huge, and Sanders supports talking it is either Bernie or I'm not voting. :smh:
 
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ERACISM said:
Hillary voted in favor of every war. She's a paid off war schill.
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Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

All voted for the war.

But lets forget the Bush administration lied to the nation about the evidence they had
 
RustyShackleford said:
zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
^^^ I'm voting for Hillary, I like Bernie, but I don't want him to get the nomination

Influence the public discussion, sure.

But the next election to too important for us the left to send up the candidate with the a worst chance of winning the general election.
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why don't you think he can win it all?
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Nope

Any of the non extremest GOP candidate would probably do better with centrist and undecided voters than Bernie would
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This is the way I see it, I don't want Hillary in office and I sure as hell don't want a Republican. Bernie is the only option for me, one that I'm happy is there. Labor Unions are backing him and so am I. If you're voting for Hillary, you might as well vote for a republican.
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How?

She was one of the most Liberal senators in Congress during her time there. SOme of her positions her left of Obama in 2008.

IMO, because ole girl is a pragmatist she gets labeled as a centrist by progressives. :smh:

Hillary is a liberal, and on the left

A democratic president has the chance to flip SOCTUS, which is huge, and Sanders supports talking it is either Bernie or I'm not voting.:smh:
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what?

Bernie would be better for labor unions. He did a great job in Vermont with helping the labor unions.

Hillary voted yes on the TPP, Patriot Act, and every war, Benghazi, and email scandal. Can't back her and I won't.
 
RustyShackleford said:
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But lets not act like she is the same as the **** show GOP
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Let's not act like she's the best choice for this country.

Is it going to be hard for Bernie to take her on? Yes.

At the end of the day, I feel he's the best choice which is why I will support Bernie,
 
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zapatohead408 said:
RustyShackleford said:
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But lets not act like she is the same as the **** show GOP
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Let's not act like she's the best choice for this country.

Is it going to be hard for Bernie to take her on? Yes.

At the end of the day, I feel he's the best choice which is why I will support Bernie, the man I feel is the best choice for this country.
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And I feel the best choice for this country is the liberal who has the great shot at winning in 2016 and skilled enough to not shoot herself in the foot so she can get a second term, that way SCOTUS can finally flip progressive

-Bill Clinton was a centrist and they gave him hell

-Obama was a progressive and they made him out to be the devil. Even when he was willing to compromise

-Sanders is a socialist, they will not work with him on a damb thing. If he compromises, he will look like a traitor to progressives (even though that would be the smart thing). And If he refuses to budge, then he gets painted as the problem and he is dead in the water for a second term.

I'm being reasonable in my expectation of what a democratic liberal can do if they get in power in 2017 with the House is still controlled by the GOP. Preserving the progress Obama has made and flipping SCOTUS might be all that could be done

So I want the person that has the best chance of getting 8 years. Clinton I see can do that. Sanders barely got a shot at getting one.

This is me being pragmatic instead of idealistic.

I JUST THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR AMERICA IS TO NOT HAVE A GOP PRESIDENT.

In a perfect world I rather have Bernie with a cooperative Congress. But that's not gonna happen.
 
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Slighted said:
Obama is a progressive?
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Relative to Bill, yes

Up until he became president in 2008, yes.

As president, I would still say, yes

Being a progressive doesn't mean you fall on the far left on every issue. It is imo, a philosophy of governing

But he said openly he wouldn't govern strictly on the left, and that he will look for compromises to get things done.
 
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Jimmy Carter should endorse Bernie

Jimmy on Bernie's side, Bill on Hillary's side, then the battle would be even more heated 
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Bernie Sanders is the like Vegata

We may love him, just he gonna hold the "L" in the end.

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RustyShackleford said:
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I'm not disagreeing that the Clinton campaign is a well oiled machine just as it was in '08, just saying you can't often predict politics. Once debates start happening and Bernie starts getting more msn exposure, I'm banking on a lot of Libs having second thoughts on Hillary...

I just wish more Jewish lobbying groups weren't so in bed with the right,Bernie would be their guy :lol:. He's in some cases just as pro-Israel as many on the right
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Democrats are not only liberals. Democrats don't have to answer to progressives like the GOP has to the Tea Party.

And Hillary is has a much better chance in the general election than Sanders.

I'm not willing to risk sending up an idealist that will likely not win, when there is so much on the line.

This whole Bernie thing feels like Howard Dean 2.0.
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I'm not disputing her chances in the general election. Also she has about a 90% chance at winning the nomination right now imo :lol:,just saying that Bernie could make things interesting and the longer he stays in the race and gains support the more likely a chance he has of pushing her platform even more to the left.

Sidenote in relation to the last few pages*Obama's become more of a moderate in office than anything. I wouldn't necessarily call all his policies progressive as a result of all the time he wasted trying out bipartisanship for a good while to appease the GOP while getting almost nothing in return :smh:
 
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nomnomdestroy said:
 
Portland rally from tonight... 20k in attendance 
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That is really impressive, good for him. Looks like he's got a movement brewing.

Can anyone speak as to how he feels about foreign policy? I'm talking general facts, his website seems to have nothing on the topic.
 
From tonight 
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 (guest speech by Sarah Silverman)
 
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