RIP New York Hip-Hop? (Need Some Feedback)

Only in this thread...is monetizing mixtapes a bad idea :lol:. Mixtapes = low cost. They are getting returns on a low cost product.

The thought on mixtapes USED to be, flood the streets with your mixtapes. Build up fan base. Recoup the profits later on tours and songs etc from said mixtapes. Use fan base from mixtapes & singles to release album when ready. Almost like giving testers, and have em come back for your full course meal.

Now, people are paying for thug's "testers" multiple times a year.....at a rate that is = to/more than some established artists full course meals. I mean, imagine if Future sold...Monster, Beast Mode & 56 nights back to back to back.

Thug is also currently on the #33 song in the country right now (and rising)......."No Limit" by usher. He's doing alright. Could be better though.

I will agree that the label isn't yet confident in a full length thug project. He doesn't have a mixtape that you can hold up and say...THIS is the project you should check. Just loose singles here and there. This is all part of the process:

-gauge interest
-monetize on a low cost project
-build fanbase.

Business wise, it's smart as hell.

Only because producers are getting short changed these days.

A lot of mixtapes are getting spins and streamed as albums, but the producer is only getting the upfront money and some aren't even getting that. They're just getting a look and are happy to get placement.

Dudes are getting radio and touring off it.
 
I ain't know thug album sales was such a serious topic :lol: , ain't expect him to sell that much so around 40k total sounds bout right
 
It's cause his fans would have you believing he's as popular as Drake, and if you don't feel him, you "just don't understand his genius" and "Lyor has it in for him".
 
They don't even promote these "albums". :lol:


Putting out all these tapes as albums means nothing when you're signed to somebody else's label. Thug ain't business savy at all. His label is playing him.
 
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ny hip hop been dead since snoop stomped through the skyline... anything above VA is lackin' has been since 2000 (well except for philly) nyc get props being originators but innovators and chart makers nah not since def jam 2000 survival of the illest/ hard knock life days...every nyc artist since then had to either had to  have a southern or west coast producer just to get recognition....
 
ny hip hop been dead since snoop stomped through the skyline... anything above VA is lackin' has been since 2000 (well except for philly) nyc get props being originators but innovators and chart makers nah not since def jam 2000 survival of the illest/ hard knock life days...every nyc artist since then had to either had to  have a southern or west coast producer just to get recognition....
you must be new to rap or somethin. read this topic for plenty of artists
 
ny hip hop been dead since snoop stomped through the skyline... anything above VA is lackin' has been since 2000 (well except for philly) nyc get props being originators but innovators and chart makers nah not since def jam 2000 survival of the illest/ hard knock life days...every nyc artist since then had to either had to  have a southern or west coast producer just to get recognition....

Im from Philly & even i dont agree that Philly currently has more talent than NY right now

You must not listen to the newer guys that aren't on the radio
 
ny hip hop been dead since snoop stomped through the skyline... anything above VA is lackin' has been since 2000 (well except for philly) nyc get props being originators but innovators and chart makers nah not since def jam 2000 survival of the illest/ hard knock life days...every nyc artist since then had to either had to  have a southern or west coast producer just to get recognition....

Since 2000? you know that's 16 years ago right? You're really saying they haven't had anything dope and original in 16 years????



:rofl:
 
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since 2000 huh....... :lol:

anyway Al Be al ain't from NYC but dude is Tristate & has a few dope tracks out.


I know Al be Al from the Kenny Britt situation.

See he's been still grinding since he's gotten home. Will peep later.
 


my new single off my "debut" project entitled "the pr3quel" dropping on 9/11... im a nyc artist and i do it for the culture. I sound like myself and im proud of my work,.. take a listen if you like leave feedback, if you hate it leave feedback... 
 
please ignore the YM falloff but Desiigner is legitimately proving that he may not be going anywhere for awhile
 
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Desiigner won't flourish until the style of beats he hops on changes. His voice naturally sounds like Futures but he fails when he tries to imitate Futures cadence and beat choices.

He'll be a problem in 3 years when he's 21 and more experienced and the beats he's being given hopefully changes.

Or we could never hear of him after December
 
Don't see him moving anytime soon based off melodies alone.... i have no clue how that wasn't a Pusha verse on there instead of Tyga
 
He's on GOOD music, Kanye is gonna tack him on every song and make you hear him whether you like it or not
 
Just heard Desiigner got booked for a loaded tone (in NYC) and some oxys.....

I can't stand the lil *****, but not like this mane :smh:. Smh
 
Up and coming NY rappers always get taken by the law or the streets before their time to shine
 
please ignore the YM falloff but Desiigner is legitimately proving that he may not be going anywhere for awhile

Nah, he still trash. He still tryna bite Future. Sounds like a fake version of Rotation.


The legal **** is unfortunate though.
 
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